Darrow, Darwin, and Dayton

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Recently, VP Candidate Sarah Palin made an extraordinary claim. "Yes", she said, "I have seen images of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them!", a statement consistent with her attempts to get 'creationists' put on school boards. By definition, a 'creationist' believes that human beings were contemporary with dinosaurs.

A 'creationist' believes that human beings were contemporary with dinosaurs because 'creation' —they believe —took place just 6,000 years ago. Palin has long espoused 'creationism', a belief that Genesis is a literal history. If so, all creation took place over a period of seven days about 6,000 years ago, thus: the creationist believes that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. And not just in Jurassic park or Alley Oop comic strips.

The 'footprints' that were said to be human were not. That determination was made back by 1989. Claims that human tracks had been fossilized in pre-Tertiary rocks from other localities are "not considered credible by ... mainstream scientists' or 'major creationist groups". [See: The Paluxy Dinosaur/'Man Track' Controversy, Glen J, Kuban]

The idiotic idea that the universe is but 6,000 years old is easily refuted. Consider the known, proven distance to the Andromeda galaxy --some 2 million light years. That means that when we look up into the night sky and see Andromeda, we see it as it was two million years ago. We see the Magellanic Clouds as they were some 195 thousand years ago. If the Earth were but six thousand years old, the number of stars visible to Earth might be counted on our fingers and toes.

It comes down to this: if we can look up at the sky at night and see Andromeda, 'creationists' are wrong! Guess what! We can SEE Andromeda. It is the only Galaxy that is visible to the naked eye. If we had discovered no other object, we must conclude, therefore, that the universe is at least two million years old. Of course, there are many more objects that are much more distant than Andromeda and they are easily discerned by the Hubble telescope.
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22 comments // Darrow, Darwin, and Dayton // Video

  • Claudius
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      Claudius  

    • The world laughed at us when Bush Jr. was elected.
      If Palin comes to office, the world wont laugh they will only pity for us.

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • truthdig911
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      truthdig911  

    • It is hard being an American these days. Especially when you come in contact with as many people from overseas and South America as I do on a daily basis. You can instantly see just how much better educated and informed they are compared with Americans. Palin is just a super symbol of the dumbing down of our citizens. The problem isn't that she is an idiot - which she is - but that people will actually vote for McCain with her on the ticket. As Cafferty said "this women is one 72 year old's heartbeat away from the White House and if that doesn't scare you it should."
      Anyone with any intelligence knows the Universe is billions of years old and that dinosaurs and humans never came in contact with each other. Religion is a terrible thing. I don't say the belief in a divine being who may have created the universe billions of years ago is a bad thing - but religion which teaches such stupidity as Palin talks about is just plain idiotic. God save us from religion and fools like Sarah Palin!

    • 1 year ago
  • lenhart
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      lenhart  
    • truthdig911:

      "As Cafferty said "this women is one 72 year old's heartbeat away from the White House and if that doesn't scare you it should."

      It scares me. Sarah Palin has tried to put 'creationists' on School Boards. This is NOT a matter of faith as creationists' believe their theory to be fact as opposed to religious faith.

      By trying to IMPOSE a religious agenda upon publically financed schools, they have made this a political issue, it is now fair game for debate.

      'Creationists' and 'fundamentalists' are free to believe upon 'faith' anything they want. They are free to teach it in their church supported schools.

      They are NOT free to teach --AT PUBLIC EXPENSE --dogma DISGUISED as real science.

    • 1 year ago
  • Wreyeter
  • Vierotchka
  • huntre
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      huntre  

    • "Inherit The Wind", will always be one of my favorites.
      Right up there with, "To Kill A Mockingbird", for opening my mind to things beyond the seen or believed.
      Another excellent production, lenhart.
      By the way, what source album was used for the Murrow naration?

    • 1 year ago
  • lenhart
  • Vierotchka
  • rebot
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      rebot  

    • where the hell did she see a fossil like that???

      probably at a CREATIONIST museum, where they CREATED THE FOSSIL

    • 1 year ago
  • CCashman
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      CCashman  

    • Actually, creationists would claim that not only was the Earth created 6,000 years ago, but so was the entire universe, which is all the more ridiculous.

    • 1 year ago
  • lenhart
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      lenhart  
    • CCashman:

      You are exactly right. The article attributes to 'creationism' the belief that the 'universe' is only about 6,000 years old. A belief that is disproven in many ways, but the simplest is the fact that we can SEE Andromeda, PROVEN to be some 2 million lights years distant. That means that we we see Andromeda (it can be seen with the naked eye), we see it AS IT WAS 2 million years ago. That would, of course, be impossible if the 'universe' was only 6,000 years old.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • lenhart
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  
    • Image...

    • How did we get to the point where our favorite village idiot bimbo can actually say out loud TOTAL OBSCURANTISM CRAP without being ridiculed & laugh out of town ? How can she still be a hearth beat away of becoming the President of the USA !!!

      THIS ALL A DIRECT RESULT OF THE DELIBERATE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA !

      ...FOR IT IS MUCH EASIER TO ABUSE AN ELECTORATE OF NINCOMPOOPS THAN WELL EDUCATED & INFORM CITIZENS...

      Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, former Senior Policy Advisor in the US Department of Education, blew the whistle on government activities.
      http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

      PALIN CLAIMED DINOSAURS & PEOPLE COEXISTED !
      http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/100822/

      Now don't feel too bad, those crazy canucks (Canada is up there somewhere near Iceland some say ;) ...well those igloo huggers are equaly proud to ignore that the person in charge of their whole security (yeah that means protecting them from fundamentalist ignorant terrorist ;) well believes and says the exacts same thing !!!

      THE MAN WHO WALKS WITH DINOSAURS http://thetyee.ca/Views/2004/12/01/TheManwhoWalkswithDi...

      So I'd say advantage USA since Palin is but a candidate but Stockwell Day has been protecting them beaver lovers against... whatever for years now

    • 1 year ago
  • lenhart
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      lenhart  
    • WhiteNoise:

      Thanks for the link to the PDF file. You are correct. There appears to be no doubt that the 'dumbing down' of America is deliberate and there is no doubt which party has benefited most from it.

      Texas is a case in point. Under GOP 'leadership' --GWB and, later, Rick Perry --Texas now beats out Mississippi for dead last in education.

      Because only idiots will consistently repeat failed strategies, the GOP must be held to account. GOP 'leadership' invariably leads to marked and measurable deterioration of education and educational standards.

      This is a crime. By tolerating this, we perpetrate a crime upon succeeding generations.

    • 1 year ago
  • khromadjo
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      khromadjo  

    • 50,000 years ago: Neanderthals created glue from birch sap
      30,000 years ago: Bow and arrows created
      11,000 years ago: Clay bricks were first made
      10,000 years ago: Cats and oxen domesticated in Egypt
      9,000 years ago: Rice was cultivated in China
      7,000 years ago: Beer and wine created in Persia

      2,000+ years ago: the greatest fallacy in the history of mankind is gathered into a book of compiled stories advocating pagan rituals, enslavement, homophobia, genocide, subjugation of women and children, murder and dismemberment.

      The Bible's "teachings" have killed and persecuted more people in the world than all the natural disasters, wars (many of which were caused by it) and disease epidemics combined.

      Why would anyone want to believe in such a repulsive tome?

    • 1 year ago
  • rainbowryan420
  • isnamthere
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      isnamthere  

    • Perfect leader for our nation. A right-wing xtian idiot to lead a country full of right-wing xtian idiots. The rest of the world ought to just build a giant wall around amerika so none of the lunatics escape to contaminate all the others.

    • 1 year ago
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