Some at Notre Dame say no to Obama

Unless you pay a sport ND has no use for blacks. It will always be that way until the old men die out.

So sorry UncleCharlie but you need to read the history of your own church, if you are indeed Catholic. That was not my idea, it is common knowledge among historians and is also available to read in the Talmud of the Hebrew religion. During the middle ages the soul was thought, by the church, to not be present at conception but come some months later to the fetus, a process called, by the church (spelling unsure) soulification. I am neither for nor against abortion but rather think it should be the sole decision of the woman concerned.

Don't forget that a large percentage of the Catholic bishops in the United States have not spoken out on this non-issue. There are more than 140 R.C. dioceses in the U.S. and most bishops have more important things to do.

I wish Obama would speak at my commencement. I don’t know what these Catholics problem is.

I can't believe people make such a big deal over pro-choice...let us read this word together "pro" and then "choice." I am glad we have a president that is for choice. This doesn't mean you have to have an abortion if you get pregnant. It means you have the choice. Thats it, thats what all this non sense is all about.

This controversey was shameful and fabricated by the media. Indiana went for Obama. Notre Dame extends this same invitation every year to the standing president. Many have reciprocated by taking the honor. Protests like this will no longer make that an honour. It is the ideal that if you go to Notre Dame you walk with giants, you are a part of a great American Tradition.

Protestors also met Ronald Reagen even though he had played a Notre Dame star, in film and gave the famous line, "Go out there and win one for the Gipper!" In fact every presidential commencement adress is met with protests. However none of that was shown in context on the cable news as usual!

stand above, their going into attack mode AGAINST our #1 freedom. your an idiot, typical liberal, and theres just as many conservatives the same

killer i hope thats a joke lol

RON PAUL 2012

And killerkitty look at the leader of the free world. We did that liberals. YES WE CAN! so how are we the racists?

Rick liberals go into fucking attack mode to save your freedoms.

they r just racist

HEY! HEY! the best part to me about all of this, is how liberals claim to be super open minded and accept others (gay marraige, right to choose, etc.) and now when people choose to support a different opinion on a topic THEY GO INTO FUCKIN' ATTACK MODE lol

its just absolutely pathetic on this site, the holier-than-thou attitude is complete hypocrisy within this forum, liberals tend to be MORE closed minded

all of this is from someone impartial, a libertarian

i feel that it is GREAT that they did this, it is a PRIVATE university, and they should feel free to do as they wish.

True. When it comes to the advancement or preservation of a people religion, myths and beliefs should remain separate. People who are too closely identified by their beliefs (personal assumptions) cannot allow the emergence of conflicting truths (proven facts).

seperation of church and state

Wow, I don't blame them, I would not want Obama bin Lyin' speaking at my event either.

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Ok look I am going to sum it up for all of you. The Catholic point is this if you keep killing fetuses. Then the church will have less kids to rape and send to war!

I am recovering Catholic.

Intellectually open minded, I find the Catholic origins and current stances at odds with the real world. their history repeats their folly decade after decade. Find it in the statistic of how many people are leaving that religion. Christianity along with Islam is just a way to make money and to keep people in line.

Only a misguided statist (liberal or Democrat) would make this a political issue. It is about a belief.

The protesters have an absolute right to do their thing. Obama represents the antithesis of what they believe in. Personally I don't see how anyone can be in favor of killing children yet rail in favor of gun control, against war, or for even murder laws. Roe should be overturned as bad Constitutional law and relegated to the states where it belongs. In my world this is a question between the mother, father and doctor. I am not in favor of unfettered, 14th Amendment protected access to abortion.

I have noticed that the stance of the left is to abdicate any moral standards in favor of a position that maintains "everything is OK". The problem is that they foist this on everyone else.

For those of you who keep on slamming Bush for the problems of the universe, he was a much, much better president than Obama has been yet or promises to be in the future.

THIS IS WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT, ITS OKAY TO DROP BOMBS BUT NOT TO HAVE AN ABORTION!!

