Muslim rage is stoked because we station tens of thousands of American troops on Muslim soil, occupy two Muslim nations, make possible the illegal Israeli ...
Muslim rage is stoked because we station tens of thousands of American troops on Muslim soil, occupy two Muslim nations, make possible the illegal Israeli ...
Did they play Barack Obama’s speech to the Muslim world in the prison corridors of Abu Ghraib, Bagram air base, Guantanamo or the dozens of secret sites where we hold thousands of Muslims around the world? Did it echo off the walls of the crowded morgues filled with the mutilated bodies of the Muslim dead in Baghdad or Kabul? Was it broadcast from the tops of minarets in the villages and towns decimated by U.S. iron fragmentation bombs? Was it heard in the squalid refugee camps of Gaza, where 1.5 million Palestinians live in the world’s largest ghetto?
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The Muslim world fears, correctly, that we intend to dominate Middle East oil supplies and any Caspian Sea oil infrastructure. And it is interested not in our protestations of good will but in the elemental right of justice and freedom from foreign occupation. We would react, should the situation be reversed, no differently.
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Muslim rage is stoked because we station tens of thousands of American troops on Muslim soil, occupy two Muslim nations, make possible the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestine, support repressive Arab regimes and torture thousands of Muslims in offshore penal colonies where prisoners are stripped of their rights. We now have 22 times as many military personnel in the Muslim world as were deployed during the crusades in the 12th century. The rage comes because we have constructed massive military bases, some the size of small cities, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Kuwait, and established basing rights in the Gulf states of Bahrain, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates. The rage comes because we have expanded our military empire into neighboring Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. It comes because we station troops and special forces in Egypt, Algeria and Yemen. And this vast network of bases and military outposts looks suspiciously permanent.
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The Bush White House openly tortured. The Obama White House tortures and pretends not to. Obama may have banned waterboarding, but as Luke Mitchell points out in next month’s issue of Harper’s magazine, torture, including isolation, sleep and sensory deprivation and force-feeding, continues to be used to break detainees. The president has promised to close Guantanamo, where only 1 percent of the prisoners held offshore by the United States are kept. And the Obama administration has sought to obscure the fate and condition of thousands of Muslims held in black holes around the globe. As Mitchell notes, the Obama White House “has sought to prevent detainees at Bagram prison in Afghanistan from gaining access to courts where they may reveal the circumstances of their imprisonment. It has sought to continue the practice of rendering prisoners to unknown and unknowable locations outside the United States, and sought to keep secret many (though not all) of the records regarding our treatment of those detainees.”
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Obama, whose embrace of American imperialism is as naive and destructive as that of George W. Bush, is the newest brand used to peddle the poison of permanent war. We may not see it. But those who bury the dead do.
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- Highr0ller
- 5 months ago
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They have their own people to blame, with out the ones working with us/for us, whats going on wouldnt not be possible.
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@Highr0ller....
oh, bullshit.
anyone feeling anger [or rage] for ANY reason, has the choice of how to react or express their anger.
unless they're fundamentalist muslim jew-hating assholes, in which case "choice" doesn't seem to involve any cognitive processes.
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Why hate Jews and/or Muslims?~
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- metalcookiesxy70
- 5 months ago
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I feel for all of you that think America is evil.
Take the time to look up "USA Oil Importation by country" The list is long with Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Angola, Saudi Arabia, and other non-OPEC countries responsible for more than 75% of our needs. A little conservation everyone seems to get so excited about would render most OPEC nations insignificant regarding our oil interests in them. Sometimes the only reason I think the USA buys oil from them is because someone feels sorry for the crybabies because they have nothing else to offer the world to help feed their masses
What nation has America ever gone to war with where hostilities ceased friendship and economic development did not immediately occur...Viet Nam comes to mind only because they insisted on not disclosing information regarding MIAs and we were basically sick of the way they conducted warfare...It was ugly and we both needed a break from each other. China and Russia both used Viet Nam as a staging ground to keep us off balance...This was before trade relations with China initiated if you are too young to know we didn't always trade with China...Nixon anyone?
