Planner of 9/11 attacks, waterboarded 183 times

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WASHINGTON, April 19 (Reuters) - CIA interrogators used the waterboarding technique on Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the admitted planner of the Sept. 11 attacks, 183 times and 83 times on another al Qaeda suspect, The New York Times said on Sunday.

The Times said a 2005 Justice Department memorandum showed that Abu Zubaydah, the first prisoner questioned in the CIA's overseas detention program in August 2002, was waterboarded 83 times, although a former CIA officer had told news media he had been subjected to only 35 seconds underwater before talking.

President Barack Obama has banned the use of waterboarding, overturning a Bush administration policy that it did not constitute torture.

The Justice Department memo said the simulated drowning technique was used on Mohammed 183 times in March 2003. The Times said some copies of the memos appeared to have the number of waterboardings redacted while others did not.

The Senate Intelligence Committee is investigating the CIA interrogation program, which under President George W. Bush also included slamming prisoners into walls, shackling them in uncomfortable positions and depriving them of sleep.

Bush administration officials had claimed such methods were needed to get information but the repeated use of the waterboard on Zubaydah and Mohammed were sure to raise questions about its effectiveness. (Writing by Bill Trott; editing by Chris Wilson)
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64 comments // Planner of 9/11 attacks, waterboarded 183 times

  • masliko
  • marklemagne
  • Houstrino
  • Mymicz1
  • Hendrix_Is_God
  • asherp
  • Highr0ller
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    • continued:

      Biography
      Michel Chossudovsky is the author of the international best-seller "The Globalisation of Poverty " published in eleven languages. He is Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Center for Research on Globalization which hosts the critically acclaimed website. He is also a contributor to the Encyclopaedia Britannica.
      Michel Chossudovsky is the 2003 Recipient of the Human Rights Prize of the Society for the Protection of Civil Rights and Human Dignity, Berlin, Germany.
      He is seven times recipient of the Project Censored Award, Sonoma University School of Journalism, California. 2000 (double award), 2001(double award), 2002, 2004, 2005). His website, Global Research (Canada) was granted the Democracy Media Award in 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 by GoodWriters.net

    • 10 months ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • AMERICA'S "WAR ON TERRORISM"

      by Michel Chossudovsky

      In this new and expanded edition of Michel Chossudovsky's 2002 best seller, the author blows away the smokescreen put up by the mainstream media, that 9/11 was an attack on America by "Islamic terrorists". Through meticulous research, the author uncovers a
      military-intelligence ploy behind the September 11 attacks, and the cover-up and complicity of key members of the Bush Administration.

      The expanded edition, which includes twelve new chapters focuses on the use of 9/11 as a pretext for the invasion and illegal occupation of Iraq, the militarisation of justice and law enforcement and the repeal of democracy.

      According to Chossudovsky, the "war on terrorism" is a complete fabrication based on the illusion that one man, Osama bin Laden, outwitted the $40 billion-a-year American intelligence apparatus. The "war on terrorism" is a war of conquest. Globalisation is the final march to the "New World Order", dominated by Wall Street and the U.S. military-industrial complex.

      September 11, 2001 provides a justification for waging a war without borders. Washington's agenda consists in extending the frontiers of the American Empire to facilitate complete U.S. corporate control, while installing within America the institutions of the Homeland Security State.
      Chossudovsky peels back layers of rhetoric to reveal a complex web of deceit aimed at luring the American people and the rest of the world into accepting a military solution which threatens the future of humanity.

      The last chapter includes an analysis of the London 7/7 Bomb Attacks.

    • 10 months ago
  • Mymicz1
  • ChrisWT
  • Robroy1
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      Robroy1  
    • I agree that this sounds more like Israhell than America, but then again DumbYa was in charge and he is equally as evil as Nutinyahoo. Torture does not work and this article is proof. Now maybe Israhell will realize it and quit torturing human beings.

    • 10 months ago
  • Sexirobot
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • Torture doesn't work on the tortured, It only keeps people (our people) in fear of our own government, because when it is allowed to keep going what would stop such a government to torture lets say a political prisoner who didn't side with the same government. If something isn't done about this black mark on our history, then I fear for us and our people CIA and military in future conflicts.

