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TAKE ACTION ON 2008 BALLOT INITIATIVES

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Alert your friends in key states
The ACLU is taking a stand on crucial intiatives that will appear on November’s ballot in 8 different states. Do you know people who live in these states? Learn about these ballot intiatives and send messages to your friends by clicking on a state below.

A great way to be proactive!

I'm in California and I'm voting NO on: Props 4, 7, 8, & 10
and YES on Props: 1a & 2

Pass it on!! : )

Thanks!

onechance

20 responses // TAKE ACTION ON 2008 BALLOT INITIATIVES

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    ....Texas.....the great state where your vote means nothing....the blue blues....that has to be some kind of Civil Liberty abuse....Golden Ruler....Will.......

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    I am from Texas, this doesn't seem to effect me... not yet anyway.

    ChristmasAsen
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    Nebraska here. Sent to 43 friends. Thanks buddy!

    Patio_Patty
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    Good lookin-out. I'll have to check that out and consider your suggestions. I'm in SoCal myself. Thanks.

    jc911truth
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    I'm not in those states and i have no idea what these intatives are about.

    deeblackangel
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    I'm a Californian, so I've sent the notice to all of my email friends here. In Arkansas, vote NO on Act 2. In Florida, vote No on Amendment 2.

    dkincheloe
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    Definitely voting no on prop 8. I still have to do a bit of research on the other CA props.

    Yoshi1
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    Right on everyone. Glad to see a bit of activism.

    To the people that redlighted, you're hopeless.

    onechance
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    While anything the ACLU - willing, even eager, participants in the Operation MOCKINGBIRD effort to factionalize the nation's electorate - does these days, I checked on all the "initiatives" (the word suggests something new, doesn't it - none of this is news).

    Just the bias evident in the summaries of the various initiatives ought be enough to dissuade anyone. Anyone aware of history - both as applies to the U.S. generally since WW-2 and as to the abortion rights and gay marriage issues - will recognize what's really going on here.

    Why is it that no one ever demands federal financing for research toward curing the birth defect of homosexuality? When can we expect legislation seeking to make it illegal to discriminate against autism or the like?

    Is it illegal for a male to "marry" his thirteen year old male "lover?" How about a female who wants to "marry" her thirteen year old female "lover?" Do we need new legislation to deal with that?

    What's next? You guessed it: can one "marry" his dog? What if it doesn't mean bestiality? Why does that make a difference?

    Elsewhere here, I said ignorance of history was crippling; and that bias was worse. Well, now we see what I meant.

    Walks_in_Storms
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    ....Walks_In_Storms....this is a can of worms I would like to avoid but can not.....Homosexuality for lack of a better word occurs in nature in many forms mostly as an over population trigger...it is not a defect of birth....what is happening in the world today is the result of hormone balances...men and women each have a balance of estrogen and testosterone.....for around sixty years...estrogen has been used to fatten animals....they say it has stopped..I do not know....in South America girls are reaching puberty at the age of six and seven due to the estrogen that has been placed in chicken, turkey, and beef since the fifties....if hormones in America were checked...and it is easy...it would be found that a great imbalance exists....if you took estrogen for six months...you would lose your beautiful beard...develop ample breasts...and see things totally different....nothing is right or wrong with your changed attitude....it is just chemicals gone wild.....Golden Ruler...Will....

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    In AZ and the only one that matters which will impact society as a whole is Prop 102. For this I am voting "Yes".

    Kylsport
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    Thanks onechance you always got important things to say!!!!

    Colorado is my home state and therefore i appreciate this a lot, i'm sending it to everyone. People need to know these things, or we may find ourselves in a situation even worse than what it has been like.

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    Beatrix_Kiddo
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    This affects Florida and I'm voting NO on amendment 2.

    HiImGuss
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    Will Rogers, read (please) what you wrote. "Homosexuality . . .occurs in nature in many forms mostly as an over population trigger..."
    Supplant "homosexuality" with dwarfism, autism, sickness, stupidity, ignorance - anything you like.

    The try to tell yourself that we should respond to anything that happens a great deal by declaring is normal and acceptable - protecting it agains research or understanding, even - then moving on.

    Imagine for a minute that science learns - as it will finally (but, thanks to attitudes like yours seems to be, after a very, very long and unnecessary time) - how to reverse or otherwise cure homosexuality. Then imagine, if you can, that most homosexuals would reject the cure and fight to stay that way.

    How many people born with a hare lip were against he "vivisection" (surgery) that could cure their birth defect?

    Think, friend - don't just emote.

    Walks_in_Storms
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    ONeChance, I assume from what you say that medical treatment of autism (for instance only) is "bigoted" (sic) and discriminatory? Research to cure it is "bigoted?" (sic).

    Equal opportunity applies to the insane (again, for instance). To suggest that equal opportunity legislation applies to the autistic or the like is ridiculous.

    It was once illegal to marry anyone of the same sex. What, therefore, is to stop the same methods from making thirteen the legal age for homosexuals? Your argument in this instance, by the way, is called circular, and while typical of the homosexual and his supporters is as illogical as the practice itself.

    I don't read the Bible (or any other such writing) and my opinions have nothing to do with Judeo-christian morality or ethics (and your argument there is what is known as ad hominem; it is also an example of the "straw man" fallacy, to say nothing of logical leap). You assume too much.

    Walks_in_Storms

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