What small town America thinks about Obama -- It's not good!

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Salon.com has a fascinating (and deeply depressing) article about what small town Americans think of Barack Obama. Lets start with the bad news: they dont like him because, frankly, he is black and they think he is an elitist Muslim. The good news? Actually, there isnt any. Its becoming more and more clear that the dreaded 51 Percent Problem (the theory that Progressives are actually in the minority nationwide) is closer to being a 60 Percent Problem! Just read some of these excerpts from the Salon.com article:

Some voters revealed support for Obama even in blunt terms that seemed to run against their racial preferences. "I'm not a fan of the blacks," explained Dennis Rodriguez, 48, a restaurant manager from Manistique, Mich., "but I just think Obama is the right man for the job." Bob Morin, 53, a custodian and swing voter from Cubero, N.M. (a state Bush won by just 5,000 votes in 2004), told me, "I've got a few friends who say, 'There's no way I'm voting for a black guy,' but I think most people have gotten over it."

"He's just not someone I can personally relate to," explained Cathy Massingale, 33, of Cullowhee, N.C., a Democrat who first supported John Edwards this election, and then Hillary Clinton. "Obama just doesn't feel like someone who knows me." Massingale's husband is in the military, and she wants to see a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. But she said she remains undecided about Obama or McCain.

Just outside of Cranks, Ky., in Harlan County, Mack Middleton is a retired coal miner and a die-hard union man -- a United Mine Workers bumper sticker adorns his Dodge van -- but he is also a swing voter who voted both for Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. This year, Middleton, 62, and his wife, Janice, 57, aren't sure if they are going to vote at all.

"Obama, he's not our kind of people," said Middleton in a gruff, bitten-off speaking style, taking a break from canning green beans at the couple's double-wide mobile home. "He don't believe in the hereafter, and the Lord, the way I look at it ... he's Muslim."

Several people, from Michigan to Alabama, referred to an insidious picture circulating on the Internet of Obama wearing a white head-wrap and a robe next to a photo of Osama bin Laden in similar dress, with the caption, "What's the difference between Osama and Obama? Just a little B.S." According to a survey in July by the Pew Research Center, 12 percent of Americans still believed Obama was a Muslim -- even after the long Democratic primary battle that was covered heavily in the national media. Among rural Americans, 19 percent still believed he was a Muslim.

In Logan, W.Va., abandoned brick storefronts haunt downtown while the Fountain Plaza mall, anchored by a Wal-Mart Supercenter, gleams on the hill above town. Logan County was one of a few counties that voted for John Kerry in 2004 (George W. Bush won West Virginia overall), and, given a struggling economy, would seem primed to swing Democratic again. But Scott, 26, a former trucker currently unemployed, isn't going to vote for Obama. "I know it sounds stupid," he says taking a long drag from his Maverick cigarette, "but Barack Hussein Obama? And if he gets in, somebody'll take him out real quick," he said, referring to potential assassination, which was a surprisingly common theme along rural back roads.

In Columbus, Ohio, I encountered several white, upper-middle-class swing voters who said they would support Obama. But Terry Daniels, 53, a black man who runs a clothing store in downtown Columbus catering to the city's suburbanites, was skeptical that would happen. "Everyone likes to think they're progressive," Daniels said, "but when it comes down to it, they're not going to vote that way."
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92 comments // What small town America thinks about Obama -- It's not good!

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    What the Salon.com interviews with rural America shows us is that we, the Progressives, have been fooled.

    Hollywood has always shown America in a light that made it seem as if the American Ideals of Truth, Justice, Equality and Compassion were the mainstream opinion.

    What if its really not?

    What if Bill O’Reilly is drawing in tens of millions of viewers not because Rupert Murdoch somehow “tricked” them into tuning in, but rather people are tuning in because they really think that way?

    Up until now Democrats and Progressives have been operating under the assumption that their views and values are held by the overwhelming majority of people in the US and if we could just motivate enough people to vote our candidates would win.

    But what if we aren’t in the majority anymore?

    What if the reason there was no mass marches on Washington demanding universal healthcare or an end to the abuses of our civil liberties or an end to the torture (ass-raping) of POW’s held at Gitmo….is because the majority actually doesn’t care?

    What if creationism really is the majority belief right now?

    What if an extreme anti-abortion position really is the majority belief right now?

    What if homophobia really is the majority position right now?

    What if rampant nationalism and xenophobia really are the majority opinions right now?

    What if Progressives values became the minority position years ago….but we just didn’t realize it?

