Sy Hersh: Cheney, Neocons considered killing US troops as pretext for Iran war
In an exclusive Think Progress story, we learn the meeting took place in Cheney’s office and the subject on the table was “how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,” part of an ongoing effort to provide an excuse to attack Iran. “There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war,” Hersh explains. “The one that interested me the most was why don’t we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.”
According to Hersh, this meeting occurred after the neocons failed miserably to stage a rehashed version of the Gulf of Tonkin incident in the Strait of Hormuz, mostly because it is no longer 1964 and such Big Lies — thanks to the internet and bloggers — are far more difficult to float.
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- maasanova
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- merasyad
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Have we not got enough evidence to start impeaching
the whole bunch of bushies. Once we start the impeachment process bush being under investigation
can not pardon anyone, it's the law. Mark my words
he will pardon his whole gang including Dick Cheney-
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- kennymotown
- 11 months ago
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There is more than enough. Nancy Pelosi was complicit in torture so she doesn't want any hearings. She needs replaced with someone that has clean hands. Then we could have impeachment hearings. She should resign to spend more time with her family.
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When are we going to get a real government, one that doesn't have to propose halfbaked childish schemes to try and get us in yet another illegal war...all for the purpose of attending to a few elitists' hidden agenda... with no concern for the for the lives, the wants, or the needs of the brave soldiers or the proud citizens of this country...
It's a good thing that most of us are no longer fooled by the unscrupulous behavior of our 'so called' elected officials...they are nothing but criminal to say the least... jackasses, to put it a liittle more bluntly...
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We don't have any army for another war. Thank God for that fact anyway. Between Iraq and Afghanastan there are not enough troops now. How can we attack Iran(I detest any war)? Bush and Co and the Jews(which own refineries)are just jacking up oil prices. Iran dosen't mind either since it has the second largest oil reserves so it serves everyones greed to threaten Iran. And Iran won't back down and I don't blame them. "Do as I say not as I do" isn't working and it won't work unless you you lead by example. Us and the Jews want to have nukes but nobody else can have them. It's not working out that way, Iran is not Syria or Lebanon or Iraq, Iran is much more organized and stronger armed with a large army as well. Attacking Iran would be devastating to the middle east and other parts of the world as well. If Bush and Co. can't rebuild after Katrina, can't win in Iraq can't win in Afghanastan how the F____ is it going to win in Iran?(LOL)
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well this should make people who dont think 9/11 was an inside job think twice
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This guy has no creditability whatsoever, he can’t even sit up straight, he looks like he’s been on an all night binge and everything he says is hearsay with no backing. Why are you guys so eager to believe anyone who says anything negative about the Government, why are you giving this guy any credibility at all, is it what you want to hear? Therefore it must be true. Quit being so gullible, seeing a plot around every corner, conspiracy in every move, the victims of our terrible Government. As long as you folks keep making celebrity’s of anyone who has a conspiracy to perpetuate or an insider story that will surely get them on the news they will keep popping up.
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Yeah I don't buy this honestly...
if Cheney wanted to fake something like this, it'd be done already and we wouldn't have jackholes like this speaking about it
unless this guy winds up as a "suicide" in the next couple weeks I'll count everything he says as utter bullshit
I definitely think this guy has some ulterior motive to stirring it up-
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- RudyRudell
- 11 months ago
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I posted that two days ago.
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Well I know there might be a chance that this might not be true considering the comments and that there's no real proof to all of this, but the thought that the vice president would have even considered that gives me an awful feel of dread in my stomach.
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Nothing Happened in the Tonkin Gulf. Johnson planned and faked it. Pearl Harbor was known by FDR and contigency planned for. They all plan for different ways to accomplish a goal.
What would life be like if people did not consider all possiblities to get their way. Oh, I suppose we would all be Democrats , consider nothing, and just do it unplanned and take no responsibility and blame others for your failures.
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ABC News.
"U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba":
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba
By David Ruppe
N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 -
Seymour Hersh — a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker : http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh
The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran.
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For all the evil genius that everyone claims this group has, you would have thought that they would have found WMD in Iraq whether they were there or not. Even if they had to plant them. You give them to much credit for conspiracies.
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Early in the "war" on Iraq, Valerie Plame's CIA operation caught a vehicle trying to smuggle WMDs into Iraq from Turkey. This action prevented the neocons from planting them in Iraq and put an end to their efforts of doing so - once caught just one time, such an action will not be repeated. I suspect that this is the real reason for the Bush administration's outing of Valerie Plame - vengeance for her having spoiled their plans.
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no matter how much evidence you show somebody, it wont matter, they will only believe what the gov. tells them. we all know the gov. never lies.
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Remember President Carter's national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski who's testimony went unreported from last year where he said the Bush/Cheney cabal would most likely try to stage a terror attack and blame Iran as a pretext for an invasion?
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i thought the fact that cheney looked just like the penguin from the batman show in the 60s was coincidental. seeing his attempts at global domination makes me wonder if supervillans are real. oh my god ever notice bush looks like alfred e. newman from mad magazine. as long as we dont vote for lex luther next time around we should be ok
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To Vierotchka
Not easily believed without a reference, I looked here.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/hotdocs.htm
Your suspicions have no part in this. Recent Iraqi prisoners report that trucks carrying WMD LEFT Iraq, not coming into Iraq with WMD, but being a newshound myself, I have never heard your report or find verification .
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Hello Vierotchka, is there any proof to the Palme story? If so where? It would not surprise me, but I have heard nothing of this story before.
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Sadly, you vote for the government that you deserve.
You vote for the lesser of two evils, you still get evil. If you continue to surrender to the dictates of Democrat and Republican Party bosses and you don't vote for the candidate that you believe reflects YOUR beliefs and what YOU hold dear, then you deserve the candidate that you compromised to.
Congress is in recess right now. They're at home, trying to generate campaign money for their re-elections. You know where they are! If you're truly pissed off at what has been going on in your name, then rally your forces and MARCH to their offices. This is your chance to let them know as a group how you feel. Take it!
And when election day comes and you decide to either stay at home or to hold your nose and compromise your beliefs and compromise the things you hold dear by voting for either a Democrat or Republican, then you DESERVE everything that happens afterwards!
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This isn't news to a lot of people.
It's called a "false flag attack".
The same thing they pulled on September 11th, 2001.p.s. Prison Planet is not a decent source of info.
Alex Jones is a moon bat....-
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- HolyCity2012
- 11 months ago
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If you doubt that the meeting took place and that the subject was seriously broached, you need only look at all the other evidence pointing to Chaney as being a madman.
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Yet again, another bogus story from New Yorker magazine writer Sy Hersh. I would love to meet these "anonymous sources" he basis his made up articles on. He should just classify himself as a fiction writer and admit his sources are just figments of his imagination. I find it pathetic how so many gullible people eat up his garbage.
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Thats it. I have no more faith.
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its taking to long to off these bags of douche
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- thewarnerla
- 11 months ago
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