Farmers Taxed For Animal Flatulence?

Those things have already moved across borders. A hell of a lot of animal products come from China, India, and other countries to here. The prices will go up as transport becomes more expensive and the meat diet will become even more expensive, leading to even less people eating it.

On top of that, meat eating "environmentalists" would have to face the amount of environmental damage going into simply shipping meat and stop as well.

I do understand the horse slaughter point though. But, that stems from the problem of globalization and capitalism- which I also have a problem with- involving exploiting the poor in other countries.

Do you mean to say that you don't own a set of running shoes (made from leather), a cell phone cover (sometimes leather) dressy belt or dress shoes? No eggs, chicken, fish, spam, turkey bacon, etc. No feta cheese or cheese at all. If you use any of these things then you are a hipocrit. What about the epidemic outbreak of ecoli in vegetables, and the new one on peanut butter in ohio. There will always be food poisoning, disease, etc. What do you suppose we do with the white tail deer? They are a herbivore, living on farmers land. If not hunted for food, how do you prevent over population? They breed like rabbits and would soon starve to death due to lack of food. You can't catch them to spay or neuter as this causes them stress and many would be injured in the process and thus "treated badly" How about a pet, confining an animal to an apt could by some be seen an inhumane, locked up for hours, not running free. If you live in a city and look up at the buildings, where does that power come from, coal. While using your computer to write these messages you are contributing to pollution. Nuclear power has hazardous byproducts too. Where do you draw the line. The closest you could come is to be like my Amish friends, but even they are "destroying" the environment by growing what they eat. You have alot of work cut out for you if you choose to fight all of these wrongs, and being in the minority increases the struggle. What do you suppose we do with the cows if you get your way. They would have to be killed to prevent them from reproducing, and spay and neuter is not an option since they would continue to live and produce methane. You can't have it both ways. You can't keep them alive and happy and not polluting. Maybe your efforts would be better spent ending inhumane treatment and not total removal. I think it's unfair to say "stop" to others without offering a realistic solution.

I'm a vegan. So no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no ,no, no, and no. All of the clothing items have vegan alternatives and I don't eat animal products. I don't need to use animals so I don't.

The white tail deer population is easily balanced by their predators, which hunters kill off (in their ultimate success in screwing up the ecosystem for the sake of sport), then act as if they help the deer population by hunting them. The animals do just fine without us.

I ride a bike and avoid supporting the other pollutions you name. But sure, I have a computer that I use to try and raise awareness about these things. I sit here typing in the dark if it's any consolation.

The amount of time it will realistically take to phase out meat will never leave millions of cows just sitting there.

There will always be things we can do more of. People like you always act like they have the ultimate "gotcha" when they realize this. BUt in reality, you're looking for an excuse to keep things the way they are and discount my work.

As for the "humane treatment" movement, you should check out this site and see that it has done far more harm than good: http://www.humanemyth.org

I offer a realistic solution. It just takes work and people being responsible. That threatens some people. But it's not unrealistic, it's just different. You may want to ask yourself why that makes you so angry.

Humane and slaughter are mutually exclusive terms as far as I'm concerned.

While I do agree that taxes can often make things worse, this tax would put people who abuse animals and the planet out of business- something I have no problem with.

So, my support comes from my abolitionist standing. Imagine a world where animal farmers shifted to plant farming. Imagine the reduction in pollution, animal abuse, health problems, and even world hunger.

You eat vegan because it is better for the environment, the planet, the animals, and our health.

Imagine if you had 4000 dogs.

Do we all forcefully breed each other in massive amounts, kill the babies, and dumb shit and piss into the water supply?