Would you help a loved one die?

Really? Please cite me the chapter and verse, or at least give me an idea what Biblical personages were involved (Noah? Ruth? Judas?) so I can look it up and read for myself the scriptural prohibition against euthanasia.

Then why go to the doctor at all if it is not your right to do what you want with your body? Why not just trust god to take care of it, or surrender to "god's will"? What gives you the right to prolong a life through medical intervention but not end it the same way?

What about your family pet? If they were in pain, suffering from something that would eventually kill them, would you consider euthanasia for them?
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you're not a vegetarian either, right? I mean, life is so damn precious, are you putting it in your gut every day?
There's an amazing double standard in our society, and so many people don't even realize it. Really think about it - what constitutes life in your book? How much do you really value life, in all its forms?

With that same narrow minded mentality you don't swat flies or mosquitoes.

Do not equate human life with animal life. No amount of research or PeTA propaganda will ever make them the same.

As for my dog...she got hit by a car on Monday. Or so we think...because she whined and hobbled back to the door. She doesn't whine often. We take her to the vet they won't do anything for her and if they do try to fix her they might make a mistake and then ask if we went to put her down. She still wags her tale and she still tries to move her back legs.

Telling me that I have the choice over another life to take it via animal against human is not the same.

Animals do not have a voice nor do they have a gift. They do not have morals nor do they have empathy for humanity as humans have for them. They are not on the same playing field. They do not deserve any mistreatment but they don't deserve human rights. Deciding their death is far different than deciding the death of a human. It's less complex. The things that can be done for them medically are no where near what can be done for humans.

As for deciding if I would end my dog's life if she were in pain that is far too complicated for me to even to comprehend and the guilt I know I would feel would be much. I would not be making that call and leave that up to the vet to decide.

I don't even hunt.

I do eat meat.

I agree with you about the animal comparison, (not because I don't believe animals aren't worthy however). But can you honestly say - faced with the choice - that you would rather watch the person you love most on this planet end their lives in pain and misery rather than 'help them' just because you have no right to 'disrespect life'. Surely life has disrespected you and the person dying by putting you in that situation in the first place.

J_Jammer... I gotta ask you... do you just like to play devil's advocate? You tend to just disagree with the popular opinion and then argue it with at least some degree of intelligence.. and I've heard you defend yourself by saying people have lost their 'sense of humor'.. so whats your deal?

I know people that are paralyzed like that one boy mentioned and they are full of life.

Pain is also mental and created by the person. Someone could be in a horrible situation and it's made that much worse by how they think about it.

This is a situation that is up to the person to decide. What they decide is what they decide. I do not think less of the boy for deciding that what he had now compared to what he had then is worse and not worth living. I understand that sort of mentality based on his situation.

But to state that that's how another would feel if they were in that situation is silly. There is no rule book on who would feel what during what situation. You can't control situations. You can only control how you perceive them. And that is power in itself to create great change that leads to coping.

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What exactly do you mean what is my deal?

I will see if I can answer it with this:

People don't argue the point made in news articles. They arguing feelings and attachments to groups they love. People who defend Obama argue for him and because he's part of this group and ignore his faults. When someone says something about him those people claim they are lying or don't understand or they justify it. That's a problem because it's about the situation and they just make it about him and how lovable he is. Who cares? He's to be the President. Lovable isn't presidential nor is part of what a leader needs to be. Teddy Bears are good for one thing...hugging and calming...not for this world and it's tainted view of right and wrong.

Then those same people will attack Palin or McCain viciously with the exact same comments they were defending Obama against.

It's annoying and they deserve opposition to such atrocious thinking.

That's one reason why I do that.

Jammer, you are so wrong and so arrogant. You assume to know what everyone on the planet that is backing Obama feels! How utterly arrogant!

I voted independant every election except this one for over 25 years. I am not voting for Obama, I am voting AGAINST McCain and the Republican party! Yet you talk like I am voting for Obama because I need cuddles from a teddy bear! How stupid!

And I cannot stand Palin for the same reason over 80% of America cant stand her.. she is stupid, arrogant, a religous nut, a crappy parent, a crooked politician, and has an ego bigger than Alaska!

Only a fool presumes to know what millions of people think, but only an ass makes his feelings known so often.

You know what YOU think Jammer, not what every one of the millions upon millions of voters think.

You can't state an opinion without being insulting. Must be a talent.

You are damned right I am insulting you! You are a fool!

You state that NONE of us on here can state an opinion without responding to our feelings alone... an insult!

You state that eveyone voting for Obama is doing so because we are in love with him and not voting on issues... an insult!

You say that when we state an opinion that disagrees with yours, we are lying... an insult!

You insult everyone constantly, and I AM insulting you! You are a fool, and idiot, and an egomaniac!

But you did pick your icon properly... a cartoon of a little pissed off man... THAT is YOU!

Deal with yourself honestly dingbat, we all see you for exactly what you are.

J_Jammer, who's right is life if not yours? Why would you not have the right to do what you want with your body? To whom do you grant that authority?

I agree.

would you like quick and painless or long and and horrible

Thanks for that info!

Total agreement!

I think the wording here is equal important, Euthanasia sounds (and don't get me wrong is a) genuine medical solution, when life is unliveable.

The problem with 'Assisted-Suicide' is the connotations with crudely written, notes by depressed teenagers who've listened to the wrong music growing up - Suicide isn't thought of as the most socially acceptable practice, I think we need to make use a medical definition like, Euthanasia to differentiate.

And yes I am 100% behind it.

Interesting, my mom always told me she doesn't want to be plugged in at all. She's a brain aneurysm survivor, so there's a decent chance I may have to stand by that one day.