Date arrested in Greeley transgender murder

I dearly wish that my experience of the shadowy aspects of the human condition caused this article to be shocking............ruefully that is not so

awful.

sad sad day. this is really upsetting.

This is clearly a hate crime ... hopefully, the Greeley DA will get it right.

Clearly a hate crime, but also a crime of passion. Transexuals have a right to be themselves, but also need to make sure the people with whom they have sexual relations with are aware of their orientation.

Oh man, stuff like this is just sad.

The man was so utterly set in his sexual identity that he couldn't accept that he got blown by someone who was physically male, so he killed them.

America has seriously fucked up problems when it comes to gender security. When are we going to get past this shit? How many people have to die before we start teaching gender and sexual sanity?

she was gorgeous . and he looks like he just walked out of prison ( did he already have a record ? ) - exactly where he shouldn't be - in prison , where he'll be able to brag about how he killed her and get respect from all the other monsters .

Agreed, this is awful and sad . It is also sad because for every story told, there are a thousand that are not told.
But perhaps the saddest aspect is that fear and hatred engender only more fear and hatred

dude looked like a lady...

What justification can you possibly offer for this. Stories of violence against minority groups seem to be all too common nowadays. I hope this criminal is persecuted to full extent that law allows.

Unreal

Golden Rule....give it a try......Golden Ruler....Will

I grew up miles from where this and the Matthew Shepard abduction took place. I was just back there this weekend and the community is still torn up about it. It's not getting play time on national news. This is a serious tragedy that points to a massive problem in American society... meantime CNN is talking about how saucy McCain's attack ads are for comparing Obama to Paris Hilton. This story makes me sick, big news media makes me sick and sometimes knowing the problems where i came from makes me sick.

Please remember Angie. Tell someone about her and make sure they tell someone. Don't let her beauty be erased by blind bigotry.

Complete bastard.

clearly a hate crime, he didnt even recognize Angie as a person!!
theres needs to be a discussion about this to figure out how can something like this could happen, especially with the lessons learnd from the mathew sheppard case.

That is fucked up.

A.) In the fact that the "transexual" dude had lied and misled the guy into thinking he/she was a women. Sexually...Man/Woman=Night/Day=HUGE difference.

B.) In the fact that straight guy over-reacted and killed him/her/"it".

C.) In the fact that our society has come to the point where this sort of thing happens.

That is pretty sick that a guy decided he would just consider himself a girl and that the other guy was supposed to accept that without being told. Scary to see that people think this way.

I understand the guy being traumatized by that fact that a man had just violated him psychologically by claiming to be a woman. A man is a man, a woman is a woman. God designed the human species to reproduce through sexual attraction between a real man and a real woman, not any person's individual thought of what they consider themselves to be. I couldn't contemplate the thought of a man touching me sexually, that would be the equivalent of rape to everything that is programmed into a normal, straight human being.

That said, the other guy obviously shouldn't have killed him/her/"it". That just went from bad to worse to felony quick. It was a crime of passion or of feeling violated in the worst way possible, so it will be interesting to see how this goes.

You just found out a man that was pretending to be a woman sucked you off and that could easily be considered grounds for temporary insanity if you ask me.

I guess the lesson here is, don't meet strangers on the internet and have sexual relations with them. So much for the match made in heaven eh?

It looks like our society just lost two more upstanding citizens who, judging by their behavior, were destined to make the world a better place for future generations.

That's not a "minority group", to quote Austin Powers, "That's a man baby!"

That's sad... I mean, I understand that it is confusing in terms of how you would go about classifying her gender, but why should it matter. So much for unconditional love, huh?

dng , i've said it b4 - i like strong opinions , and i really don't care if i agree with them or not , so long as the individual i'm enjoying a good argument with isn't going to go out and kill anyone - strong opinions at least mean somebody has the character strength to believe in something .
that being said , you are a fool .

the True story of what happened in this instance is known to two people....one is dead.....the other is a lunatic.....there may be some decent men posting on this topic....I do not know.....I have watched the male animal in his habitat......when it comes to his penis.....he has very little control.....might think after the fact....but only then......there are some things that if you do I believe you have given up your right to stay at this carnival......harming someone for your own self justifiable reasons being number one...there use to be a fence in New York where men would stick their penis through a hole to have God only knows pleasure them.....and pay for it.....I am sure they walked away after the fact thinking......what was that........but only after the fact.....people say...women have a time when they might not be up to making rational decisions......most men are at that place...24 hours a day......7 days a week......Golden Ruler.......down on man......but don't kill me for it.....Will........

