The first is Tamsin Osmond, one of 5 environmental protesters from organisation "Plane Stupid" to have been arrested for climbing on top of the Houses of Parliament with a banner to protest against the building of the new runway at Heathrow. Tamsin sees herself as a modern day suffragette resisting authority for the greater good but is she actually prepared to sacrifice her freedom for her beliefs? We film the run up and aftermath of her trial.
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If one is prepared to accept the consequences, then, yes, it is okay to break the law within reason. As long as no person, animal, or natural enviroment is hurt. This groups protest and law-breaking was harmless. Moreover, by getting arrested, they created more publicity and furthered their cause.
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I think that this is absoulutly wonderfull that someone is as passionant about the issues of today as to go so far as to go to prison for what they beleive in, to just star an act of awarness for hopes that it will carry on enough to make a diffrence, now that's having a voice!
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May I remind you guys Plane Stupid's recent protest. Leila Deen, who threw the custard at Peter Mandelson, has since been arrested and bailed to return to police in April.
UPDATE: She was cautioned
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Is it OK to break the law is like asking should I brush my teeth after every meal? Where would the USA if Martin Luther King, Jr. never got tossed into the Birmingham jail? Or Rosa Parks? What of India had Ghandi never got arrested? I read about catholic bishops and how they are addressing pending legislation that would violate the "conscience clause." Once catholic hospitals are forced to provide abortions- 2 things are going to happen: either the hospital will be forced to close (a number of bishops say they have no choice) or the bishops and clergy that keep these hospitals open while refusing to have abortions performed there will be imprisoned. I say no great, positive changes in history have ever taken place without someone getting tossed into jail for speaking out. This is how wrongs are made right!
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Officially in love with Tamsin Osmond. Would love to throw some molotov cocktails alongside her in a bombed out futuristic cityscape.
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- bucketoftruth
- 8 months ago
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This video is using the same argument to justify a benign misdemeanor like trespassing on govt property with banners to justify future acts of property damage and anarchy.
MLK Jr. and Gandhi would never have agreed with this form of "activism" that uses force on other people, and neither do I.
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- lucidstone
- 8 months ago
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Now all we have to do is Protest All wars. Team up with groups involved
See link.
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That Tamsin chick is hot, but she is craaaaaazy!
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- matlaroche
- 8 months ago
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if your a dem your aloud to cheat on your taxes these people are part of the world wide cult of climate change wakos poor dumb fools people are freezing to death right now during this the worst winter in 50 years
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For cryin' out loud, curage! its peepul lyke you that mayk
the rest of us republikkens look lyke iddiots! they say we kant spel, and we don need to giv them a reezin to call us iddeots!! Ur makin us luk bad, curage!!-
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- unclecharlie
- 8 months ago
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"Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience, then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think right."
- Henry David Thoreau, "Civil Disobedience"
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It's ok to break the law when you're bored, want stuff you don't want to have to pay for, or if you feel like going on a killing spree.
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- dirtyemowords
- 8 months ago
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This whole "no 3rd runway" argument is rather dumb to begin with. If people need to fly, they are going to fly no matter if the airport is congested or not. Not expanding the airport isn't going to stop anybody from getting on planes.
Unbridled passion and self-assured certainty in (how can I put this politely) small minded people is a dangerous combination . . .
Pay careful attention towards the end of the video at about 6:45 to see where she plans on taking this "activist movement". Destroying peoples cars and firebombing houses is NOT "right".
There is nothing glamorous or romantic or coy about this. This is a grown woman acting like a child playing games. Look at the level of sheer enjoyment and elation on her face when she's protesting, that's a bit off.
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- lucidstone
- 8 months ago
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Well Current ate my post, AGAIN, so Cliff notes one more time.
@curage and Matriaoche, Uncle Charlie and Lucid stone. Here's it is short, but sweet, and no solo at the end.
You GOP Humorists, yes!, I know, can you guess it ut there in the good old BLUE America? (oxymoron) Yeah!! Get togetherin a room and rehearse. Howard Johnson's has some reasonablly priced basement, sometimes wedding reception rooms, with no live band (too small) Anyway. Highlights.
@Matriaroche, if you haven't learned by now NEVER, and that's EVER use the word "chick" unless it's Easter, and a gift to your kid.
@lucidstone....(AGAIN, with the oxymorons, and in your name!)
You said "nothing would change anyway" and these women were full of "passion" for their cause. Imagine that if you would. When I review your terms and labels it only prompts one label for you fitting both personality traits. Let's see, nothing will change anyway? How do you think the War of Independence was won? Having passion for something outside the bedroom? It's a" weekend quarterback" and I'm guessing you get some excitement (passion) over sports games, etc. There is no world worth living without passion.That's is what separates us human beings from a stage or two lower in evolution.
@@@And to whoever spoke of Ghandi, go to school, and MLK as well. Ghandi practiced and spoke of peaceful co-existence, non-violent change. Well, both of these extraordinary people did however, use the prejudice, hatred and violence for THEIR ULTIMATE PURPOSE. And they knew too well the sacrifices and the suffering that would happen.
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Well, my 2 big peaceful protests were marching with signs to stop the Viet Nam war! I was only like 16! I also wrote poetry about the shame of the showing all the dead US soldiers lined up in 'body bags' every single night where children sitting at the dinner table would begin to cry and lose their appetites. Later, after LBJ's death, His wife (Lady bird-uh yes that was her name) released tapes of him crying and saying, "I don't know how to get out of this without making us look like cowards". So, many of my school mates died so the big USA would not look like cowards. My mother used to say "it takes a braver person to walk away from a fight than to stay in one".
