Are you on the list?

where can i read this list?

I think every free thinker is probably on the list...

I haven't been on a plane in 6 months or so. I've written extensively about how much I detest Bush and his policies in the meantime and am curious to learn whether or not big brother has been watching but I doubt it. I will say though, that if I am now on the list it will give me more than a little satisfaction that someone is taking notice.

Here's what I think we should do though. We should all do our best to get on the list because if we're ALL on the list then who could they watch? Furthermore, we should cc the Dept of Homeland Security a copy of all the emails we send. If they really want to surveil americans we should do all in our power to help them. Flood 'em with domestic intelligence, that'll fix their wagons.

hold up someone to be a terrorist
useful to justify 'killing
this is how some people mean for the term freedom

freedom of deleting your enemy
but your enemy is not necessarily the enemy of the country
at least initially
subsequently become the enemy of the country ...

Salut et Fraternité

Gee, After some of the negitive things I've posted about Bush here on current, I'm sure I'm on the no fly list. I'm surprised they don't have a secret service agent stationed in my front yard, watching me 24/7.

If their list is a list of Americans who objects to a 'decider' who decides to ignore the Constitution, tries to retroactively re-write the 'Rule of Law' using politics as their guide, I hope the list is growing! More and more people should be speaking out before it's too late.

Many people don't believe it can happen. They are the same ones who didn't believe the facts before we went into Iraq, using fixed facts and forged documents as our guide. They have been proven wrong. What will it take for every American to stand up and get their names on the list. Those of us who are getting our news elsewhere know we should be afraid. Not of a list, but a policy which runs contrary to what ‘We the People’ believe. I believe in America. I believe in Democrats and Republicans. It’s all right to be different. It’s not all right to break the law and think you can change it after you do.

What are we teaching our children. our leaders of tomorrow? It’s all right if you aren’t going to be held accountable? If they get away with it, it’s okay to do it? I think not!

If I'm not mistaken you cannot read the list. It is restricted information, but if you get searched at an airport just badger the people there long enough and sometimes they'll tell you it's because you're on this list. Otherwise good luck finding out who's on the list and I'm sure John Stewart is.

I think it may be like if you look to see if you have an FBI file; if you don't, they'll start one on you. And besides, if Mandela was on there, I think I be proud to be too.

Edit: Please tell me some of the names were jokes... Kennedy?! Saddam and the 9/11 hijackers!? A six year old?!! And obviously more than a few people who have been/still are in the military?! Please tell me this was a bad joke...

I wouldn't be shocked if everyone on this site are on this list. Because we are on this site.
So watch what you say.
Big Brothers listening in.

ivxx: F THAT.

I'll NEVER screen what I say just because some tiny-dicked fat white guy is reading/listening.

I've got nothing to hide, and NOTHING to fear.

I'm with onechance.
I will not be silenced by a "Mafioso" administration that doesn't give a damn about the people it's supposed to serve.
Be the bully. I will not stop.

The lists didn't end when J. Edgar died, they just got longer.

So that's why I'm serched everytime I fly...

Still. I'll not be silenced either...not till they erase me...then I'll only haunt them anyway,with pleasure...

I have no fear of those who profess to serve this country with dignity and honor, but instead are embroiled in the insidious, inexcusable and unforgivable blatant betrayal of the 'Public Trust'...

I am sure that I am "on the list". I ALWAYS get the thorough search @ the airport. When I check my bag, it has one of those little cards in it letting you know that they have searched it. ....."War is over... if you want it"...John Lennon

I wouldn't be surprised if I'm on the list ... what with my ties to the Middle East (mainly Egypt, Syria and Turkey).

Wow even my daughter could be on this list...she's 3!

"The TSC cannot reveal whether a particular person is in the TSDB. The TSDB remains an effective tool in the government’s counterterrorism efforts because its contents are not disclosed. If TSC revealed who was in the TSDB, terrorist organizations would be able to circumvent the purpose of the terrorist watchlist by determining in advance which of their members are likely to be questioned or detained."

Bullshit. Bullshitbullshitbullshit.

On edit: Further:

"The Terrorist Screening Center (TSC) works with the Department of Homeland Security ..." DHS, the very department that posted, on the internet, explicit directions for making a nuclear bomb. Who, when pressed about such, offered simply "A person couldn't actually *make* a bomb from those instructions."

