FDA Trying to now do to Tylenol what it did to Sudefed!

I think that the real question here is about when we will stop trying to save people from themselves.

The article simply states that stupid people are taking too much tylenol because it is in so many different medicines (both otc and w/ Rx). People just don't read what is in the medicines they are taking and don't know how much is too much (esp when popping narcotics mixed with the tylenol). They have tried to educate people about the dangers, but can't stop the deaths attributable to it.

So here are my thoughts:

1) If people are too stupid to read the instructions and follow them, then maybe they are best left out of the gene pool. Remember natural selection?

2) Maybe we could also make the labels more clear. Use shorter names for medicine, and don't allow name brands to be the biggest label on the box. Yes, some people don't know that the active ingredient in advil, ibuprofen, and motrin are all the same, so they take one of each and hope it does the trick.

Government paranoia, true.

But a little caution should be used. If we the people just start letting government and corporations hack away at our freedoms, rights and choices; We'll all wake up in a world where vitamins will be illegal without a prescription and we'll all have to be microchiped with all our info, medical records, financial debt, etc...

Kinda like a 1984 Orwellian scenario!

All I'm saying is that we should think before we start giving up liberties freely. Tylenol today.... but what's next tomorrow?
Like Government has never abused their power in the past.
- Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!

- Friedrich Nietzsche

overreacting much people? from the article:

"The Food and Drug Administration has assembled more than 35 experts to discuss ways to prevent overdose with acetaminophen — the pain-relieving, fever-reducing ingredient in Tylenol and dozens of other prescription and over-the-counter medications.

Despite years of educational campaigns and other federal actions, acetaminophen is the leading cause of liver failure in the U.S., sending 56,000 people to the emergency room annually, according to the FDA.

The agency on Monday asked its experts to consider a range of options: adding a "black box" warning label to the products, lowering the drug dosage in some products, or pulling certain types of medications off the market."

gov paranoia much??

The article is about pain killers and the need to protect people from them, and that is what I have been talking about and this is what the damn page is about, but you are still right: I came for a discussion and got something entirely different. Thanks for that.

Yes, weed is more natural than all those chemicals.

If it works! Smoke Up and Enjoy! :)

fuck your tyenol, smoke weed :)

Exactly! Thats what this thread has always been about! Vitamins and OTC meds, you are the one who brought up Narcotics and deaths from narcotics.

Narcotics, Heath and Michael Jackson aren't even mentioned in the article.

Thats why I said that you are crusading on the wrong page.

Since when did this discussion start becoming an insult volly? Expressing my opinion is much different than you expressing your ignorance through insults. I never said anything about vitamin C, it's not a medicine it's a type of nutrient you can by eating a bunch of different fruits or even by eating seal skin.

You're right theultimateend. We all *should* know what goes into our body, but alot of people just know that it works. And if a vitamin or OTC med makes someone feel better, why take that away from them. So large companies can make larger profits.

Its an issue of Freedom more than it is about what kind of medicine. We have the freedom to pursue happiness, no matter what shape your happiness takes!

@ultimateend I agree

I'm just expressing my opinion that even simple cold and analgesic medications are dangerous and someone who does know the dangers should be able to see what else you take. It's nit about criminality or taking rights away, it's the same philosophy as requiring people to take a driving test before they get on the road with a car. I don't take any fever meds because the one time I did an infection quickened and I had to go to hospital. But hey, you can grow all sorts of plants in your yard that have the same ingrediants, so you have that right.

Think about only trying to hit the submit button once! Repeating yourself doesn't make a point, it just shows a lack of one. (OK, never mind, you deleted your 7 posts all saying the exact same thing. Thank you.)

Again. I'm not talking narcotics, I'm talking about vitamins and cold medicine. You know, stuff that one takes to keep a healthy body!

I'm sorry you're obviously so devastated by those actors death's but you're on the wrong crusade here, since the article doesn't even mention narcotics. Did you even read the article?

Thanks for you concern. I'll watch out, wouldn't wanna overdose on vitamin C.....lol

So I'm gonna ask real quick.

How many here can explain to me right now how any medication they are currently taking works?

I dunno I mean ya'll seem to think it is your right so on and so forth but I'm just curious how many people even know what they are taking.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like everyone on current to be able to pound as much random matter into their bodies as they can. I just think its naive to demand things if you don't know what your demanding.

I'm not talking Rush's oxycontin habit or Heath's unfortunate death from sleeping pills. I'm talking about a simple cold pill and some vitamins.

I'm talking about the average Joe and the fact that he should have the right to make himself feel better from a cold. I'm not talking about narcotics!

Nice try though, you almost got cold medicine and narcotics bunched into the same group.
What? You work for the FDA or something?

Didn't NAFTA and CAFTA have something to do with trying to make it to where you would need a prescription for vitamins, even vitamin C?

Seems I remember something about that and a lose of freedoms.

Think about the Heath Ledgers and Michael Jackson and rush limbaughs (excuse the spelling). You aren't the one making the medicine so how is it your right for companies to offer dangerous medicine? I actually believe in universal healthcare so I don't want poor people to be left without needed medicine but the key is need. The pharmacy should know what you put in your system so they don't prescribe something that will harm youvor even kill you? You talk about rights but you don't realize that your rights are taken away when knowledge isn't given and companies allow you to stupidly get addicted or harmed by drugs. Thinking requires taking a closer loom at what the problem is.

Sorry adveritas, I just can't justify taking away people's free, fair and proper access to cold medicine just because they may not have health insurance.

People who do not have health care are not second class citizens and should have equal access to all the same goods that those with health care have, and it is bad enough already - Having to show I.D. and sign your life away just for a box of sudefed - Its unfortunate that the media has already scared us into believing that if your buying sudefed that you must be a "meth head."
No, g'dammit! Its the only kind that actually works! Whats next? They gonna try to make me have a prescription for a glass of water, "because if you drink too much and improperly you can drown!"
Wouldn't surprise me.....

Medicine is not dangerous if its a knowledgeable adult making his/her own informed decision on what medicine they want because they know that brand works for them.

Bend over and assume the position. This way the government will know everything you put into your body. It'll all be recorded and the can check it out when they decide it's relevant.
Kiss your freedoms good-bye!

You know I'm tired of being treated like a criminal every time my allergies kick in and I have to go to the pharmacy to sign papers and give my Driver's license info to get ONE box of sudefed.
Now I'm going to have to do this for Excedrin. Poop!
I have migraines and I've been buying the Dollar General brand for $2 a bottle as apposed to $8 a bottle for the brand name. If this goes through the DG won't sell anymore like they quit selling the DG brand of pseudoephedrine shortly after the Patriot Act made buying it such a pain in the ass!
With that said acetaminophen is a dangerous chemical if not used correctly but the government needs to STAY OUT OF MY BUSINESS!

medicine should be prescribed by a doctor, even if it is Tylenol, lots of people die every year by taking these or combining medicines that may aggravate certain chronic illnesses. And children grow up after years of their parents giving them who knows what that you can buy on the shelves. Sorry, I just think that knowledge is what makes people safe and the knowledge is simply not provided accurately for these drugs so the FDA is doing what it morally should do.

Plus, it's actually the companies that will be hurt, over the drug sales are huge, and those combined medicines make huge profits, therefore they're the ones that will lose out in this situation.

Now instead of buying one medication that had all the medicine in it for all your ailments. You'll have to buy 3 or 4 separate medicines, just to equal the one medication that used to have all 3 or 4 medicines in it at once.

Just another way to rob the consumer to try and make up for lost profits.