Islam in the NYPD

US mainstream media is the number one problem in stigmatizing Muslims and Islam in general.

Most people in America did not know anything about Iraq, Afghanistan or even Saudi Arabia.

Granted that prejudice against Muslims (really Arabs and Iranians) was always there (Hollywood movies), since 9-11, the media has done a great job indoctrinating people with fear of anything Muslim.

SouthernMuslimBelle,

The 9-11 hijackers who committed these crimes were Arabs.

This is no coincidence. Most of what people describe as problems between Muslims and the US are actually between Arabs and the US.

Bin-Laden and co have explained clearly why they attacked. Bin-Laden and co wanted US troops out of Saudi Arabia and the end of violent US hegemony in the Gulf. This talk about fanatical Muslims wishing to control the world or the US is non-sense and is propaganda. Bin-Laden and co are fanatics and so are US officials who wish to dominate millions of people in the Middle East against their will.

If Bin-Laden is a monster who has no regard for innocent lives (which is true), what would Madeleine Albright be when she said that "the lives of half a million Iraqi babies" were "worth the price"? Albright is often referred as "The Honorable Ablright".

The US government and its apologists want to frame this geo-political conflict as some ideological/religious conflict in order divert the attention from their "imperialist" policies set up to dominate of the follow of Arab oil.

Henry Kissinger once stated that "Oil is much too important a commodity to be left at the hands of the Arabs".

Many policies of the US government are formulated to maintain political and economical control over the oil in the Middle East and that often translates to policies that undermine the will of the people of the Middle East. The policy is no different than the imperialism of the 20th century.

In 1953, when most Middle Eastern countries were still colonized, the CIA of the US government led a coup that toppled the elected Iranian prime minister and installed the authoritarian Shah to serve their interests. Policy goal: prevent the legitimate Iranian government from nationalizing their own legitimate oil resources.

The US government, with its unchallenged impunity, needs to be held accountable for what it has done in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world.

Bin-Laden co will be tried if caught by his own country.

Who will put US officials on trial?

Okay. I do not like extremism either. It is actually forbidden in Islam. Now, those "extremists" who want to kill the infidel (no such word in Arabic) were created by our governments. Believe that. Bank on that. Ka-ching.

Insightful comment about organized religions.

Something that most people do not understand about Islam is that Shariah is applied to the Muslim people only. No worries, my friend. Plus, Muslim themselves are not even ready for Shariah, so God will not even permit it. No worries.

k/m, that all of life's complications can be laid at the feet of 'Bush' as far as you concerned has been clearly established, but man, get a grip will ya? This insidious dismantling of the freedoms of all societies has been ongoing for decades by a repressive faith that has stifled mankind in the name of Allah for centuries...in my opinion,if it were not for oil, they would still be in the dark ages.

Last time I looked, I didn't find even one Christian group blowing up people in and buildings in 87 diffent countries. That's why I do NOT believe that Islam is just another religion. It attracts people of violence because it doesn't just allow violence, it wants violence. It teaches murder to little children and encourages hatred and death to all who don't believe in it. The last time Christians did things like that was about 600 years ago. The last Islam did that was yesterday and today. They will also not complain when their fellow Moslems bomb people anywhere for any reason. I am not fooled by calling just another one of the religions. It isn't.
The Koran says clearly that people must kill the non believers. Jesus did not chop off the heads of 600 Jews and tell all to love one another at the same time.
Mohamed did do that and it is written directly in the koran.
Jesus did not say that men should treat their wivers like slaves. But in the koran it says straight out, directly, not from a commentator, "A woman's paradise is under her husband's foot."
Please do not refer to this as just another religion.
They believe in the koran and in the koran they are taught that when they kill people who do not believe in Allah, they go to heaven and win the attention of 72 sixteen year old virgins. Therefore, many of them are encouraged by that and they go out to kill people and they do, and when they do that, they are called heroes or martyrs.
I don't know of any religion that teaches its people to go out and kill so that they will go to heaven for the murders.

Abraham99, are you not paying attention? There are Christian terrorists like Eric Rudolph who blow up abortion clinics, fanatical groups like the Lord's Resistance Army in Africa, and Christian extremists in the US military (Grainer beat prisoners in Abu Ghraib and told them he would not stop until he prayed to Jesus)

The Quran does not say what you claim, quit peddling your narrowminded lies.

Take this pill and swallow it, perhaps it will free your mind and cure you of your ignorance...however if you are fundamentalist Muslim, the cancer of your spirit and soul is beyond healing....allah akbar...BWAHAHAHA

http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam101/

mr100%:

Christianity hasn't cornered the market on nuts. There are flakes and nuts in every group but they don't speak for the group.

In Islam there are a few nuts, too.... a few million, and they're deadly and violent and will kill at the drop of a hat. They try to impose their will on everyone else and their goal is for Islam to rule the world and they have no intention of stopping until it happens. If you would open your eyes you would see this. It's as plain as the nose on your face....

Did you see Religiouslous? When he interviewed the Muslims, they were rabid with intolerance. They get angry if you question the fact that they may not be the one true religion.
Like the Fundamentalist, they are a huge threat to separation of church and state and tolerance.

I do see the irony of your comment

Nothing wrong with Muslim Po-lice.

Give me a break. You have a great example of a patriotic American Muslim, and all you can do is criticize him and say he's suspicious based only on his religion. Take your intolerance elsewhere

mr100percent, I believe that either you are an advocate of Islam or very ignorant of it. I know about of which I make my stand, do you?

You call that an argument?
Tell me about these Muslims in America who don't assimilate. Where's your proof?