    Is the war for Americas soul already over and we've been blissfully unaware that Rush Limbaugh won years ago?

    crob80227
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    sadly, we'll get the president we deserve...

    loganwallace
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    Rush Limbaugh paved the way, but,

    I blame Fox news.

    neocongo
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    I blame the inbreeding in small town America...

    ESKCSG
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    I can't believe all small-town Americans believe everything they are told, so why are they acting like it?

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    It's amazing that in 2008 we still have people acting like it's 1958, with the I ain't votin' for no "ni##er" attitude. And they think that he is a Muslim, it just reminds you how little the average person wants to think for themselves and is so scared of change.

    They just want the same thing, a rich, old white guy scared of change.

    It's wide spread ignorance at it's finest.

    kelvin311
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    Okay, college crowd. This is what you're up against.
    Do the right thing and shut these ignorant fools up, once and for all, with the power of your votes.

    huntre
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    I live in a relatively small town (Grand Junction Co) and i can see this true. You wouldn't believe how many McCain bumper stickers are floating around here. Those people listed above need to quit being biggoted, its unbelievably ignorant.

    BUT----I was REALLY happy to see in my newspaper today that Obama's coming to my town on Monday!!!!!! That Blows My mind!!!!! I dont see McCain making an effort to notice the background voters, i hope Monday changes a lot of peoples minds about Obama. He's already got my vote!!!!

    Beatrix_Kiddo
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    Unfortunately That only shows what I have been saying all along, Middle America is ignorant and by default racist. Its up to the new voters to change this radically.

    vladbox
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    Unless you actually know people from small towns, this article is pretty easy to believe in its entirety.

    I know people from small towns and a few tell me they know the Bush administration is full of sh@t. Of course some people buy into the racist propoganda, but some know better.

    Poll results will always depend on the people being polled!!

    jkw077
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    It's also pretty bigoted to go into a small town, and call anyone with a McCain bumper sticker ignorant or a racist. Could it be possible that they simply don't support Obama for reasons other than his skin color? Come on Current, practice what you preach.

    thornman
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    Its true over half of America are complete morons.I think we should just split the country in two, the intelligent half and the stupid redneck half. america is going down in flames and all people care about is religion and skin color. who cares if you cant relate to him what the hell does that have to do with anything. your a dumb redneck you wouldn't relate to any presidential nominee.i cant wait for all these old racist rednecks to die. unfortunately they don't believe in protection or abortion so there having 10X as many kids as the intelligent people so we are really screwed. I say civil war we get lasers they get rocks and shovels.

    necksnappa
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    Generalizing millions of people based on a few interviews is always fun.

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    NoLogo
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    okay thornman. i live in this small town, i didnt just pass through yesterday. when i said biggoted...i was talking about those quotes up there in the story. Im not going to take every McCain supporter as a chicken hawk. Besides.....its not like im new to the racist outlooks of people---half of my family is southern and they are racist. they will tell you they are. So, yes the bumper sticker sporting McCain supporters probably like what that guy is saying---

    I Dont.

    Since i'm on current and i can say my opinion no matter what it is........my town has had HUGE problems with the housing situation. I read somewhere that it is one of the biggest spots for realty corruption and all that. I even lost my 2nd job not too long ago because people cant afford a one story Million Dollar house, so i had no sales to record there. MY POINT IS-----If i could guess why Obama picked my measly, crack head infested town is because he wants to address our housing situation. THATS REAL AND DEMONSTRATES CHANGE. No offense but i'm sick of trying to find a one bedroom apartment for under 700 bucks a month.

    Beatrix_Kiddo
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    if you support mccain and aren't a millionaire, you're ignorant to the truth.
    the real question is, how bad does it have to get before people are willing to stop being ignorant?
    from the sound of it, much worse than it is now.

    think about that for awhile.

    pakazak
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    I could almost laugh at these people if I wasn't about to cry.

    I am willing to bet these are the same Americans that do not read books.

    HolyCity2012
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    "It's also pretty bigoted to go into a small town, and call anyone with a McCain bumper sticker ignorant or a racist. Could it be possible that they simply don't support Obama for reasons other than his skin color? Come on Current, practice what you preach."

    It is true, but being a semi journalist, documentarist, having traveled around the US and the world and having met with tons of people in this country, I can tell you that many times the underlying reason is the race. Troubling is that not only whites also a large number of latinos. Of course it could not be 100% but it is a good percentage in fact, the crappy fabricated idea that Obama is Muslim, its the excuse mostly used to disqualify him from the job, when the news had reported over and over that He is not.

    America preaches that it represents the melting pot, now they have a qualified person that depicts exactly that, Obama is in fact a direct representation of the diversity that is US. It is time to move on and accept the reality the will undoubtedly be the future of this country.

    vladbox
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    That does it! I'm moving to Canada, who's with me?

    yeti
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    Ah.