Russia? Scare me to death.
Back to your insistence that the USA hates Muslims.
Bull.
I tire easily about Israel.
The Jews deserve their little piece of earth-period!
Do most Jews and Palestinians get along? Damn right they do.
Do shitheads and fuckheads? No!
Do shitheads and fuckheads bring out the worst in all of us? Yes!
Peace...Education helps...So does money...So does tolerance...But mostly, love your mother--she will keep you alive!-
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- WisconsinNorm
- 5 months ago
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For the Jews/Muslims-haters, why hate Jews/Muslims?
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- metalcookiesxy70
- 5 months ago
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If USA gathered all the Jews out of Israel and brought them all to USA. Do you actually think the violence in West Bank, Gaza Strip, The whole of "Palestine" would stop?
Well your a pickle shy of having a full barrel. The Syrians, Egyptians,Palestinians,Iranians, and the rest would rush to fill the void left by Jews. And it would be same shit different groups of fanatics fighting because of some past slight of one clan to another.So please quit blaming the Jews. If they were gone tomorrow suicide bombers would still go to work!!
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thank you, plusaf, for interjecting some seriously-needed anti-bs into this thread....its deranged religious zealots with the mentality shown in this thread that think the entire world that doesn't pray to allah is out to "get" all the muslims. NEWS FLASH: we don't care about you people, your hot, sandy, countries, OR your freakin' religion. the only reason we even know about islam at all is because ya'll started blowing up our shit and killing our women, children, firefighters and police officers and other innocent people who just want to live their lives in peace. tell ya what, "highroller," go take your vapid justifications for killing God's creatures, and read something called the Golden Rule; it's considered one of the greatest religious tenents of all time, regardless of one's religious affiliation.
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- misanthrope72
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Norml37,
Excellent thoughts ..........but not possible.In fact Europe never wanted them.....and I suspect that when push comes to shove the USA won't want them either. They will start wars wherever they go, and have never been popular.........................so putting all the bad apples in one barrel seemed like a good idea I suppose to Empire Britain..............and this is the result.
If they left the land belonging to Palestine then all the stateless Palestinians would return home to Palestine. There would be some squabbles about who would get what.........and dividing up the land would be a problem.......but, that would eventually be sorted out and the Palestinians would live together peacefully.
All the other countries would rejoice at the end of Israel.....and when aid would be given to Palestine they would work and build their country.
How I wish they could all get home again....it is such a curse to be stateless and live as a refugee for half a century.
Yes....it would be an ideal solution. Thank you for thinking of it.
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- Highr0ller
- 5 months ago
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Religion all religion is the bane of humanity as long as people can hide behind the invisible god figure to justifie what ever they do then humanity will never know peace.
the toran the quran the bible the dead sea scrolls all of it is bull you do read your holy books dont you you actually believe that someone rode a flying horse into heaven or rose from the dead after rotting in a cave for three days. -
Courage, every now and again you do a post and I nod my head and say "that's why he's called courage."
Courage to speak your mind.
Sure a lot of killing goes on in God's name....and they are stealing the land in God's name too.-
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- Highr0ller
- 5 months ago
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'If, while there is yet time, we turn to Justice and obey her, if we trust Liberty and follow her, the dangers that now threaten must disappear, the forces that now menace will turn to agencies of elevation. Think of the powers now wasted; of the infinite fields of knowledge yet to be explored; of the possibilities of which the wondrous inventions of this century give us but a hint. with want destroyed, with greed changed to noble passions, with the fraternity that is born of equality taking the place of the jealousy and fear that now array men against each other, with mental power loosened by conditions which give to the humblest comfort and leisure; who shall measure the heights to which our civilisation may soar? : Henry George 1839 - 1897
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- Highr0ller
- 5 months ago
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This simply uses "Muslim rage" as a pretext to critique "american political ethics" two very different issues. Our ethics tend to suck. Muslim "rage" sucks all on its own. So thumbs down.