Yeah this is definitely a hate crime. I have no remorse for this guy whatsoever. If you’re going to engage in oral sex with a person you don’t know and it turns out to be a man that’s your own fault. If I was in that guy’s shoes and I found out I got a BJ from a dude I would run back to my house, change my email and myspace account and would tell NO ONE.

Beating someone to death with a fire extinguisher is inhuman.

on the same note had angie been honest and a bit more selective of her choices of partners this would not have occurred. It wasn't like she was with an open-minded fellow. This should be a lesson to all about hook-ups on the internet - you don't know what you are getting: the wrong gender or a murdering psycho.

i dont blame him for killing him.

This is a good reason why people shouldn't have random oral sex with someone they met on the Internet.

Another foul creature is on the loose after permanently canceling his membership to the human being club.

This is the same type of idiot that would blow up a free choice clinic in the name of The Baby Jesus. Clearly a candidate for medicinal pot, only I wouldn't waste a spliff on him

That's just one of dangers of letting a complete stranger go up in your business.

if you want to see what it looks like when someone gets hit in the head with a fire extinguisher you can search for the french film irreversible and the phrase fire extinguisher. it will pull up a clip on ebaumsworld. not at all for the faint of heart or spirit. it is disgusting. the worst shade of human depravity, and especially when taken out of context of the whole film.

read the whole story and some of the other updates.. NY Times ran an article on Sat.

The dude came over to her place to beat her, not once, but twice. Clearly the "heat of the moment" defense is out. He then stole her car and some stuff, which is partially how he was tied to her murder.

Although I am gay--not a transsexual, It makes me fear for my safety when things like this happen.

I hate to read this kind of news because it is so disgusting, it leaves a terrible feeling in my stomach. I hear people say all of the time "I'd kick his ass if he did that", such ignorance. He should've shot himself or beat himself to death because he's such an ignorant buffoon. This is not a human being this is a monster that would kill someone who gave them a bj. I'm not saying that I'm into transsexual sex but they are people too, they deserve to live. This is so saddening and disgusting.

It was in no way right to kill him, but the whole situation had shady written all over it to begin with. The easiest was to avoid _____ is to avoid the occasion for _____?

If you're having sex with people you just met off the internet before even knowing their sex, ummm... well I guess this is the worst case scenario of what could happen next to getting an STD or something.

If you're a transexual and are meeting people to have sex with online without even divulging the truth... then I guess you'll be more careful. Aren't there enough gay guys that would love having sex with a transexual that this person should have never lied to a straight person and put both of them in such an unfortunate circumstance?

What did these people do for careers besides just have sex with people they met online?

Yeah well he had it coming. How can anyone engage in sex with out disclosing their gender. I blame Zapata for not being honest. But still that doesn't justify what happened, no one should die for being different.

I disagree with the Killing, I agree with some punches if "she" was really a "he". Fuck this! Women also have to respect they way Man really feel if they are fooled sexually. If I'm a guy and the "He" looks like a "she" AND "HE/SHE" KNOWS IT, which is OBVIOUS then they should at least mention this.

The guy is a fucking murderer and he/she a fucking Player!

he was mostly upset because it was the best head he ever got lol

Why didn't "IT" admit that "IT" was a "IT". The punishment was too harsh. But I bet if "IT" told him that "IT" was an "IT", we would not be reading this news story

Lifestyle does tend to dictate matter of death.

This is a very sad and tragic thing to happen. This was obviously a hate crime. Why so much hate in the world?

The tales in the Bible suggest the Angels are niether male or female.

This crime is very, very sad. I understand the anger but murder? NO!