Calif. high court upholds gay marriage ban

LOL, we totally posted this at the same time.

But yeah, this is total shit! I can't believe it stayed. I'm way pissed.

Damn, I posted this as well.

Anyways, not surprised by the ruling.

Just have extra work for the summer.

On another note, I think I remember that altercation (referring to the picture) O-o

Never thought I'd be saying this but here it is:

California, take a lesson from Iowa!!!

I just don't see why other people should have a legal say on two people who want to get married...it's a personal decision, the whole state shouldn't be in on it....life is too short to try and make a bunch of people miserable, especially when their decisions don't affect you in any way

When gays are the majority they will vote to ban traditional marriage.
we live in a tit for tat society.

Someday, people will realize that this expression of legal homophobia is no different than the racist and sexist laws our country experienced in the past, and worked hard to overcome. Unfortunately, the 2000's will be remembered as the decade America TRIED to allow all it's free citizens the same civil rights, but FAILED.

Disgusting prejudices still abound in our great nation.

Every sick and twisted American who takes joy in this decision should have their own civil rights taken from them and see how they like it. Shameful.

Marriage and Intersex Persons

http://current.com/items/90111401_marriage-and-intersex-persons.htm

If there's a silver lining, it's that there have been 18,000 same-sex marriages conducted in California confirmed as legal. That's a big step forward from a couple years ago.

Prop. 8 was a setback, but I believe it will go down in history as a temporary measure that simply delayed the inevitable.

I am deeply saddened that California will not be an equality state until 2010 when California voters will turn out to support Equality.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009263752_webmarriagelocal26.ht...

being anti-gay is gay

Can the message to citizens be any more mixed up? They allow the existing gay marriages to stay but no new gay marriages. Personally I do not want same-sex marriage but I do want a consistent and coherent message from my governments. They can enjoy all the rights and benefits of marriage but call it a union. All marriages & unions should have annual renewals put in a contract anyway.

well cali is more than liberal cities with good wine, there's a lot of open heartland "country" here too. It'll pass though society always progresses on easier to swallow issues like this over time. Abortion, thats a tough one...

Heartbreaking.

Once upon a time our country was divided into slave states and free states in much this manner.

Seems this time around California is a slave state.

Hahaha - this is so cool!!! I know ya'll going to "flame" me for this post - "flame" me - that's appropriate too! I am not a religious nut, nor am I a homophobe or a gay-basher. But why can't you all understand that we live in a democracy - people voted to keep MARRIAGE as a traditional institution - a legal union between a man and a woman. Even in the leftie-liberal state of Cali - the majority of people are for keeping marriage multi-sexed - if there's such a word. That's all there is to it. You, the gay people, are allowed to do anything and everything - which is fine - you are just as human as any heterosexual and just as a citizen. But at least for now, the whole concept of marriage is understood to be a heterosexual union - it's really quite simple!
BTW - there will never be more gays than straights - the society will die if this ever happens. Two hetero parents - 1 or more children. 2 homo parents - 0 children (naturally born). I am not counting the test tube baby births by the lesbians here.
So flame away - that's what you're good at, isn't it? You have all the equalities in our society - queer shows and movies, queer dancers and athletes, queer politicians and even religious leaders. Settle down and appreciate the freedoms - it is a lot worse for your ilk in societies of many of less-democratic nations - Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. I suppose it could be better is some ultra-liberal socialist European countries - but there, it's temporary - as these countries fall into the Islamic fold - which is just a matter of time, they will severely reverse their policies on gays - and your ilk will be hunted and persecuted there in time. No, that is not what I want - I am personally OK with your choice of sexuality - but I'd prefer if you kept it to yourself, instead of trumpeting "gay pride" all over the world. Kind of - not in my face, please... Or is that too much to ask for?

Disgusting! It's 2009! We still haven't learned to coexist, tolerate or accept one another?!!? This and all prejudice is the bane of civilization. As this old-world stupidity runs rampant,... civil rights die, progress is stunted and tensions run dangerously high. Is unity too much to ask for?

WE DISGUST ME

Californians who voted no on prop 9 roll call!

The equality movement most likely won today. The issue will now be going federal, and same-sex marriage rights will have a chance to blanket the entire US rather that just the state of California.

Under the federal constitution, citizens have the right to enter contracts, and they are ensured the freedom of religion. Since marriage is a legal and religious contract, the supreme court should rule that same-sex marriages are legal, and will be forcefully applied to every state in the union.

The real winners today are those in favor of a strong central government, and the real losers are state's rights advocates. California just gave away the right for states to decide who can and cannot get married in any state. Equality in marriage is going to happen one way or another, but at what cost?

The founders warned us of tyranny of the majority, and here it is at work, the courts were meant to balance that out, but it seems they didn't have the guts to oppose the irrational will of the people.

"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression. "-Thomas Jefferson

I think anyone who wants to be legally united to someone else for whatever reason should be allowed to do so, but my question about this particular case is how can an amendment to a constitution be unconstitutional? That's kind of a paradox. Other than that, go ahead and marry or civil unionate whomever you like. Don't bother me none.

i can see not allowing gay couples to marry in a religious institution if it's "against" what the religion teaches at "true" or "right"...but the state is supposed to be separate.

remember people ths was voted on by the people and this country is run by those people i have no problem with gay marriage but the people in cali apprently do

@nafsidan - clear thinking. "forcefully applied to every state in the union" - that's the matra of today's government. And for that, I hate liberal democrats.
As to gay marriage - the people of Cali voted - like it or not - that's democracy at work. Except in your case - if you don't agree with the outcome - then it's the "tyranny of the majority", biggotry, intolerance, etc. WTF? Cali is one open fucking minded state - and they voted to preserve the sanctity of marriage. Y'all have some options - accept it, move to Iowa or fight it until you inundate everyone so much that they will let you have it - but let me warn you - once you get it, you will not be happy either. You're community leaders will trumpet another "worthy" cause - like to teach 'gayness' in public schools or something like that.

Sad.