Prehistoric European Cave Artists Were Female!

// added June 27, 2009 // 30 comments //
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"Until recently, most scientists assumed these prehistoric handprints were male. But "even a superficial examination of published photos suggested to me that there were lots of female hands there," Pennsylvania State University archaeologist Dean Snow said of European cave art.

By measuring and analyzing the Pech Merle hand stencils, Snow found that many were indeed female--including those pictured here."

A little more at link, how interesting, but really not that surprising!
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30 comments // Prehistoric European Cave Artists Were Female!

  • remanns
  • remanns
  • barbie_chola89
  • Humdrum
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      Humdrum  
    • "By measuring and analyzing the Pech Merle hand stencils, Snow found that ***many*** were indeed female--including those pictured here."

      "Many" does not equate with "all."

      The fact that both male and female "cavemen" created art is not surprising in the slightest. Both sexes are perfectly capable of beauty and creativity, just as both are capable of violence and destruction. "Cavewomen" certainly had more time to spend in the caves creating things.

      I really wish it wasn't so common for people to jump to utter extremes when presented information like this, but there we go. I just hope none of you "look-how-evolved-women-are-when-compared-to-men" people have the balls to call yourselves feminists. History is indeed his story, and women have been crapped upon for most of it, but get over it or get over it. Either way, look forward and move on.

    • 7 months ago
  • manfreddrake
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      manfreddrake  
    • ...and I'll bet twenty minutes after making the masterpiece they wanted the guys in the group to move it over to the left a little, no, no a little bit to the right, now down, that's it. No wait ,put it back where it was! Nothing changes!!! lol !!

    • 8 months ago
  • 24French
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      24French  
    • I agree - this really is dizzying information. My own source of femininity has been Raquel Welch's performance in 2 B.C. I need to sit down.

    • 8 months ago
  • cmordus1
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      cmordus1  
    • WTF? Since childhood, my source of masculinity has been my belief that cave-paintings were the work of an artistically talented cave(man). My life is now in a tailspin! I'm heading to the Gay Pride Parade to explore my options. Go Cubs!

    • 8 months ago
  • boywhocould
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      boywhocould  
    • Sounds to me that we are all basing our assumptions on our own limited purview, no mater the stance. . people are all different, some just happen to be Y and some happen to be X, there are surely social and cultural derived differences in the development of the human brain (male/fem) now apposed to then so its all quite futile to assert one way or the other, additionally the origin of sin (missing ones mark) has alot to play I feel, some doctors should have been mechanics (or garbage men) and some boxboys (or boxpersons :) should have been Rembrandt.

    • 8 months ago
  • tested2
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      tested2  
    • females are connected to the right hemisphere of the brain. Men evolved to judge distance,stock,kill,provide,hunt,etc....

      Women are the bearers and carriers of the timeless, the conception, then gestation, and then the delivery gives a timeless creativity. Now, in this epoch they are connected to both hemispheres of the brain at the same time and come off "indecisive", or"a woman has the prerogative to change her mind". It is just that it is a duel connectivity of the cortex . Men still must extrapolate themselves from the liner left brain and switch to the right. It is still a deliberate effort. It is speculated that transitional men, Renaissance men, gay men are also connected to both hemispheres simultaneously. Maybe perhaps this is the expanding evolution. It is most evident in the example of "asking a man who is working under a car to come take a photograph of a plant" , he will be livid,angry at having to manually switch to the timeless,artistic,right side. Or so has been my observation and inquiry into the realm of the ancient female artist rituals and renderings.

    • 8 months ago
  • numinant
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      numinant  
    • Has anyone coined the term "clitsucker" for men who pander to women by telling them how creative and strong and important they are while denigrating their own gender? Can I claim it?

      Women can be just as thoughtless and terrifying as men. With this understanding results true feminism.

    • 8 months ago
  • boywhocould
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      boywhocould  
    • numinant:

      Amen. . + what if the hand carvings were male children, the difference in index and ring fingers do not normally show till after puberty (assuming the physical natures are the same then as now) and early humans were somewhat smaller on scale back then

    • 8 months ago
  • bluestranger
  • Humdrum
  • cztheday
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      cztheday  
    • I can't say I am terribly surprised, either. These numbers may be way off...but an educated guess would be that the average life expectancy back then was somewhere between 25 and 30 years? The infant mortality rate and the rate of death from complications in childbirth alone must have been staggering. Even something as "benign" as near-sightedness or fallen arches (flat feet) would be darned near a death sentence.

      If the pattern of girls maturing earlier than boys was as true back then as it is today (generally speaking...I can see the rocks flying at me already) that 2-4 extra years of full, mature intellectual capacity for a woman would be of enormous relative significance...something like 15% of an adult lifetime at that point in history. Today, that 15% would be more like TEN years.

      Further, between late pregnancy, childbirth and recovery, and nurturing the infants and small children while the men hunted, I am guessing (again generalizing) that women not only spent much more waking time IN the caves than did men, but they also had significantly longer periods of peak creativity and intellectual sophistication -- presumably with limited means of expressing themselves (i.e., no Internet...OMG, not even Twitter!).

      OK, so this may be a BIT long on BS, but it's not ENTIRELY implausible (and I DID spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express last night)!

    • 8 months ago
  • boywhocould
  • CELTIXSHAMROX
  • trelk
  • bombastinator
  • bombastinator
  • Panzer_Tanzler
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Panzer_Tanzler:

      We were not animals. There is evidence to show that human beings were concerned with their appearance, as evidenced with recent findings of jewelry in caves in China that date back as much as 2 million years.

      To be concerned with one's appearance as to adorn oneself with jewelry indicates a high level of cultural and sociological systems.

    • 8 months ago
  • numinant
  • cmordus1
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • sounds good you find some pretty cool stuff don't you' when i figure out how to use a computer properly i will try to post some of the stuff i find untill then i will read your stuff ha ha ??

    • 8 months ago
  • Bigdog_mike
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      Bigdog_mike  
    • Can't say this surprises me. Women are beautiful creative creatures!
      Hell there is a women in my life that is SO inspiring I don't even know the word to use.... I gotta ask her... then kiss her!

    • 8 months ago
  • slarabee
  • slarabee
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      slarabee  
    • It stands to reason that in the early years of our mental exploration that women were at the fore front. I am not saying more so than now. I am saying the obvious. Any thinking person will understand without me having to explain.

      Without my wife I feel free for a moment. In time though I must admit I begin to feel lost, confused and oh so alone.

      That is not to say I cannot. It is just admitting... well hel you either know or you don't...

    • 8 months ago
  • bluestranger
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • slarabee:

      I think Freud writes about how prehistoric women sent men out to hunt because they could not be trusted; if left alone at the camp they would pee on the fire and put it out.

    • 8 months ago
  • bluestranger

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