You are all damn right to be passionate about what you believe in. In your work, in your community , in your country and ultimately in the world as we all need each other to survive in a way. The passion to fight evil like Hitler is why we are not speaking GERMAN right now.
I can't imagine what Rosa was thinking that day after YEARS of going to the back of the bus. What courage to stand up to people who might have locked her up or killed her.
We are all protesting in a way through Current but that is not enough as I watched all the people on TV today re-enacting The Boston Tea Party. They say it may spread across the country. They were even Eco friendly by taking it out of the packs and strings so just the tea went out to sea.
On TV, someone just said "What Obama is doing with OUR money is NO different than Maddoff. except we are being robbed AND we know it ahead of time!
My other 'claim to fame?' I went to a women's liberation rally and burned my bra with many others. I kept my shirt on though :) There was modesty in those days, lol
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Lucid rock:
Intelligence comes in 7-8 forms in our brain. I have a high IQ, was able to skip grades in high school . Was the first one in my side of the family to finish college. (I am an RN and take care of Hospice patients.
My three sons are all in the above 130 range but I did not want them in the "gifted' program because I knew many of those kids and their parents and well, uh, I knew that they may be smart on paper, but when it comes to the important areas...emotional skills, verbal skills, social skills, compassion, coping skills-they were entirely lacking.
IQ scores are a farce/she laughs(had to throw that in because its so dumb) About as dumb as telling people you are above 99% of other people. That is very mis-leading. Maybe 99% of others who took the test but not 99% of the USA or any country or the world!
Ever heard of the idiot Savant? Now that is a very good example that our brains can seem to be on a high level in Math, Memory Recollection, Science but to be a well-rounded "genius", I wanted my children to be smart in all the 4 areas that are NOT measured in the current testing modules: Spatial abilities, emotional skills, Social skills, Coping (life skills),and others I cannot recall at the moment.
The idiot Savant intrigues me to no measure. There is a movie coming out in April with Jamie Fox and Robert Downy JR. called 'Soloist'. I think it will be brilliant to those who want to understand that testing for genius is in the dark ages. Like the man who listened to his mother play the piano as a child; I think he was unable to tie his shoelaces or add 2+2=4and yet...one night his mother woke up to the piano playing beautifully, perfectly. From then on she would test him and play beautiful pieces by the finest pianists. He could hear them one time...then play them perfectly.
Remember the "Rain man"? Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman. You may be too young. RENT it and watch it and be amazed at the Idiot Savants.
Most of all, don't pay attention to a number they put on you. I never told my sons what their scores were because it could have provided false intensions, over-confidence and make them loose all social skills because they would think they are better than anyone else. Sort of like you sound so I am glad for that choice. Not being impolite , just giving an opinion based on your post.
My youngest is Director of a software co. in Atlanta that builds Real Estate portfolios for all the properties of J.P. Morgan, McDonalds, and many, many more all over the world. He played SEC baseball at Vanderbilt and then got his MBA at Emory.
My middle son did not make good grades because his mind was going so fast with his ideas, he couldn't be bothered with the limitations of a school day. He can build anything , design anything. Currently, he designs boats for a Hatteras Company. He is the Head Engineer. He has a Master Degree in Mechanical Engineering.
The oldest is an idealist. He was/is a musician. Works for Sony as a sound consultant in CA.Refused to go to college and is a 'self made man'.
A lot of geniuses go mad...Van Gogh for instance.
Fortunately, the greatest things they have accomplished is being good fathers, husbands, sons, friends and full of compassion for all living things.
We have a bunch of people in the country and elsewhere who were never taught "Life Skills". But there is a start as they are about to incorporate "How to balance a checkbook at 5 years old! Unfortunately, we have parents who either provide no guidance or emotional skills or discipline for their kids much less "how to learn to cope and live successfully on this big, blue, turning rock.Some are so busy trying to get rich, the kids are at the bottom of their priority list.
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its fine to break the law, who decides whats right and wrong anyway. we certainly dont when we 'democratically' vote in a leader. as in, we vote them in, and woopie they get to do what the fuck they like for 4 years, and dont think, o i should have voted otherwise, there is no left wing and right wing politics in the western world anymore!
the problem is that , and these are my thoughts, perhaps climate change is mashed into our brain by the media, the IPCC is made up of politians and celebrities and other leading figureheads, and a small number of scientists, stating that sea levels will rise blah blah..
some quick googling will come up with questions backed up from other scientists not saying global warming is not happening, but that it is natural, and the governments' of the world use this to get MOAR MONEY out of you! (we are overdue for an ice age and guess what happens before it gets chilly? its gets hot!)
for example i havent read alot on this site and i cant remember the Url of one i used to check up on daily : http://www.climatechangefraud.com/
they have got some interesting points and there is ALOT of literature on the internet and in published books about this subject.
taking this into account, i think it is plausable that this argument of 'stop climate change now' is put into the media to stop activists looking into other dispicable things that are going on, such as the wholes in the 9.11 report, the ILLEGAL wars we are fighting aroudn the world, and the appauling general social condition of humanity, and no im not a 'conspiracy theorist', that phrase is drilled into our brains to make people who ask valid questions seem less credible. but it is always good to learn things from both angles.
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When laws are designed to hurt us are they not intrinsicly illegal? Are not laws supposed to be enacted for our better good? If they do not serve that purpose why can we not stand up to correct the injustice?
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