Desperate dad in rooftop protest

// added January 08, 2009 // 16 comments //
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A MAN staged a rooftop protest on top of Ashton police station to campaign for the right of dads to see their children.

Glen Macfarlane, 33, clambered on to the roof at 6am on Friday armed with a flask of tea and a placard which read ‘Please Help’.

It sparked a four-hour stand-off as officers tried to talk him down, but the dad refused to budge and demanded to see social services chiefs.

Mr Macfarlane, a self-employed joiner, wanted to highlight calls for improved access rights for fathers.

He claims to have suffered months of frustration over visits to his young son and said he was left with no option but to take such drastic action.

Mr Macfarlane, of Corporation Road, Denton said: "I took my ladder and scrambled up at 6am. No one noticed. Eventually I shouted ‘Good morning’ to a policeman. He glanced up and froze. He ran inside to raise the alarm."

Emergency services were called along with a family liason officer and later a member of social services who agreed to talk to him. Mr Macfarlane, who is estranged from the tot’s mum, has since been in contact with Matt O’Connor, the founder of pressure group Fathers 4 Justice, for advice.

He said: "I can’t begin to explain how horrible it was to be in that situation but when you have been driven to such lengths, it seems like the only option left."

He came down just after 10am and was arrested for causing a nuisance to the public and emergency services.

But the charges were later dropped and he was given a police caution instead. He added: "I’m not proud of what I did. I’ve never been in trouble before, but I have no regrets."
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16 comments // Desperate dad in rooftop protest

  • synclaire
  • BFAM_RVS
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      BFAM_RVS  
    • We have so many systems in the United States that make no sense and only serve to provide hardship and frustration to the public those systems are supposed to help....its great to see that the father in this situation and fathers across the country and world do want to have a place in the lives of their children and to make a positive difference to and for them.....

    • 1 year ago
  • cerealforeal
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
    • 0
      SHAWN_RITTIMAN  
    • More power to the dads that aren't deadbeats! In a lot of cases the fathers only rights are to pay child support or go to jail. If the mother wants to mislead the state to get even with the dad for her own reasons unrelated to abuse, he loses visitation. Bad dads have left a tough act for good ones to follow.

    • 1 year ago
  • Jerseyborn
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      Jerseyborn  
    • If a man has a child and wants to see their child, as long as he is not an abusive man, they should be allowed to see their child. As the social services says, they think of the welfare of the child, well a child needs both parents, not only one and if the father wants to play a role in that childs life, don't take that away from the parent or the kid.

    • 1 year ago
  • Steward2
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      Steward2  
    • part 2 of 2

      The children equal 100%

      Mom is W and Dad is E or Vis-à-vis
      The state has 1/3, mom has 1/3, dad has 1/3
      The state manufactures,creates conflict in order to
      eliminate a parent,of their choosing.The parent of choice to eliminate,aka the states target parent is the one they feel most likely who will stand up,defend against them and the removal of the child(ren) and who will most likely be indebted to pay dearly to remain in the life of their child(ren).
      The state moves forward thru and by their state agencies aka DSS/DCF/CPS to manufacture what they need for the elimination of their target parent.Thus when complete, the state then usurps the 1/3% of that parent ,adds it to their 1/3% Now the state has 2/3% of power and control, which allows them to enact/ become and have triggered state parens patriae interests.
      The state then With 2/3% of the child(ren) the state thru the family court and DSS/DCF/CPS then dictates to the other parent who has only 1/3% as to what they can/cannot do,how,where,why,when and tolerates the other parent they have eliminated and uses that parent(regardless of gender) as a money factor which they use to maintain the states incentives paid to them under Title IV funds.
      The state DSS/DCF/CPS then at it's own whim can enact any or all foster care,adoptions etc. and the children become a creature of the state[[ a legal adoption by a non-biological parent is a creature of the state. Lofton v. Secretary of the Dep't of Children and Family Serv., 358 F.3d 804 (11th Cir.), aff’d 377 F.3d 1275 (11th Cir. 2004)(en banc).]]
      Yielding more incentive funds to them all under Title IV.
      Diamond

      N
      State
      /l\
      / l \
      / l \
      / l \
      / l \
      M \---l-----/ D
      \ l /
      \ l /
      \ l /
      \l /
      children
      S

    • 1 year ago
  • alicynx
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      alicynx  
    • Steward2:

      "The parent of choice to eliminate,aka the states target parent is the one they feel most likely who will stand up,defend against them and the removal of the child(ren) and who will most likely be indebted to pay dearly to remain in the life of their child(ren)."

      Uhh, excuse me, but piss off if you think that one parent is more attached to their children than another is. I would walk through fire for my children and if the State ever tried to take my kids away they'd be facing murder charges as well. I also happen to be Mom. So don't try and make it sound like the State is out to get fathers just because they put up a fight. ALL parents who care put up a fight.

      I think you're way out of touch here with what DHS actually does and how they determine if kids are taken from their parents. I have relatives and friends who all work within the DHS system, and I know for a fact that placing kids into foster care is the absolute last option - its not something they want to do. When they do there is almost always an immediate danger present, usually in the form of drug us, violence, or exposure to hazardous chemicals that require the child leave immediately. Even then, once the parent gets into treatment or things are cleaned up, the kids are put right back with the parents. Keeping kids is not the job, nor the prerogative, of the State. This chart and set of statistics looks like it was pulled out of the author's backside.

    • 1 year ago
  • justadad
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      justadad  
    • Steward2:

      Relative alicynx's comment "kids is not the job, nor the prerogative, of the State;" I think we may be finding overlapping of agreement. Yes, certainly states should be out of the "business" in dealing and/or trafficking in children.

