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OLYMPIA — In the latest round of what's become almost a winter tradition — conflicts over religious symbols in public places — a group of atheists and agnostics have put up a sign in the state Capitol that says, in part: "Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."

Freedom From Religion Foundation members put up the sign Monday, partly in response to a nearby Nativity scene. They also debuted a billboard in downtown Olympia that reads: "Reason's Greetings."

"Nonbelievers are a part of the fabric of America, and we claim our place at the table to exercise free speech and freedom of religion, which includes freedom from religion," said Dan Barker, co-president of the Wisconsin-based foundation. The organization claims 12,800 members nationwide and 670 in Washington state.

Holiday tradition

Debate over such displays has become a regular occurrence in recent years.

In 2005, Rep. John Ahern, R-Spokane, created a stir when he said the fir tree inside the Capitol rotunda in Olympia should be called a Christmas tree, not a holiday tree. This year's tree-lighting ceremony is scheduled for Friday.

In 2006, there was a brouhaha when Port of Seattle officials took down Christmas trees at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport after a local rabbi requested that an 8-foot-tall menorah also be displayed. After an intense outcry, the Port put the trees back up and a committee determined that in the future, trees, fabrics and garlands could be used, but nothing religious.

Also in 2006, Olympia real-estate agent Ron Wesselius saw a menorah displayed inside the Capitol and wanted to put up a Nativity scene. He was denied because he applied too late for the state to research the issues, according to the state Department of General Administration.

Wesselius, working with the Alliance Defense Fund, filed a lawsuit, the state settled, and he put up a Nativity scene in 2007. He put up another one Monday morning — a few steps from the Freedom From Religion Foundation's sign.

"A little divisive"

"I think people are losing track of what Christmas is," Wesselius said. "It's not about one religion against another religion."

Of the foundation's sign, Wesselius said: "I think they're being a little divisive there in their saying. But they have freedom of speech and equal access."

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Generally, organizations that apply in advance to have a display that isn't considered disruptive or seen as promoting one religion over another are acceptable, said Steve Valandra, spokesman for the Department of General Administration.

Stewart Jay, a University of Washington law professor, says the state's decision appears correct.

Though there is much debate, in general, the law allows symbols from various religions to be displayed in government buildings as long as there's a secular reason for the display — such as celebrating a winter holiday — and as long as the government isn't seen as endorsing one specific religion.

And, once the government allows such a display, Jay said, it cannot discriminate against the message of other groups that celebrate winter holidays in a different fashion — such as by observing the solstice.

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    "reason's greetings", that's a good one!

    DeliaTheArtist
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    i found it pretty clever too

    diode
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    Events such as these could cause many Christians to realize that their religion and culture is indeed under attack. It could even help many Christians across the political and theological spectrum to comprehend that there are some areas in which they have a common interest and cause.

    RCS
    • RCS
    • 7 months ago
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    I don't get it, what does Christmas have to do with Jesus anyway? I grew up celebrating Christmas as a time when I pretended Santa Claus existed in exchange for presents from my parents. Why can't we all just agree that we like stuff?

    Sam_the_Wizer
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    "their religion and culture is indeed under attack" What's the attack? No more monopolizing the holiday season? C'mon, there's enough merriment to go around isn't there?

    DeliaTheArtist
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    I do not seem to understand. Why do people worry about others insulting them, whether it be race religion, or gender? Aren't we all on this planet together? Shouldn't we put our differences aside and work together for the sake of everyone?

    ajiacoysancocho
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    reason's greetings ??
    season's greetings seems like an agreeable enough generic not specifically religious greeting for this time
    of winter solstice which .. let's face it is why christmas
    is late december and not the actual date of jesus' birth. and as far as calling the controversial holiday tree the christmas tree it would be more accurately called the solstice tree

    kyackr
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    "As one way of coming to conclusions, reason is often contrasted to emotion, tradition and faith—the "rationalist" argument being that reason is the more reliable way to arrive at that truth." (From Wiki)

    I'm pretty sure that's the idea they were getting at.

    DeliaTheArtist
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    These signs are important. The atheist message is important. Many, many people say they are Christian in order to please those around them. The more people see that atheism is an acceptable alternative, the more people will be able to abandon religious superstition and myth.

    This is why some Christians are so threatened. Some can not bear to have the atheist position publicly acknowledged.

    unimatrix0

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