Joseph Stiglitz: "It's going to be bad, very bad"

// added April 05, 2009 // 16 comments //
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In an interview, the Nobel Prize-winner and former chief economist at the World Bank talks about the Great Depression, Obama's stimulus package and today's financial crisis.
By Spiegel staff
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16 comments // Joseph Stiglitz: "It's going to be bad, very bad"

  • estee_arie
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • "That's the idea, but it doesn't work. We're just throwing money at them and they pay billions of it out in bonuses and dividends. We taxpayers are being robbed for all intents and purposes in order to reduce the losses that some wealthy people bear. This has to be changed."

      And the CEOs and Execcutives making millions that we the taxpayers are paying? Before Reagan CEOs and Executives were wealthy, not obscenely bloated parasites with billions.
      And the same rich are bellowing like cows about the auto workers maing 40,000 to 69,000 a year with pay and benefits. Its amusing to hear their hypocricy, while they support closing community hospitals because health care is a priviledge. Thats how they are in my red red state, anyway.

      What to do? I was against Geitner because I felt he was too close to the parasites and well fed ticks that caused this mess. Paulson and Bush rewarded them with no strings attached.
      What to do? I write letters to my corrupt legislatures who feed at the table with the people who caused this mess. What more can we do?

    • 10 months ago
  • McCainiac
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      McCainiac  
    • What is this? A communist pity party? Stiglitz and Keynes promote big government, high tax, vodoo economics that have never been proved to work. NEVER. In theory they seem logical, but in theory communism looks logical. When governments interfere, they take out the equation of supply and demand that should stimulate and sustain economic growth. When the govenment stepped in and told lending institutes to ease credit to allow low income people to get mortgages, they artificially manipulated the demand. When the gurus on wall street were able to package bad mortgages and create demand for a product that should have never emerged, the mess manifested and ran out of control. Keynes and Stiglitz believe that by manipulating money supply and interest rates that economies can run correctly. They conveniently ignore the factor of greed for artificially created opportunities. Unortunately the whole system may have to fail to reset itself back to a free market system, but with all the self proclaimed geniuses running the government right now and all their brainwashed followers voting them in, the prolonged economic recession will lead us into a socialistic society which will deincentivecise entrepreneurialship and lead us into a regressive society where the few on top will stay rich and powerful and the other 99.99% will be left shoveling their shit. Welcome to the NWO.

    • 10 months ago
  • Bahai144
  • ejasun
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      ejasun  
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    • $$ We soon will be all part of the "NWO" owned by world bank! No States no Countries just one police state. Sound like a movie no, sounds like our future.
      Have a Day!

    • 10 months ago
  • akamaial
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      akamaial [removed]  
    • Joseph E. Stiglitz, commented in the NYT Opinion column; as posted as a link above

      "THE Obama administration’s $500 billion or more proposal to deal with America’s ailing banks has been described by some in the financial markets as a win-win-win proposal. Actually, it is a win-win-lose proposal: the banks win, investors win — and taxpayers lose."

      "What the Obama administration is doing is far worse than nationalization: it is ersatz capitalism, the privatizing of gains and the socializing of losses. It is a “partnership” in which one partner robs the other. And such partnerships — with the private sector in control — have perverse incentives, worse even than the ones that got us into the mess."

      "So what is the appeal of a proposal like this? Perhaps it’s the kind of Rube Goldberg device that Wall Street loves — clever, complex and nontransparent, allowing huge transfers of wealth to the financial markets. It has allowed the administration to avoid going back to Congress to ask for the money needed to fix our banks, and it provided a way to avoid nationalization."

      "But we are already suffering from a crisis of confidence. When the high costs of the administration’s plan become apparent, confidence will be eroded further. At that point the task of recreating a vibrant financial sector, and resuscitating the economy, will be even harder."

      I absolutely agree, and as a astute acquaintance has so succinctly said - "we are being so f**ked" !

    • 10 months ago
  • titvol
  • unclecharlie
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    • akamaial:

      I truly wish I could say more about this, but I am simply unqualified to render an opinion. I could ask my older sister, she's a big shot in the financial sector....Stiglitz, in that last paragraph above, says it most succinctly......I don't believe at this point, however, Obamanites will ever lose faith in their Dear Leader. The cult of personality is so totally manifested in the media orgy of love that they have for Obama, its sickening.....these folks are no longer able to think for themselves, and to do it rationally.....down the slippery slope we go, when we stop, nobody knows.....
      The last empire to fall was the Ottoman empire, it seems our turn is coming right up- and we have Obama as our captain, refusing despite all the warnings given to him, we have a huge iceberg straight ahead...he ignores the pleas to slow down, because he knows he is "The Anointed One"....what crap.....

    • 10 months ago
  • jahbini
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      jahbini  
    • akamaial:

      Amen Al. (What, did you think I always disagree with you??)

      In the short term, it really does look like B.O. is doing exactly the opposite of what we might have hoped for. However, I am willing to give him more time. I'm not ready to grab the pitchforks -- yet.

    • 10 months ago
  • akamaial
  • 1percent
  • titvol
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      titvol  
    • 1percent:

      Hard to get any ammo. The only 9mm I can find as I speak are high$ cor bon and stuff like that. Can't find any reasonably affordable ammo of anykind anywhere. Everyone is back ordered. Reckon that's part of the plan?

    • 10 months ago
  • Kylsport
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      Kylsport  
    • 1percent:

      Have been rolling over sums of my 401k and the remainder after losing my job into precious metals. They have almost doubled and I have been able to apply for government jobs in the civil engineering industry, which give me some hope. As far as the ammo goes, your best bet is to go to a gun show, where you will find ammo in bulk. I have been stocking up on it ever since our state (AZ) passed a HB that would require the coding of ammo, making it harder to buy and a means of tracking it. You can buy ammo from the gun shows and not ever be asked to provide identification or any documention of any sort.

    • 10 months ago
  • pjacobs51
  • Bahai144
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      Bahai144  
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    • And of course here is a little bit about the system that will work for the entire world and which will eventually and inevitably be implemented and be the sustainable economy we need.

    • 10 months ago
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