As if things weren't bad enough, Russian professor predicts end of US

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Unbelievable ... Apparently, he's been saying this for a decade now.

Although I agree that the US has some tough times ahead, I don't see any way that we could lose our sovereignty to other nations. After all, we still have the most nukes of any other country on the planet.

What does the Current community think?

"For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the US will fall apart in 2010. For most of that time, he admits, few took his argument - that an economic and moral collapse will trigger a civil war and the eventual breakup of the US - very seriously. Now he's found an eager audience: Russian state media.

In recent weeks, he's been interviewed as much as twice a day about his predictions. "It's a record," says Prof. Panarin. "But I think the attention is going to grow even stronger."

Prof. Panarin, 50 years old, is not a fringe figure. A former KGB analyst, he is dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry's academy for future diplomats. He is invited to Kremlin receptions, lectures students, publishes books, and appears in the media as an expert on US-Russia relations.

But it's his bleak forecast for the US that is music to the ears of the Kremlin, which in recent years has blamed Washington for everything from instability in the Middle East to the global financial crisis. Mr. Panarin's views also fit neatly with the Kremlin's narrative that Russia is returning to its rightful place on the world stage after the weakness of the 1990s, when many feared that the country would go economically and politically bankrupt and break into separate territories.

A polite and cheerful man with a buzz cut, Mr. Panarin insists he does not dislike Americans. But he warns that the outlook for them is dire.

"There's a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur," he says. "One could rejoice in that process," he adds, poker-faced. "But if we're talking reasonably, it's not the best scenario - for Russia." Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he says, its economy would suffer because it currently depends heavily on the dollar and on trade with the US."

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100 comments // As if things weren't bad enough, Russian professor predicts end of US

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    i guess i'm moving to Russia

    Manatee_man
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    This is such BS. Pure Russian propaganda. I'd like to see the day where Georgia and Alabama are under Mexican influence.

    Dexcess
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    He obviously doesnt study this country very well. That map makes no sense. he thinks South Carolina will join with the liberal New England? Utah and Idaho with California? nope. Those are just a couple mistakes.

    Plus it would take way more than economic troubles to make this country fall apart. You would need the government to become authoritarian.

    Need I mention the economic boost China gets from the US? So if we were to collapse how could they take over half this country...jeeze this is just absurd.

    I admit this country could fall apart, but were going to need a lot more than a recession to split us up.

    NickerBocker09
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    This is the funniest news I heard this month, well that and Blago, but this is funny.

    tanyetta
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    I think the fall of The United States of America is not impossible but I feel it's a long way off. Think about the other great empires of human history and how long they lasted, then realize the incredible youth of the USA. Power-sharing...perhaps, total collapse doubtful.

    Snuff99
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    I kind of like the idea of Sarah Palin finding herself in Russia!

    Vierotchka
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    I'm all for this, except New England (and maybe New york can join) gets to be its own country ... we're not buddying up with Tennessee and Kentucky

    nazbags
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    It's not totally insane to think that the U.S. is going to have massive restructuring in the next few years, but this conjecture is a little extremist. With so many economies tightly tied together, if the dollar completely collapses like in the predicted model, China and Russia will be just as bankrupt and dilapidated as the U.S. and have no power or resources to rule parts of the country. A very interesting theory, but not really sound.

    TheJellz
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    Tennessee leaves the South to join up w/ New Jersey and Penn and Connecticut... HAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Get ready Yakov Smirnoff, Russian comedy is back!

    Scudettostarved
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    I personally would like to see it return to smaller independent governments. Unfortunately at this point I think the end of the US as a political entity wouldn't result in smaller independent states, but nationwide anarchy.

    Sam_the_Wizer
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    HAHAHA Canada and Mexico HAHAHAHA

    bigloutech
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    Funny!
    The professors an idiot, making hyped-up predictions for political gain.

    For me the punchline is "Canadian Influence" - is that with a mouse in the bottle or not?! ("strange brew" reference for the youth)

    I think were more likely to see world governments, not small independent states.

    matthewcohen
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    I agree with a lot of you, this is pretty laughable. If there's a civil war we all know there's no way the northern and southern parts of California will end up in the same nation. Two states, we want two states!!

    http://www.metrolyrics.com/two-states-lyrics-pavement.html

    digitrash
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    Obama should chin check this dude real quick! Russia has got a little home town pride_and good for them_but despite all of America's problems, our arguments, and finger pointing, it is still the best political system in the world.

    The Founding Fathers had a gift, their work is sheer brilliance. But the country is only as good as its people. WE need to shift the paradigm. WE need to rebuild the ivory towers brick by kick ass brick.

    PUTIN CAN EAT IT!!!

    BLAMM_O
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    Mexico? yeah like that's gonna happen.

    joestick
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    Russias economy, and overall stability is much worse than the U.S. I guess saying stuff like this makes him feel better. When it's just straight up stupid.

    kylercoon
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    Wow, being part of Canada! now I will get the health carre I need.

    dar928
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    Yay independent California!

    FallenMorgan
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    he's mistaken - Russia will break into 50 pieces in mid-2009, with each piece belonging to a US state. The piece containing Moscow, called Donaldduckland, for instance, will belong to Tennessee. Bob Barker and Steve Perry, formerly of Journey, will form a two-man leadership council to oversee the transition, after which the dragon from Tic-Tac Dough will be named Emperor of the new country, which will be called "Jasper 33 of Toledo: The Mongolian Treefrog"

    jogglef
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    lol fear mongering, id love to hear how he calculated the 45-55% chance its going to happen!

    rickm8
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    I had to vote this up due to the hilarity factor. This doesn't speak well for Russian professors.... I'm with JOGGLEF - it's much more likely that each of the 50 states would own their own piece of Russia...

    outtheinside
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    I am related to the former Chief Executive in charge of International Expansion for Standard Oil(AMOCO). Over the holiday, we had a long discussion about this same subject. He agrees with the Russians. He told me, "In 30 years the US will be a third-world country". I know it sounds crazy. But, we can't sustain our way of life anymore. We came out ahead during the Industrial Revolution and we will pay it all back during the era Globalization. By importing our energy and exporting our debt, we have become vulnerable. Once the resources run short, we'll see how sturdy our Union really is.

    bansheewail
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    The man admits that he dislike Americans and his maps seems to be way off.

    The United States does not look like it would collapse but instead slip in power just like Europe did after World War II and rebuild its infrastructure. Plus the US is economically attached to the World Market, other countries would not let it collapse for it would cause a mayhem in the world economy.

    curiously_strong
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    while it's possible that the US could splinter into sections at some point in the future the idea that parts of it could come under the control of canada and mexico is absurd! futher the atlantic south joining with the atlantic north is equally absurd! While groups of states could in the future seperate from the whole and run their own affairs is possible any type of foriegn control is not possible and the notion that the EU could control part of the US is not realistic at all either! This Russian is nuts! prehaps wishful thinking on the part of the Russians? Or the EU? The only way we'd allow any foriegn control of american soil is if we were all dead!

    galwayman
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    This is simply ridiculous. Obviously this professor does not understand that the U.S. does not need itself as a whole to stand strong. Each of our owns states can independently run themselves without help if the shit hits the fan.

    dreamland15
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