To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them
In Hersh’s most recent article, he reports that this meeting occurred in the wake of the overblown incident in the Strait of Hormuz, when a U.S. carrier almost shot at a few small Iranian speedboats. The “meeting took place in the Vice-President’s office. ‘The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,’” according to one of Hersh’s sources.
During the journalism conference event, I asked Hersh specifically about this meeting and if he could elaborate on what occurred. Hersh explained that, during the meeting in Cheney’s office, an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them. This idea, intended to provoke an Iran war, was ultimately rejected:
HERSH: There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.
Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. That’s the kind of — that’s the level of stuff we’re talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected.
Hersh argued that one of the things the Bush administration learned during the encounter in the Strait of Hormuz was that, “if you get the right incident, the American public will support” it.
“Look, is it high school? Yeah,” Hersh said. “Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We’re playing, you know, who’s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran.”
Watch it.
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- Vierotchka
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It is easy for Cheney to deal with bloodshed abstractly because he has never been to war.
Our soldiers need to know the dark motives/methods of the men who give them orders. It will take them refusing to go on their 2nd, 3rd or 4th tours for the "war on terror" to end.-
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- RyanBWylie
- 5 months ago
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THAT SON OF A BITCH IS NUTS!!
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People seem to think that US citizens being lied to, or mislead in some way, into a war by our own gov't is a new concept. A concept started by GWB in regards to Iraq. Unfortunately it is not new. In fact it has been very common in US history. We need to be very careful what we are willing to believe about Iran.
A few points I would like to make clear:
1. Iran is nowhere near possessing weapons grade plutonium. The plants that currently exist are not capable of making materials for a weapon. If they were to change gears and attempt to make a weapon it would take years if not decades to accomplish and would not be able to be hidden even for months.
2. Iran is complying with UN weapons inspectors.
3. President Ahmadinejad never said that Israel needed to be wiped off the face of the earth. This was a negligent misquote (never corrected by) Mike Wallace. If you hear the entire enterview it is clear that Ahmadinejad never threatened Israel.
4. Iran poses absolutely no threat to the US by means of open war.
5. It has never been proven that Iran is behind attacks on Americans in Iraq. The evidence available indicates that it is unlikely Iran is actively interfering.
6. Geopolitically speaking it makes no sense for Iran to get into a war with the US or Israel. However the same cannot be said of the US, which hopes to benefit from a changed business and political climate in Iran.
7. We and our forefathers have been lied into wars many times as American citizens by the establishment. Only to find out later, with much research, that the lies were intentional and the truth intentionally buried until it was too late.
We need to understand what's going on before we start killing people this time.
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Are we this fucking stupid? Seriously, this needs to end.
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- Greg_Bunker
- 5 months ago
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holy shit . he won a pulitzer prize . my panties are soaked .
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all fucking lies
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This is exactly the type of insane shit I have been telling people they want to do. But of course no one listens to me...
I'm telling you, war with Iran before the election...
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- Ayahuasca2012
- 5 months ago
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I don't know if anything shocks me when it comes to Cheney. The Bush administration seems to be able to get away with anything.
I just pray that Obama can get elected this election. Otherwise, 4 more years of the same old thing.
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well they also had a plan to fly an unmanned plane painted in u.n. colors over iraq , hoping it would get shot down and they could start a war. i guess they chose to lie about wmd and 9/11 instead.
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Gulf of Tonkin anyone?
"American Planes Hit North Vietnam After Second Attack on Our Destroyers; Move Taken to Halt New Aggression", announced a Washington Post headline on Aug. 5, 1964.
That same day, the front page of the New York Times reported: "President Johnson has ordered retaliatory action against gunboats and 'certain supporting facilities in North Vietnam' after renewed attacks against American destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin."
But there was no "second attack" by North Vietnam — no "renewed attacks against American destroyers." By reporting official claims as absolute truths, American journalism opened the floodgates for the bloody Vietnam War.
A pattern took hold: continuous government lies passed on by pliant mass media...leading to over 50,000 American deaths and millions of Vietnamese casualties.
The official story was that North Vietnamese torpedo boats launched an "unprovoked attack" against a U.S. destroyer on "routine patrol" in the Tonkin Gulf on Aug. 2 — and that North Vietnamese PT boats followed up with a "deliberate attack" on a pair of U.S. ships two days later.
The truth was very different.
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- RyanBWylie
- 5 months ago
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"Bush and Cheney have $400 million approved by Congress to wage covert warfare on Iran, put a carrier task force in the Persian Gulf to make incursions into Iranian territorial waters and produce a constant barrage of lies and half-truths demonizing Iran in the mass media. The stage is set for a "Tonkin Gulf" type of incident to impel us into another war. Is there anyone in Congress willing to prevent this madness? Or, like Orwell's "1984" Oceania, have we finally learned to love Big Brother?" : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/06/29/DI2008062901238.html
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more liberal (Jounalists)lol making up shit because there still mad about losing in election 2000
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- montesooma
- 5 months ago
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whats disturbing is some dumbass libs on here will believe every word
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- montesooma
- 5 months ago
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From all we know about Cheney, why is it
so difficult for people to understand his
involvement in the 9/11 attack?
Why is he still in power much less in a
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- StewBradley
- 5 months ago
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Haha I've been to Screw Loose Change Forum and I'm even a member there and they have no excuse for the government claiming to have found Mohammad Atta's passport from the WTC collapse on 9/11 LOL
