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- Music, On Current TV, Current Issue, Current Discussioni, 2 more
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- davegraham Producer,
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- davegraham
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The ones that are the hardest to love are the ones that need it the most.
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- sirpaulmcdarkney
- 8 months ago
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good pod.
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i hate when people act as if loud music is an automatic threat. maybe they really love that song, hey even i'm guilty. i can understand this lady's point of view being a single woman and walking alone, however, if people just want you to turn it down because they don't agree with the certain type of music [and im very anti-hip-hop at times] and just stereotype it in a negative light -- get over it.
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- __BETAHysteria
- 8 months ago
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u don't want to hear people talk?! then just PUT HEADPHONES/EARPHONES ON!!! u can hear ur music, and they can carry on their converstaions. people who play their music outloud don't even think. Their song could have things that people don't want their children to hear like cuss words or references to things. people censor what they say, so you should censor yourself, go buy a pair of earphones, listen to your music, and KEEP IT TO YOURSELF
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- nengin_oregon
- 8 months ago
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yeah, cellphones with half decent speakers built in were the worst invention ever.
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Kids are so annoying. People I go to school with may wear headphones but still turn their music up so loud everyone can hear them... but why would you tell someone to turn their music down? Either ignore them, or maybe start a decent conversation with them about how you think their music is interesting.. just be nice to each other!
I'm a tiny white female... yet walking thru the hoods of philly doesn't scare me... I think this is more of her own personal prejudice than rational fear. People should not be afraid to walk into a black neighborhood! If you treat people with respect they will often be respectful towards you as well.
BTW:
the song at the title around :59-1:02 & throughout the pod is interesting... can anyone tell me the artist/title?-
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- uponrooftops
- 8 months ago
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Yeah I love the music tracks for this film. It's all original stuff, send Dave Graham the director a message about it.
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- charlottegrace
- 8 months ago
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I've had people tell me to turn down my music when i've been listening on headfones.
I'm half deaf so if it ain't loud i can't hear it, I just say that to them and make them feel ashamed.
in 22 years I can tell you it's still so satisfying, they don't know where to look.
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- Owwmykneecap
- 8 months ago
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Hi All
Thankyou for all your comments, i am glad it has evoked a reaction, so many people seem to have something to say on this subject. Making this film was fascinating. It taught me alot about people's perceptions of these kids playing music out loud and the mentality behind kids doing it. I interviewed alot of teenagers during research for this doc and I heard the same thing time and time again. People are scared to speak to them and to ask them to turn their music down through fear of what they might do, in reality if you ask them in a nice way and treat them like normal human beings they will turn it down, if you ask them in an aggressive way then they will react negatively. essentially they are just being young and playing music, its not done to annoy other people, they like their tunes and they want other people to hear them, right or wrong. Unfortunately the way these kids are portrayed in the media has led to people fearing the worst.
Glad you are liking the music on there, its a great track, the details are:
Artist: Foreign Beggars
Track: Hold On (ft. Skinnyman)
Label: Dented RecordsKeep the comments coming
Dave Graham
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- davegraham
- 8 months ago
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A great eye opener!! Both sides well documented! x
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nice one! in the 80s it was the ghetto blaster now the mobile phones! and my question is why do you never hear any bryan adams or metallica on these bad boys! anyway great doc dude! INNIT!
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Its interesting to see that the people who are perceived as being threatening actually come accross as being persecuted as teenagers.
In a London where no one talks to anyone, everyone sits on the bus making assumptions about their fellow passengers and stewing in fear. As few moments to be polite and sociable seems like it could change the world.
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- scootgreenmonkey
- 8 months ago
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Great view from both sides. I am on the fence when it comes to issues like this. It can be intimidating when you are a lone woman walking around in a city. But I used to work with young people and at the end of the day they are often great! It is other peoples misconceptions and prejudice that is the problem.
Great docu!
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i like hte way you conclude that the kids who play music use it as their voice; Not sure that the girl fits into the idea as she doesn;t seem to mind music, and just has general fear
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- lizkessler
- 8 months ago
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Does the doco offend me? No. Good work Dave, from Amandas friend Tom.
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Really interesting seeing the two perspectives beautifully edited juxtaposed. This is more about our prejudice and pre-conseptions about ordinary law-abiding people. Really well done.
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Dave actually pitched this idea to us at the Sheffield Doc Fest Pitch session 2008 - it's an issue that I find incredibly interesting and I'm really pleased that we've finally got a film on Current that addresses it.
What I really wanted was for the film to help us get inside and understand the motivations of the people who play their music out loud. I think he's certainly done that. I love the little anecdote at the end.
I've got to say, in this situation in the past I have asked some 'yoofs' to politely turn it down and got a lot of grief back but they did turn down their volume and change the track to something less aggressive (it was a Monday morning on a packed bus it was pretty grating). They made me feel really ancient but what was really interesting was that even though it was visibly annoying loads of the other passengers, not one of them stepped in to back me up. That was really what annoyed me. Talk about taking one for the team ;-)
Anyway, this film will be part of our forthcoming Breaking the Law Season on Current TV on April 10th and 11th 2009 - keep an eye out for the trailers coming soon and online page coming soon.
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I liked this - it's really nicely done the way the two sides come together in the bus... and it makes you realise that the teens don't mean to be aggressive.
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good to see a view from both sides- Simply, consideration should be given to people around you, especially in confined spaces like buses.
anyway, why the hell would anyone want to listen to poor qulaity of music from the speaker of a mobile....?
a good doc, well made, which many people can relate to (on both sides)..
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It is interesting to hear the point of view of the teenagers who play their music on their phones. What was clear though is that they had a pretty poor argument for doing so. If they did it on a bus I was on I'd find it very irritating.
An interesting idea for a film that gave a balanced view of both sides. It would be interesting to hear more viewpoints by having a larger number of people interviewed.
Oh and I love the Foreign Beggars track. I used it on a film about a fetish wear family. Check it out if you like...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Tx7fhUmng&feature=PlayList&p=D0AD58E465...
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yeah it does offend me - but it was very interesting to hear both sides and to get some insight into why they do it
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I can relate
SWF
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This is a subject that has come into my mind before... it's really interesting to hear the other side of it...
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- hscholfield
- 8 months ago
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I've often wondered why people feel the need to play music loudly through their phones while on the bus – I think its more a teenage thing than a race thing – as you get a lot more teenagers on buses because its free for them. When you're on a train, older people (who should know better) can be just as inconsiderate, talking loudly on the phone and using the carriage as their own personal office. I guess we all irritate each other in some way – just a result of over-crowding in a busy city I guess.
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Wow, I would have never thought that a topic about people playing music loudly on buses from cell phones would be documented.
I guess I am not the only one who has noticed the trend.
I don't know about london, but if you were to tell someone on AC Transit in Oakland to turn down their music, even politely, you better be damn sure to expect a big cuss out at the least.
Kids are so rude and inconsiderate. Headphones were created for a reason!