      None the less, I think that we may also be finding indicators suggesting that indeed the "states" are making money "dealing with children," and/or finding rationale for "dealing with children," and/or finding "best interests of children" being served when "dealing with children" -- even be it at ultimate costs, damage and risks to "children."

      If I remember correctly, were not 400 children removed from their "homes" recently in Texas? Do we think that 400 children were at risk and in need of alternative homes? Is state (we the people) interpreting better interests of children with respect to and over church? Or might it have been a select few of state (we the people) interpreting "statute"? What agency rules were being adhered and/or carried-out in accordance with "statutes" of we the people? Due process? Liberty? Any Constitution remaining?

      Remarkably, it seems that a Precarious Pinocchio Principal seems to become more concerning when capable of being fanned/flamed via Money. Yes, incentives and fuel to further destabilize the already present and precarious risks to certain of our once highly regarded tenants for checks and balances.

      Great discussion and string.

      P.S. could it be that those dependent upon a particular money source(s) might be the least capable of evaluating any integrity/legitimacy of such money source?

    • 1 year ago
  • Steward2
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      Steward2  
    • part 1 of 2
      IMO,look at in a diamond shape,N,E,S,W

      The state on the top N declares a vested interest in the child(ren).via Incentives they receive ,located at the opposite end of N is S, the children .

      The judge ,family court is Influenced by the state Agengy,DSS,DCF,CPS thus the judge has a vested interest in the children
      via Incentives they receive ref: www.nccpr.org
      THE PRICE OF PANIC/11
      Any judge
      knows that if he listens to the parent, sends
      the child back home and then something
      goes wrong, his entire career may be in
      jeopardy. If, on the other hand, he listens to
      the lawyer from DCF and keeps the child in
      foster care, the child may suffer all sorts of
      harm, but the judge is safe.
      The deck remains stacked throughout
      the process. In a criminal proceeding, the
      defendant must be proven guilty beyond a
      reasonable doubt. But the standard DCF
      must meet to take away a child and put him
      or her in foster care is “preponderance of the
      evidence,” the lowest standard in American
      jurisprudence – the same standard used to
      determine which insurance company pays
      for a fender bender.

      The incentives for panic that apply to
      caseworkers and judges go all the way to the
      top.

      The federal government lavishes billions
      of dollars each year on foster care.

      Much of it can’t be used for anything else.
      And the foster care money comes as an
      open-ended entitlement. For every eligible
      child, the federal government reimburses 50
      to 83 cents of every dollar spent to keep that
      child in foster care. In Florida this adds up
      to an estimated $140 million per year.30
      The federal government offers far,
      far less for safe, proven alternatives to foster
      care - -and that funding is not an entitlement.

      As a result, the feds wind up spending
      at least nine times as much on foster care
      as on alternatives.31 And the system creates
      a perverse incentive: Though alternatives
      cost less in total dollars, it may sometimes
      cost a state less to throw a child into foster
      care.

      National Coalition for
      Child Protection Reform
      53 Skyhill Road (Suite 202)
      Alexandria VA 22314
      (703) 212-2006
      info@nccpr.org
      www.nccpr.org

    • 1 year ago
  • alicynx
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      alicynx  
    • I think that each case is different and each relationship needs to be evaluated before making any sort of decision. We have no idea if this guy was a fit parent or not; we have no idea if this guy had made threats, treated his ex poorly, or if he was father of the year.
      In the US there are systems in place to help the courts make these tough decisions. I've been through the system for the custody of my daughter, and her father made some serious accusations that I had to spend a lot of money to prove false. Even after that I demanded that he have plenty of quality time with her, even going against what our evaluator recommended. Not every father is left out in the cold, but if there's no money to be spent, then the evaluation will be a lot less fair overall. It isn't the fault of the courts, who have to work in a "one size fits all" world to be fair. If you get married and have kids, the most important things are loving your family and doing what's best for your children.

    • 1 year ago
  • jomahu
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      jomahu  
    • a high percentage of these fathers have been abusive towards their spouses/partners and their children.

      it sucks that a lot more good men have to suffer, but then...the onus is on ALL fathers to take responsibility for the abuse.

    • 1 year ago
  • justadad
    • 0
      justadad  
    • jomahu:

      Yesterday, a blue eyed gay robbed a 7-11 stop and rob.

      Using your logic (which most enlightened members of HHS do), most "blue eyed" individuals are:

      - robbers,
      - gay;

      And, ultimately, the "onus" is on ALL

      - blue eyed, and
      - gays

      To take responsibility for "criminal conduct."

      All others, its a free for all.

      May this be representative of our more compassionate and enlightened "civil" community?

      With sincerity of dialogue, good-will and concern,
      Walter

    • 1 year ago
  • fairness4fathers
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      fairness4fathers  
    • Image...
    • The bottom line is that no one cares about father's. We are expendable and unnecessary in the eyes of the family court, ACS, and social services.

      Other than providing financial assistance for our children, the courts and the feminist movement which controls the courts, has no use for us.

      Any man who entertains the thought of getting married and having a family with the laws the way they currently are, should just shoot himself now.

      It will help him to avoid a slow and painful emotional, mental, and spiritual death.

    • 1 year ago
  • NotFooled
    • 0
      NotFooled  
    • Most of the time its not the courts that are the problem, most of the time its one of the parents that refuse to follow a court order that allows one of the parents to see a child. Unless a parent can prove that the other parent is a danger to their child, the courts should force the parent to allow visitation or remove the child from that parents custody.

    • 1 year ago
  • Steward2
    • 0
      Steward2  
    • Agreed,there are No Options left.
      Family court needs to shape up and make Equal custody the norm or ship out,get out of the lives of families.
      Our children are our posterity,Not the family courts property.

    • 1 year ago
  • mmerijf

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