And how does this relate to Imam Khalid in the video? I've actually met the man and he's a great role model for Muslims, and something you should encourage rather than brush off.

mr100percent, I'm not arguing anything with you, that you dislike my opposition to Islam is clear, and matters not at all to me.
Also it would not matter what proof I can provide, you would contend with me about it because you believe otherwise.
Do your own research if you doubt my position. Prove me wrong.

hard to prove you wrong when you make a claim without evidence.

My proof you're wrong is this pod itself. Here is Imam Khalid Latif, an outstanding American Muslim who the NYPD stands behind as an example of patriotism and American and New Yorker values. I've met him personally and feel immediately at ease around him. He condemns violence and embodies the best parts of Islam. All you have in response are islamophobic canards. I think the facts stand for themselves.

>>hard to prove you wrong when you make a claim without evidence.

Can you add anything new to this islamophobia of yours, instead of this oft-repeated NON-sense? Can you start by: Stop accusing Islam of what your guilty of?

Since when have American Muslims had a problem integrating into mainstream society? You would do better at accusing the Amish. Any cursory study of Islam would reveal what Muslims believe is in control of there lives, but you persist with this over the fence gossip.

You ask, "Will this young Imam abide by the credence and laws of this land", I put it to you, that the very reason his an Imam in the NYPD is because he is an exemplary law abiding citizen, is that not obvious? Where is your evidence that American Muslims as a group are not law abiding?

Indeed Islam is a religion of peace, the problem Americans and the like have is that Islam does not advocate the practice of turning the other cheek. When an individual, as in the example of Christ, turns the other cheek it is quite admirable and considered an act of piouty, but when a society is asked to turn the other cheek, that is a recipe for slavery and oppression. Your fight for independence is a fine example of this, but you insist to deny others the same rights you hold dear to yourselves and this is one of the biggest objection the rest of the world has, "the hypocracy of your democracy".

WORLDWIDE? What do you and your countrymen know about WORLDWIDE? You want to lambast muslims and islam for there beliefs yet Palestinians everyday have to face American weaponry which props up a terrorist state founded on religious precepts. Every day Iraqis wake up to the fact the Americans signed oil deals before signing the deals for a way forward to bringing peace in there country. Everywhere American interest is heard, people live in fear of there lives, whether its in South America, Africa, Middle East or Far East. What do you know about WORLDWIDE?

Can you be honest about it all? Can you admit that this is all about sucking the rest of the world dry so that you can live your "first world" existence off the resources of the "third world"? Stop dressing up your corporate conquest in the mini skirt of peace and democracy.

Why? Here is a tip of the iceberg :

Wahhabism in the U.S.
~The ideology of Saudi hardliners is, unfortunately for Westerners, of great relevance, even inside the U.S. One doctrine of Islam dominates in Saudi Arabia--Wahhabism, which is the most extreme, violent, separatist, and expansionistic form of Islam in existence today. It not only lashes out at the West, but seeks to take over and impose a rigid conformity on the entire Muslim world.
~What then of America? Islam was new in the U.S. in the 1980s and 1990s. Then, because of changes in the immigration laws, the American Muslim community suddenly became much larger. Most Muslims who came here were not Arabs. The plurality have been from Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh. As Islam emerged as a major religion in the U.S., it--unlike other American sects--did not have an establishment. A disparate group of Muslims arrived and established mosques in various places. They represented different ethnic groups and lacked any structure to bring them together and unite them. That situation did not last long, however, because the Saudis decided to create an American Islamic establishment based on the radical doctrines of Wahhabism. In order to bring this about, they created a system of organizations that would speak for American Muslims to the government and the media and through the educational system and the mosques.
~One can learn a lot about how the Saudi-backed Wahhabi establishment in the U.S. works by looking at how it came to speak for all of Islam in the American media. It did this by creating a set of organizations. One of the most prominent is called the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). This group allegedly was set up to be a kind of a Muslim version of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League. That is, its stated goal was to protect Muslims against prejudice and stereotypes.
~There are other such groups. One of them is called the Islamic Society of North America. It is controlled directly from Saudi Arabia, and openly owns 250 of the 1,200 main mosques in the U.S. This, though, is just the tip of the iceberg. My research suggests that a full 80% of American mosques are under the control of the Saudi government and Wahhabism. This does not mean that 80% of American Muslims are supporters of Wahhabism--only that their mosques are controlled by the Saudi Wahhabis. There is a wide range of such organizations. Many we do not hear much about, including some of the worst. For example, the Islamic Circle of North America, which acts as a kind of extremist militia, has a very bad reputation for threatening, intimidating, and enforcing conformity in the Pakistani Muslim community.
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/the_muslim_mainstream_and_the.html
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http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMLJJEDDDGc&NR=1
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Want more.? I could send thousands to you and you'd still deny it...go figure, huh?

I have to say you are slightly off in your interpretation. Yes there are many American Muslims who are ready to assimilate and A LOT of them do. But it seems when some of them do, they lose their identity, they lose their faith. They trade in being a Muslim for being an American. It has nothing to do with "Islamists" (whatever that is) not "allowing" them. I'm an American born Muslim convert and no one has ever not allowed me to say listen to mainstream music or shake hands with a woman (some extremist views say this is forbidden). But at the same time I have a beard, I wear a kufi and I perform the duties of my faith. And to answer your islamophobia, Islam IS a religion of peace. The actions of extremists (even if extremism is a slight majority) do not change the facts and foundations of my faith. To say Islam is not a religion of peace is to say that America isn't a country dedicated to peace because of the death penalty and our constantly going to war. Think about it. Get educated about Islam. You have a wealth of information at your fingertips.