    • 10 months ago
  • clownpuncher
  • onemalefla
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      onemalefla  
    • 183 times and he is still healthy and alive?
      Doesn't seem like true torture to me.
      Do not get me wrong, torture is wrong at any level. But all the publicity I have seen about the terror of water torture has been nullified by the amount of times this POS has been thru it. Hook a set of battery cables to him and tweek it 183 times. His heart will give out.
      He admitted to planning 9/11 b4 he was even tortured.
      Did we get anything else out of him with this?
      If anybody thinks this is the first time this great nation has used torture, you are sadly mistaken. My uncle told me what they used to do with the N. Vietnamese when they interrogated them.
      They would take 4 up in a chopper and hover at 200 feet.
      Before asking any questions they would toss one out of the chopper. They would then ask the 1st question. The other 3 would talk so much the G.I. s would threaten to toss another out to shut them up.
      It is easy to sit back and judge, which we jaded citizens do constantly.
      Until you are put in a situation of kill or stop the killing, you should not judge. t On the day of 9/11, I seriously doubt there was not one American who would not have tortured and killed any one of the conspirator's, if they were apprehended.
      Have we really forgotten the suffering of that week after only a few years?

    • 10 months ago
  • Ares
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      Ares  
    • onemalefla:

      I'm behind you 100% here, mate, but I just wanted to clarify on one of your questions. Waterboarding does not place the prisoner in any life-threatening danger, it merely creates the sensation of drowning. It is a horrific experience but there is little risk of injury or death.

    • 10 months ago
  • unclematt
  • 200131294
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      200131294  
    • Though its use is questionable, I simply can not feel sorry for this man. Quite simply, I don't care if he was water boarded 2 times or two hundred. It has got us usefull information in the past but it has also sent use down false roads. But when Obama released this report, it only helps the terrorists because now they know we won't use very harsh techniques in interrogating.

    • 10 months ago
  • Nephwrack
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      Nephwrack  
    • remember that we're going on the bush administrations word that it was this sheikh mohammed guy, they said it was him, doesn't make it true.

    • 10 months ago
  • jeckersly316
  • crob80227
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      crob80227  
    • How many man-hours were spent by the military chasing down FALSE leads blurted out by low-level nobody’s under torture? Did we waste 3 weeks investigating that worthless intel obtained under torture or was it closer to 3 months? How much MONEY did we waste in paying CIA analysts to track down phony leads that some low-level nobody blurted out in desperation while we were ass-raping, I mean, “aggressively interrogating” them in GitMo. S’funny how THOSE statistics are never released.

      (Note to Tea Party tax protesters: GitMo wasted a whole lotta money over the last six years.)

      Now obviously when someone is waterboarded on the 102nd time they will say something – anything! – in order to get you to stop. Soooo…what’s the point? I could waterboard any soccer mom off the street and get the same worthless gibberish.

      “Where’s Osama?!?”

      (glup! glup!) “Okay! Okay! He’s, uh, he’s, uh, living in Tucson Az in the Sunset trailer park!”

      “Finally! Send 1,000 agents to the Sunset Trailer park immediately! We got’em boys! We finally got’em!”

      Um…..no. You don’t got’em. W

      I mean seriously….didn’t ALL the accused witches in Salem eventually confess after they were “aggressively interrogated”?

      The lesson here is that there is no fast Jack Bauer-esque method to instantly figuring out the bad guys plans. It takes actual detective work. The idea that (like Batman in the comic books) you can just grab some mugger off the street, punch him in the face once time, and then get a detailed explanation of Al-Qaida’s operating structure, Swiss bank accounts and complete list of secret locations is pure fantasy. Which is probably why those scenarios have up until recently existed exclusively on cheap made-for-tv movies, cheesy 1980’s Chuck Norris films and comic books.

      Speaking of which, I’m going to add “Red Dawn” to my Netflix queue.

    • 10 months ago
  • Sundance02008
  • crob80227
  • Saladin
  • Jacques_of_Spades
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  • Mount_Zion
  • Mymicz1
  • Mymicz1
  • masterzip
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      masterzip  
    • Image...
    • The new "Guernica" images for the whole world to see...
      These will be long lasting images in everyones consciousness that illustrate the un-american values that so many of us cling to.
      http://www.zombietime.com/botero_abu_ghraib/

      Protecting National Security should have been protecting prisoners, and protecting ourselves from not looking like Nazi death camps.

