Family flee neo-Nazi rally

I was there, no, not at the event but living next door and am the one who shot the video. Firstly I really appreciate all the comments that support we were right to highlight this publicly. When you have three young daughters and a wife scared and crying you have a duty as father and husband to protect your family whatever that threat maybe. It was obviously pointless trying to confront those in charge at the time and I decided the best thing for my family was to move out for the night. Safe from any violence that may occur ( who's gonna hang around to find out, best to take the safe option ) but also to protect my children from the vile language, behaviour and views of this group. Secondly it was right to bring this to the public areana so people are aware that these views are still out there. There was such an atmosphere of hate at this event. I have on camera the sound to some of the songs they were singing and Zieg Hieling to, and I can tell you they were not songs about being patriotic of proud to be English but full of racism and white supremacy. There were people from France, Germany, Easter Europe, Germany and England and that's just what we heard. Freedom of speech is not about hating others but voicing your beliefs and respecting others. Just with any other extremists you care to mention this is not acceptable in society. After the Jeremy Vine on radio 5 yesterday someone called in to say they were there and that it was a family event and the zieg hieling only happened after a minutes silence in tribute to Ian Stuart Donaldson. I can tell you that the Zieg Hieling was going on from early afternoon until we left at 8.00pm. I saw just two children there and the majority of adults were male. This is hardly a "family" event. In reply to "Papasmurf" and quit rightly pointed out by "forcryingoutloud" if the landlady and the manager were duped then why didn't they call the police? Isn't that what sensible lanlord's do? If a fight breaks out on their premises they don't stand by and let it go on. Not only that this event started on Friday afternoon with live music that night, it was clear then that this was not a "Scooter" rally and they could've put a stop to it then. We saw people with "KKK" on their t-shirts as early as 11am on Saturday and Swastika flags shortly afterwards. Also I am aware of at least two local residents who were involved in organising this event and it just so happens these are regular drinkers and very friendly with the management! If they were genuinely "duped" then why deny that any of this happened when interviewed by the BBC only to change their stroy now it's hit the national press? Surely if they were duped they would've come out and said this straight away. And why not make a public apology? I think they knew precisely what was going on and you can make your own assumptions on that!

Papasmurf clearly does not know the landlord of the bungalow Inn as well as people who went to school with him. He espoused racist views then and does so now. To claim that the tenants were duped is nonsense. And why did they not end the rally when it became clear it was not - as claimed - a scooter rally? Has he really been to events at the Inn...

it isn't the same europe that our grandparents fought to free and change
in fact thanks to the eu it is definitely more like the europe hitler wanted - one europe one people one currency one passport one legal system etc

facism never went away
I do think that when germany asks to ban nazis and their symbols I kind of agree, but if you ban how can people stand up and say it's wrong? (legal technicality ) or how can we show the young just what happened back then?
show them that what's happening now has happened before?
there are definitely documentaries that should be compulsory for all children to see, from the age of 4
but public opinion and demonstration would be better - lead by example
as in the late 70's early 80's in the uk people should demonstrate - although aggression and violence is quite possibly the only way to again defeat it

(I didn't realise or know that about the west coast states)

It's quite understandable that activities like this shouldn't be shunned so as not to drive them underground. But really in this era we live in to realize that Fascism in Italy, Racism in Russia now Neo Nazism in England. Pls can someone tell me isn't this the same Europe that gathered itself together and fought Hitler siting these same issues coming out at the end of it saying 'never again' it seems we still have a long way to go.

it is very offensive to any culture when they are seemingly represented by a group with abhorent beliefs that are not reflected by the general public. in parts of the us-portland oregon, seattle washington- this type of activity in the late 80s, early 90s led to anti-nazi groups such as skinheads against racial predjudice, sharps as they are commonly known. racisim in this part of the country is not publically tolerated to the degree that it was happening back then. growing up in portland, yes racisim still existed, but i think the general consensus was and still is that RACISIM SUCKS. that was a common logo displayed. one that many were proud to display on t-shirts, bumper stickers etc.. communities need to be vocal about how they feel to make clear to these nazis that they are not welcome.

freedom of speech was passed circa 1688 in the uk and has already been mentioned it's the best way to keep tabs on movements like this, on any extremists

stopping them being underground is important
if they are underground then people like this are free to act without worry
which has been clearly demonstrated in recent years

funny how two groups that deny the 11 million holocaust are nazis and islamists, or maybe not funny at all

As someone who has been to events at the Bungalow Inn over the past few years I am quite certain the licencees were duped by the organisors of the "Scooter Rally".
800 attending is far too many for the site whatever the event.
I have never seen any problems at events at the Bungalow and certainly no sign of any neo-nazis.

Censoring the event would like have forced it underground, but I don't see that being a significant issue.

The less people that know about this behaviour the less people can be enticed by it.

This was egregiously abusive display and i too would be terrified if such an unplanned (or planned) event took place. But racism must be exposed, criticised, refuted and rejected publicly - made to look like what it is - evil prejudice. Would censoring the likes of these events be effective?

I guess not for the simple reason it restricts the most precious and fragile of freedoms: the freedom to speak your mind, regardless of whether others agree with your views or are horrified and upset by them.

This is shocking, the brewery need to evict those landlords, to claim that they had no idea there was neo-Nazi behaviour going on is ludicrous.