    Some McCain supporters are trying to posion the well by trying to make the claim we are calling them racist for not supporting Obama's vision for our economy and foreign policy.

    No true.

    MY point in this thread was simply that the Republican worldview has won.

    See, Republicans like to pretend that they are some oppressed minority heroically taking a stand against those evil commie liberals.

    The reality is that the Conservatives have WON ALREADY!

    They got everything they asked for....and more!

    The majority (I would argue the overwhelming majority) of voters in this country believe every single thing McCain believes.

    They are extreme anti-choice, hyper-religious....and embrace a bizzare form of exterme nationalism that allows them to ass rape foreign POW's and still go to Church on sunday with a clear conscious because, c'mon, everybody knows Muslims don't have souls like white, er, I mean, like Christians Americans do so therefore whatever you do to them is not a sin. Bust out the ball gags and the lube cuz we got some terrorists to "interrogate". Hee haw!

    The Republicans have won. They won over America years ago. The Progressives just haven't realized it yet.

    crob80227
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    First of all, I too live in a small southern town of less than 30,000. I see racism just about every day of my life, the town I live in is still clearly segregated as far as the ghettos and nicer neighborhoods go. My own parents have said they are not voting for Obama because he is black, and they make idiotic incoherent racist jokes about him with all of their friends, so I am well aware that kind of mindset exists and it's also prone to smaller towns.

    That said, there's still a significant, and in my opinion, growing population of people in this town who are not following the paths of their parents. So I don't see the south being the way it is now, say, 30 years from now. I think once this last generation of baby boomers who grew up in the segregated south die out, true progression can begin.

    Now onto the idea of the McCain bumper sticker thing, I know several individuals who, like me have not become bitter racists like their parents, and still are not melting over Obama. They support McCain or pehaps a third party, but it's absolutely not because of skin color.

    I actually like this town. I believe it has terrific potential and it's annoying to see people over-generalize it.

    thornman
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    I just read this article for the second time.

    "An Elitist Muslim"?

    W.T.F.?!

    The only thing that is for sure is American voters are uneducated or ill informed

    To put it nicely

    HolyCity2012
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    I live in a small northern town and I too see racism and mccain signs yet I also see Obama signs and speak with folks who are not racist.

    We can either believe that this article is the tipping point or we can work harder to get Obama elected.

    My problem is I live in a state where Obama is pretty solid and will probably carry all the electoral votes.

    We cannot give up or give in as the alternative is unthinkable.

    MeganMcKenzie
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    More propaganda and lies! I live in small town America. 7236 people more or less. Huge support here. We don't give a shit what color the truth comes in, only that it arrives. Don't believe everything you read!

    sueathome
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    I wonder what Obama's campaign strategist are going to do to resolve this sitaution?

    GLiz
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    Dennis Kucinich's famous command for America to "Wake up!"

    If this were a movie (and doesn't it seem like one at this point?) Dennis speech would be called foreshadowing.

    In the cult classic "They Live!" the world has been taken over by aliens who are stripping our planets resources and using us a sleepwalking slaves. The aliens look exactly like normal people so none of the human realize they have already been conquered. Earth lost years ago, but no one realizes it. In the story the hero finds a special pair of glasses that allow him to see the aliens all around him.

    As you can imagine the revelation is quite shocking.

    "Wake up, America!"

    I sometimes experience a similar sense of shock. I go about thinking the majority of Americans embrace Progressive Ideals that have made this country powerful and just....and then I have conversations that make me realize that....things are not as they appear.

    I mention to co-workers and family what a horror and an embarrasment GitMo is and instead of a chorus of voicing agreeing that stacking POWs in a naked pyramid is a national embarrasment....everyone around me wonders why I find such practices objectionable!

    "They deserve it! Payback for 9/11!" they say.

    Same with universal healthcare. Suddenly everyone starts repeating, in a mindless pod-person way, "Universal healthcare is bad. Horrible. Must keep giving State Farm money. Chemotherapy is consumer choice, not a Constitutional right! Let them die!"

    Creationism. Race realtions. The occupation of Iraq. Abortion. Civil liberties.

    On issue after issue I look around and I see....Conservatives! Conseravtives everywhere!

    I am beginning to suspect that the Conservatives took over America years ago and that the Progressives (and our ideals) are a rapidly disappearing group.

    "Wake up, America!" Dennis shouts.

    The Conservative ideology....it's everywhere!

    Where's the America we used to know?

    How long have we been asleep?

    Is it too late now?

    crob80227
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