The DHS, won't you sleep better tonight knowing they're keeping us safe?

http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/counterrorism/faqs.htm

Dubya's listening. Use big words.

If you aren't on the list you aren't doing your job. Congratulations to those that get searched at the airport. I hope I'm on it, and I intend to work harder so my name will be in bold letters. So far they haven't figured a way to read our minds. If they could I'd be jailed for wishing Cheney's damned batteries would short out.

Those remaining battering cells plus Bush's few remaining brain cells.

I would not be surprised if everyone on current is on the list.

There may be future plans for those who don't make the list. Here is a post I found several months ago:

Air safety proposal: shock-bracelets controlled by flight attendants
Posted by Cory Doctorow, March 20, 2008 5:14 PM | permalink

Lamperd, a "firearm training system" company, has patented a bracelet that delivers debilitating shocks when remotely triggered. Their killer app for this is aviation safety: they're proposing that the TSA could force everyone who flies to wear one of these and then flight-attendants could zap us into a stupor if we turn out to be Al Quaeda.

A method of providing air travel security for passengers traveling via an aircraft comprises situating a remotely activatable electric shock device on each of the passengers in position to deliver a disabling electrical shock when activated; and arming the electric shock devices for subsequent selective activation by a selectively operable remote control disposed within the aircraft. The remotely activatable electric shock devices each have activation circuitry responsive to the activating signal transmitted from the selectively operable remote control means. The activated electric shock device is operable to deliver the disabling electrical shock to that passenger.

I don't fly so it didn't actually frighten me, but some individuals fly regularly. I don't think people would tolerate wearing a shock bracelet, but they let them undress them with a machine? They take off their shoes? I guess if they scare us enough, people will accept anything.

I have a friend that moved to Australia. He's a very liberal lawyer. A few months ago he came back to the States to visit his mother. He was detained for several hours. He thought that it was just an inept security service who couldn't distinguish him from a terrorist.

I wonder if there's a way for people who've been detained to find each other and protest as a group.

I'll be flying in a month or so. I don't think I'm that important, but it still makes me wonder . . .

yep...if you don't practice anonymity on the internet and advocate for any of the following things (and probably a lot more) then you are most definitely on their lists:
1. Human Rights -
2. Corporate Accountability -
3. Peace -
4. The Constitution & Bill of Rights (which obviously includes but is not limited to...Freedom of Speech, Freedom of an Independent Press, etc.) -
5. Truth and/or Transparency in Government -

just to name a few...
no..you wont find that in any public documentation but we all know it to be true...

The question i must ask you all now is simply.."what is THEIR definition of "terrorism"? Is it what's suppose to scare us? ....OR is it actually what scares them?

fear = ego
<3 > ego

Thanks for the heads-up, Bret. Looks like the USA is trying to break another record. Among some of our infamous figures stand the growing percentage of our populous behind bars - jailed, as it were. Now we're racing to see how many of us can be put onto a terrorist list - leading the way for other nations to follow in kind. NAUGHT. How undemocratic are we further working to be? Question: under what criteria is one a candidate for the terrorist list? Answer from the FBI site Bret noted above: "only individuals who are known or appropriately suspected to be or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism are included." How's that for clarity!

You can't get into the club if you're not on the list......

My PATRIOT ACT is the Bill of Rights... therefore, probably on the list. Viva la Revolución!

We are being tortured at night. My whole life has been ruined by these uneducated, spiritually dysfunctional "people" in charge of our government locally and nationally. This includes the utility companies, local law enforcement and fire departments and religious leaders who want to control everything: the new "Homeland security" effort. It all started with the nuclear industry promoters trying to put a "low-level" radioactive dump one mile from my house. The Executive Director of the Maine "LOW-LEVEL" Radioactive Waste Authority, John Williams, admitted that the dump would collapse on itself in 500 years. Pat Dostie, Maine State Nuclear Inspector said the contents of the dump would include Carbon-14, half-life of 5,730 years; Technetium-99 half-life of 213,000 years; Iodine-129 half-life of 15.9 million years; Plutonium-239 half-life of 24,110 years and Nickel-59 half-life of 80,000 years. These people are sick, disgusting morons, most of them calling themselves "Christians", who have no regard for life or anything good. They just want money and power.

I've written my senators, congressman and governor so I'm probably on "the list" because anyone who is concerned with what's going on with the government is obviously a terrorist and I've actually traveled outside the United State...SCARYYYY!!!