ITS OKAY TO FORCE FEED SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN DIAGNOS AS BEING BRAIN DEAD BY THEIR MEDICAL DOCTORS BUT NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR ALL.

I hope to attend Notre Dame, and I am indifferent on the matter. In this age everyone is nitpicking for every little thing they do not agree with, and I don't agree with it. Talking about it doesn't change the fact that it's going to happen unless something drastic forbids him from giving the seniors words of wisdom to use as they start their lives. I myself feel like everyone is way too uptight and these 'issues' are merely gossip for the masses and are distractions from truly pressing matters.

It seems strange to me that the church existed for about 1,700 years before abortion was considered murder. During the middle ages abortion was considered a sin but a lesser sin than fornication. The main reason it was considered a sin was because it was frequently used to cover up fornication.

The fetus was not considered a person until the soul has entered the body, this was supposed to have taken place several months after conception and was earlier in male fetuses than in female. The church makes up new rules as time passes.

Forget your opinion on the issue of abortion for a moment...

The Catholic church sees abortion as murdering children. It's not an issue they take lightly; nor would anyone who believed their leader was supporting infanticide.

Boycotting the event is an effective form of protest by the Catholic leadership at a traditionally Catholic school.

The fact that anyone is surprised here is beyond me...

Also, the nation is a politically-minded publication just looking at the political side of every issue. The whole hammer looking for nails thing. To think political leaders orchestrated this is borderline absurd, again given how strongly most Catholic leaders already feel about abortion...

regardless of the issues, I feel it is important to afford people in public office a basic respect. Although I disagreed with many of Bush's policies, and am myself a Democrat, I would have still liked to have heard him speak. The man was POTUS, for goodness sake.

I take heart in the whole episode. It is good people are protesting and it is good people are free to say they don't like the protesters. The whole thing is but a healthy expression of our messy democracy.

Yes we can.

Why is everyone bashing a few citizens at Notre Dame for protesting? Are they not exercising their free speech? Isn't that what once separated us from other nations and made us great?

It only gets scary when citizens are not allowed to peacefully protest. When rival politicians and harmless priests are being dragged off to jail.

It seems every other thread on Current is about protests from different groups with political differences. But in the end that is what we have in common, our free speech, our rights. We should at least be united in that.

There was not one event that President Bush attended without some group protesting on site. It's always been that way. It will be the same with Obama. The only difference is what protests the media chooses to highlight or make fun of. And that depends on whether you love MSNBC and their left wing views or if you love Fox News and their right wing views. Or if you love any other media outlet, because they all have a political slant, every one of them.

Proof that even the highest education doesn't equal intelligence.

Yeah, "fuck Catholics," that's a *great* way of promoting acceptance of people who's beliefs differ from your own.

What happened to respect? People like Alan Keyes going to a university and getting arrested protesting, because OUR president is giving a speech, is just wrong. Why should politicians go to universities to reek havoc because OUR president was asked to speak? He’s not going there to discuss abortion.

Many politicians find their wedge issues and use it to the extreme. It all comes down to respect. One would think, universities would be a place of learning. Respect shouldn't have to be a course, but maybe it would be a good idea.

The country is divided. We are spun daily by politics. Politics has distorted our moral values to the point of American against American. They no longer work to unify the country, they spin 'talking points' and wedge issues.

Maybe it's time for ordinary Amerians to take back our country and stop being spun by politicians who are working for their next election, using divisive wedge issues, to gain votes, or notoriety.

Isn't it funny that there was no problem having a war criminal President George Bush deliver a speech. A million dead and 5 million refugees and torture, oooopps I forgot these are catholic values and the name crusade made them excited.

I think it's not a surprise for this venue. I'm pro choice, but I wouldn't go to a place that is clearly pro life and not expect any backlash.

I think that prominent republican Catholics have exercised influence with Catholic bishops in order to stir up resentment and resistance to Obama based on the Abortion issue. It is shameless to say the least.