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Transformers 2 offends with racial stereotypes

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Well, Michael Bay has apparently done it again. "The Twins," two formally conjoined robots in the new film are offending people with their overblown urban swagger, illiteracy, and "stoned" persona. WTF, Michael Bay?
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  • added June 23, 2009

60 comments // Transformers 2 offends with racial stereotypes

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    Who says any of these are racial stereotypes? Frankly sounds more like K-Fed than anyone else. So I guess if a character is illiterate, high, poor, and generally trashy they MUST be black eh?

    Kamilo
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    to be honest, their really funny, so people should just get over their over-the-top political correctness..

    R7
    • R7
    • 5 months ago
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    Why do they have to be black?? Isn't this assumption racist in itself?

    joaarias
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    @TysonWHannah on twitter says "Check this out"

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    Its like the character "Jazz" from the first film, he was in all intentions to be the "black" robot. These characters, like that one, use stereotypes to make a character 'black' ( the big ears, the gold teeth, the stoned aspect, saying things like "bitchass", etc etc).

    if anyone read the article attached or sees anything about the movie it is OBVIOUS that these characters are meant to be 'black' and are using racial stereotypes to convey that.

    No the matter of it being racist and "wrong" is very much up for debate.

    AswegoAsdego
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    Kind of reminds me of when Hispanics accused taco bell of being racist with the Chihuahua.

    "You are insulting our people."

    ...I'm pretty sure they have a dog speaking Spanish and English. Would it be better if it had just spoken English?

    Racial stereotypes will always exist because people will always immediately categorize anything that fits the "marks" as being under that race.

    AsqegoAsdego is a great example, that attitude of "obviously its black" is why racism will never die.

    "OMG That cat robbed a man it must be a black stereotype."

    "Or...it could be a cat that robs people...just a thought."

    theultimateend
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    Couldn't it be that they gave them an "urban" personality, and then it just so happens that there is a large percentage of blacks that live in said urban areas?

    Much like white people can be "urban", black people that live out in rural areas can be "country".

    People of all races can have the properties that these characters hold. I think it's the viewpoint of society through mass media that makes people feel otherwise.

    JosephJinx
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    I think it looks more like a retarded yoda then anything.

    NoGodsNoMasters
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    @EdBrock on twitter says "YOO AS AMPED AS I AM TO C TRANSFORMERS 2..PLS READ THIS ARTICLE MY TWIGGAS N TWIGGETTES!!"

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    yep their stoned well that one there is stoned anyway

    bailey78
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    i think it's mommy smokes crack or maybe meth

    bailey78
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    The characters are obviously a parody of an urban black persona. Or at least a persona that originated in urban black culture.

    Another character in the movie is Robert Epps played by Tyrese Gibson. He's a Chief Master Sergeant which is the ninth, and highest, enlisted rank in the U.S. Air Force. He's also black.

    What's the problem?

    What makes racial stereotyping in movies wrong is when there is only ONE view of a race presented in a movie. Long Duck Dong in "16 Candles" for example. He was the only Asian guy in that movie and he was a complete stereotype. That's racism.

    In "Transformers," black culture is made fun of, but a black person is also shown in a position of power and prestige. White culture is made fun of in movies all the time, but it's OK because white people are shown in positive rolls too. That isn't racism, it's comedy.

    Complaining about these characters only distracts us from the real racism that's out there.

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    flyingkick
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    this is ridiculous, plain stupid are the words I would use to describe people who think robots are racist because of how they talk and look. Are they meant to have blunt slow personality with no particular characteristics to make sure they dont offend ANYONE.

    If this is the case, Megatron is clearly Male. Thats sexist. Why can't the leader be female? Cue a column in heat about sexism in Transformers 2 ......

    What a joke of a society we live in.

    hoppitt
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    And yes. I saw it on Saturday. I didn't even wait for Orange Wednesday.

    hoppitt
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    Michael Bay's true offence lies in his inability to tell a coherent story. The amazing thing to me is that he keeps making movies and people keep seeing them. He's at 7% fresh on rottentomatoes.com for a reason.

    Strobeman
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    i think that they are just robots in a fictional movie that was made to entertain people.
    and frankly i think that box of office number tell a different story.
    i thought it was awesome.

    currentlilmexbro
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    And I also thought it was good. What are you expecting from the storyline and trying to implicate giant transforming robots? Try it and let me know.

    hoppitt
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    The important thing here is that Michael’s Bay horribly filmmaking can offend people of all races and religions, even putting stereotypes aside

    el_chivo
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    Even if they were intended to be "black", the african american stereotype itself is not "racist". For, it neither promotes, nor denigrates the race itself. Nor does it that of any other "race". Therefore, under the current definition of the word, the transformer characters themselves are without racism.

    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

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    Its ok, to be fair they will make a transformers 3 with a very "Irish" bot. Its going to get drunk all the time off gasoline, its metal will burn easily in the light, and it will always want to fight. See, I'm 100% irish and I wouldn't give a rats ass if that was in a movie.

    Sharkdiver07
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    im offended by michael bay's reality stereotype.

    eta
    • eta
    • 5 months ago
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    Am I the only one who thinks its ironic that the majority of the people finding no offense from Michael Bay's characters, happen to be White? If you're not the butt of the joke, what puts you at authority to say whether or not its offensive? Has anyone asked anyone Black if they were offended? Or is that too grandiose? I don't mean the Black actors getting paid to star in the flick, either.

    I read the article and honestly, I won't be seeing the Transformer sequel. Not that I ever had faith in Michael Bay doing the series justice. I saw the animated movie as an 8 year old and that, to me, is the true movie.

    Its a shame that big name Hollywood movies continue to Sambo up flicks even as an African-American sits in the most powerful post in the world. Couldn't they have made some POSITIVE stereotypes? I guess they figured all the negativity was more relative to a younger audience.

    MICHAEL BAY, YOU FAIL.

    HaloedGriot
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    I have not seen this movie. I never will. But we have to make fun of stereotypes. It is ok to point out to the sheeple in this world that they are going though life acting. Life is not a stage. It is ok to express yourself any way YOU want. NOT the way a media outlet tells you. If you are a walking, talking imitation, then you my friend are fodder for a joke or two. If you have to hold your pants up because you like to wear them 4 sizes to large (holding your groin is not a very good way to hold up your pants) you should be lampooned. This robot looks green to me. Color does not matter. I do not owe anything extra to people that are similar in skin color to myself. I am not a raciest. I dislike everybody equally. Hey Bobby do you Remember: "Pork chops and Applesauce.”?

    notsure
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    Bay insults his audience with his lame, overtly stereotypical character portrayals. Look at the first installment: The hispanic character was, I swear, Ricky Ricardo 2k. The black characters (robots included) talked jive slang, danced, and made the obligatory snappy one liners. The white characters.........wait a minute........ where wholesome good family guys! Hmmmmmmmmmm.... Yet white movie goers see nothing objectionable about the movie. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm... I wonder why?

    Watching a Bay movie is seriously like watching one of those Keenon Ivory Wayan spoof movies with all the typical, corny, tired, LAME stereotypes. The only difference is Keenon is making fun of the industry and Bay is making fun of us!

    MrAlveezy
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    I haven't seen the second transformers, but judging from the portrayal of Jazz in the last film, and his unsanctimonious disposal (We lost a good comrade *throws body behind shoulder* But gained new ones) I can only imagine the color Bay is trying to throw into the bots.
    Oh Bay, what are you trying to accomplish?
    There can be humor value in jokes not pertaining to stereotypes.

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