"Nearly 15% of Americans identify themselves as ‘non-religious,' but surveys have consistently shown that 95% of Americans celebrate Christmas," says Andrew Shaffer, Order of St. Nick's owner and creative designer. "Order of St. Nick seeks to bridge the gap between belief and observation.
"Christmas is a national holiday in the United States. Everyone, regardless of religious beliefs, should be able to
celebrate with family and friends at this time of year," says Shaffer."
Now y'all know what to get me for Christmas :)
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- DeliaTheArtist
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Christmas symbolizes love and family more than anything else.
Christ's sacred birthday bit went out the window when the advertising started in October.
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- mookster_07
- 8 months ago
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Ancient man celebrated the seasons or their changing. As if anyone needed an excuse to gather with family and friends and party. Happy holidays.
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- bluestranger
- 8 months ago
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Let's seee - Saturnalia. The Festival of Saturn. Every December 25th for 7000 years - the winter celebration to let go of the old and hello to the new.
It was Christmas, New years and the year-end all out, blow out. EVERYBODY liked Saturnalia. Slaves ate with the Masters, everybody got along.So, when the "Christians" took over the government of Rome, they replaced all the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman Pantheon with like personalities but of new Christian names - Jesus for Apollo, Mary for Minerva, etc, etc. -See everybody wants to pray to all these deities.
But what about Saturnalia? NOBODY wants to give up Saturnalia!!!
Wait! I know, let's call it the Mass for Christ! (even though he supposedly wasn't even born in the winter)Yeah, that's it. The Mass for Christ - uh-h-h - and new years... a few days later.
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its practically for anyone who wants to celebrate Christmas, i want to celebrate Christmas, without the reminder of having the religion, as long as you know what the holiday is all about, it will still be Christmas, regardless..
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- metalcookiesxy70
- 8 months ago
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LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man, if someone gave me one, I might have to marry them. That seriously RULES.
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but perhaps, as hypocritical as they can be, religions remind us of our humanism.
somewhere along the line, i went from being a christian to being someone who thinks we are all god.
we must hold each other as sacred as we hold ourselves.
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I appreciate Delia for consistently bringing rational thought to the home page @ current dot com.
god is imaginary.
the end
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- HolyCity2012
- 8 months ago
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I don't think I would purchase a Athiest card, I like the traditional christmas themes. For me Christmas doesn't hold as a religous celebration. I usally would go by the Hebrew Calendar and the Jewish Feasts that are of importance. But the past 2 Christmas I have found myself glued to Aljazeera English all day for the updates on Christians in Bethlehem and too see if there church services run smoothly.
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Ehhh, I disagree with the card shown. Why is it that atheists insist on using evolution to represent them? Don't you realize that just adds flame to creationist propaganda?
Atheist Christmas cards? Sure, why not. It's not a Christian holiday anyway. Even if it was, that's still no reason to not celebrate it if you want to.
This is a bit of a tangent, but it's an idea I'd like to throw out there.
Religion and culture are inseparable, I still can't figure out why people insist on them being two separate forces.
Bottom line, religion is the justification for cultural practices and beliefs, that's it. That's why ten different churches in the U.S. preach ten different things. Because it's about using god to legitimize their local culture. Not overtly of course, not for the most part, but as a natural process.
And since you can agree or disagree with any aspect of culture, what reason is there to disagree with Christmas? If nothing else, it's an excuse for us all to get together and care about each other, even if it's in a superficial manner.
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Christmas cards come in all shapes, colors, sizes etc...
Hey...so do people. Funny that!!!
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- cantucwearebrothers
- 8 months ago
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I hope they do some agnostic cards. I'd buy atheist cards except for the inherent illogic of the atheist position. One cannot prove a negative. One cannot prove God does not exist.
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neocongo,
I do not believe in purple unicorns. I do not believe in flying spaghetti monsters. I do not believe in God. The logic of each assertion is not in doubt.
If you are an agnostic you are probably either a polite atheist or slightly confused. By withholding judgement (agnosticism) you are saying no to God's existence, which is atheism.
I love the cards.
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- unimatrix0
- 8 months ago
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Evolution and Christianity aren't opposed to each other.
The Catholic Church has accepted evolution as fact for a really long time.
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Thanks Delia... I'm going to buy some!
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- SushiBandit
- 8 months ago
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Let's clear some things up here.
First of all, no one is necessarily suggesting that religious people don't believe in evolution (though you will find that A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T, and America ranks VERY LOW compared to other countries on the acceptance and understanding of evolution.) The card is meant to be funny. Chill out.
Secondly, all this stuff about atheists being illogical is ridiculous. If you want to get heavy into philosophy and whatnot, of course we "don't know anything" and "can't say for sure" when it comes to the grand scheme of reality. MOST atheists will give you that. But we CAN rule out certain notions as probably wrong, like the existence of purple unicorns, FSMs and God. Do you really call other people illogical for NOT believing in leprechauns, just because they could be real? C'mon!We can argue labels all night, but you are still an atheists if you think god PROBABLY doesn't exist. Refer to Dawkin's belief scale:
1. Strong Theist: I do not question the existence of God, I KNOW he exists.
2. De-facto Theist: I cannot know for certain but I strongly believe in God and I live my life on the assumption that he is there.
3. Weak Theist: I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God.
4. Pure Agnostic: God’s existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable.
5. Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists but I’m inclined to be skeptical.
6. De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable and I live my life under the assumption that he is not there.
7. Strong Atheist: I am 100% sure that there is no God.-
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- DeliaTheArtist
- 8 months ago
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It's all good... it's amazing how long that poster of the evolutionary progress of man from apes has stuck with us...however, if you think about the missing link, then you have to consider whether there was someone toying with the genetic engineering of our predecessors... therefore, maybe a celestial master of the universe was involved in the process... I wonder if they celebrated something like Christmas..? Happy Time...
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- PlatoTacius
- 8 months ago
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Plato, what do you mean by "missing link"?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0413_060413_evolution.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_evidence_is_there_for_the_missing_link
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- DeliaTheArtist
- 8 months ago
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What am I classified as, Delia, if I believe that there's no
God as defined by man, but, just maybe, somewhere in the space time continuum there is a higher force that is what drives life and existence as a whole? Man, that was a long sentence. Does there not have to be something that gives an answer as to why anything is even here in the first place? -
Christmas is so commercialized anyway, no one thinks about Jesus. It's just an excuse to buy presents and decorate trees.
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We all need something to do during the cold, dark months of winter. (Unless of course you're in the southern hemisphere, where it is just delightful) Why not give each other gifts and not be dicks to one another for once?
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I consider myself a de-facto atheist. On to the topic at hand, Christmas has it's roots from pagan traditions(winter solstice stuff). I see it as a Christian tradition in name only.
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Oh Irony you never get old
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I love the idea, i think it's great
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- SilvaForever
- 8 months ago
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I am irreligious and irresponsible. If there is a God then he cares not much about what happens to us in general.
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- punchy_pukeadero
- 8 months ago
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Our Santa, which art in North Pole
Claus be thy name
Thy LEGO kingdom come,
Thy will be wrapped, in paper as it is on television
Give us this day our daily candy
And forgive us our greediness, as we forgive them who opened presents early
And lead us not into indigestion
For thine is the Santa, and the reindeer, and the candy, for ever and ever. Noel.-
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- tinfoilnirvana
- 8 months ago
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