    • 10 months ago
  • yonie
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • Does anyone remember how during the election they were playing up his trial and then after it was over, POOF, media silence?

      Whatever happened to this guy anyway?

    • 10 months ago
  • slarabee
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      slarabee  
    • Redeeming ourselves will be a long and difficult road. The first time someone attacks us the proponents of this type of vile behavior will say "see". That is why I do not think just airing the facts is good enough. This requires a reckoning.

    • 10 months ago
  • clownpuncher
  • slarabee
  • Ichi
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      Ichi  
    • So... the million dollar question of the day is, was it a fact that this man actually planned the 9/11 attacks before he was captured by government officials, or did they "find out" he was behind it all sometime in between the 183 times this guy was waterboarded?

      Twist someone's finger long enough, and they'll tell you anything you want to hear.

    • 10 months ago
  • clownpuncher
  • Ichi
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      Ichi  
    • Ichi:

      Well, it's not so much spending a lot of time inside a liberal classroom. It's knowing that inflicting physical/emotional pain and stress on someone for prolonged periods of time will give you any answers you seek without fail.

      Is that reliable?

    • 10 months ago
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • Ichi:

      I thought about that myself, but I figured it would be best to operate on the presumption that the admission of guilt is real at the very least until I hear a plea reported that he was coerced into the confession and didn't have anything to do with it.

      Until then, I'm not going to give any credence to a "conspiracy" counter argument.

    • 10 months ago
  • Ichi
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      Ichi  
    • Ichi:

      That is fair enough. But again, my response has nothing to do with conspiracy so much as psychology. I am not saying that this man didn't commit a horrible crime. But I am questioning the use of torture to retrieve reliable information from someone.

    • 10 months ago
  • Venom7
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      Venom7  
    • How do you know the man didn't just say whatever the people torturing him wanted to hear?

      If you were being tortured EVERY DAY until you admitted your guilt, would you do it?

    • 10 months ago
  • slarabee
  • rockstarmillionaire
  • slarabee
  • cybexg
  • ClipsFC
  • lucidstone
  • Eleganza
  • iamfree
  • Sundance02008
  • ashcatash
  • eldamon
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      eldamon  
    • Wow, they are either really fast at that water boarding thing or they just kept doing it for fun after he broke in under a min as they said. OR the lied through their barbaric, under handed, law breaking, backward ass teeth - AGAIN!

    • 10 months ago
  • Eleganza
  • lucidstone
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  • Hammerchop
  • Eleganza
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      Eleganza  
    • The question that we have to ask of ourselves is this...What would our response be if these revelations were concerning the interrogation of a captured American soldier....this is the problem with torturing people, you lose all moral authority to prosecute and punish others for doing it to your own...as well as not getting reliable information...I can tell you that the thought of someone putting a blow torch to my nuts would make me tell them things that I don't even have knowledge of, if I thought it would make them stop.

    • 10 months ago
  • ClipsFC
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • I'm very much against torturing even the worst of the terrorists . . . but did they really have to use the worst of the terrorists as an example?

      I find it hard to be sympathetic for the guy that planned the sept 11 attacks . . . though waterboarding and other forms of torture definitely shouldn't be going on in US detention facilities. We should be above that.

    • 10 months ago
  • Mymicz1
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    • lucidstone:

      Neither should prison rape, but it does. I wonder if Roxana Saberi knows what that feels like right now. Plus, I am totally against interrogative torture, it is useless, and inhumane in any sense. But If a guy admits he killed 3,000 people before torture, maybe I'd kick him in the balls a few times with a stilletto on.

    • 10 months ago
  • charfman
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      charfman  
    • It's sad that America has stooped so low...
      This is what happens when we're no longer one nation under God...
      Freedom comes with responsibility...

    • 10 months ago
  • Nephwrack
  • clownpuncher
  • ClipsFC
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      ClipsFC  
    • President Barack Obama has banned the use of waterboarding, overturning a Bush administration policy that it did not constitute torture.

    • 10 months ago

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