Atheist Life vs Religious Life

Well, you must expierience both sides, in order to know which one is better, although this only pertains to yourself, it can be expressed in a broad way towards humans....

Humans are unwilling to change their lifes, fearing of what may overcome them in the future....There are so many, humans in fear, due to that...They have a created a religous culture around them, to make them feel more justice-like and that they could contact a imaginary person.....

The most clearest about everything of which a human creates is always in their image....That neverfails, and as long as you knowthat, their"God" of which they worship is completely false, because human made it in their own image....Those humans even have the hypocriteness to claim that their God is the one who creates all in his own image, which contridicts itself....

The only difference between me and many of my religious friends is that they go to church on Sundays. I stay home and sleep a little more.

Then we still meet up on fridays and get drunk, we still play ping pong, we still go to school. Life without God isn't big deal...

The way I see it, we all live life without God. Only some of us think we do live life with him/her/it/them :)

He owed the religious folks. It's a shame people lack the courage to accept the reality of the world rather then fantasy of religion.

But I would have included agnostics.

I'm Agnostic...I think...

Although, after watching this...

I think we could use a 'God's plan' storyline...but a far more modern God than most options I've seen proposed.

What about people that make 'help-self/hurt-others' lies? Proving the absence of an ideal system of belief isn't necessarily an ideal system of belief. You may think far differently than others, and without a protocol to establish an agreed upon set of values...the world becomes a jungle to an extent.

vOm.

http://thewyzardproject.blogspot.com/2009/07/proverbial-boom.html

In all honesty, I tuned out about halfway through...because I don't like the 'us vs. them' approach...and I get bored easily.

well it's conflicting. The religious believers has a majority number than Atheist people. Everyone says it's better and longevity will happen if you live the believer or worship a religion. Is atheist even wrong? Is it wrong to have proof of this promised after-life? Some people need more than a book to be a believer. Atheism has gotten more of a bad image about there non-belief, but beliefs in general has caused war's and conflicts among different cultures.

So which is better?
And i'm a Christian.

This guy makes a lot of implied assumptions about what religious people do and believe as well as those of aethists. IMHO Believing in god does not automatically make one a magically thinking mysticist with limited understanding of causality. Just as being an atheist does not necessarily mean one is not one. I've occasionally seen atheists on this very site who seem to fit that description.

What this guy is describing isn't atheism but something much more narrow. it's practically it's own religion.

Even Nietsche believed in God. The religious life (here I am speaking of Professed Religious) is a life that is God centered, and the focus is removed from self and placed on serving humanity. It is not self indulgent, and a life where material poverty is embraced, It is a life which serves both God and man. (which is one reason why the Church has schools, universities, hospitals, social service agencies, adoption agencies, religious orders that engage in social justice (Maryknoll, just being one example) and lay organizations that do as well, such as the Catholic Worker, known for their "Houses of Hospitality" and their service to the poor and homeless. I have yet to see a soup kitchen with a name like "Mother Gaia Soup Kitchen" or a food bank or thrift store run by a branch of American Atheists, Inc.

i'd rather hang out with people that believe in something than people who believe in nothing...

everyone believes in something, some just have intelligent reasons for believe things were others are content to believe whatever they have been indoctrinated into.

I just noticed something. This article is marked with all the types. It's ranking in music of all things. it's obvious the guy just marked everything. Can someone remove some of the pointless markers please?

If god does exist one thing is certain, he would not be helping every single individual every single time he's prayed to. He's got bigger stones too throw.
Example: "God help me find my socks," I found them OMG! "Thank you!"
Who found your socks? YOU. I believe that 99.9% of the time you solve your own problem and all praying does is give you a little extra confidence that your prayer will come true.
I furthermore believe in the individuals higher self which is sometimes mistaken for being god, your spirit separate but connected to your mind and body. Everything you think is through your mind, what you do phisically is though your body and divine experience, yogic hamony and surealism is though your spirit. Bliss and oneness comes from the harmony.
One mans beliefs

Let people believe what they wanna believe... Enough said. No need wasting one's time trying to convince someone else what to believe. Beliefs come from within...

Is there really any debate at all?
If so, all you representatives of your god, get your god down here to defend himself.

After all, he is all powerful and all knowing, right! Then why not end the debate, fly down from the clouds like superman and say,"Here I am, I exist." That is what it would take to justify worshiping and attending to a petty god's every need.

Until then, there is no debate.

Faith means not wanting to know what is true. — Friedrich Nietzsche

The problem with faith is what I just said in another thread:

Moderates validate extremists.

When the Mormon church in California raised and spent 8 million dollars to fight gay marriage. That action was accepted because folks looked at it as a rare occurrence.

The unfortunate truth is that for every person you will ever meet that is a moderately religious person, there is or was someone somewhere murdering someone because they are an extremely religious person.

The biggest problem I have is in the fact that there are mounds of evidence that just being an optimistic person has the same psychological benefits as being a person of faith. So what does faith net you?

It nets you absolutely nothing more than merely being optimistic and yet it validates extremely short sighted folks all over this country and across the world who kill, belittle, and betray over nothing more than literature that wasn't even that well written to begin with.

Damn if you are going to follow a book at least get one that wasn't written over flat bread and wine.

There are a trillion real things that you can believe in just within our galaxy. I see little reason to start making up stuff.

@ unclecharlie, in response to his response to me

Well sorry unclecharlie, but young people these days don't really give a damn. You would know if you were my age...

And no, we barely talk about God. That includes my religious friends, who are religious in name only.

Maybe in the rural red states people think and act differently, but we have a totally much more secular culture where I live. God just simply is not in our conversations and our everyday life...

And while there are people here who do involve their belief in God in their everyday life, they represent a very small minority.

If you were to ask many young people how often they think about GOD on a daily basis, you would get a confused look and an answer like "Not that much really"...

Thats where I live.

Here is an example of the thinking of liberal humanists.
I had THREE liberals today tell me that morals don't exist, or only at the individual level.
Check out this discussion thread:
Lib1:"Morals do exist but they are horseshit…..if we’re talking about societies morals. Individual morals exist and they do matter but it’s up to each person to enforce them upon themselves which most do but some do not just like everything else. They also differ from one ignorant asshole to the next."

So I asked him some questions to which he wrote replies:
So why don’t we legalize pedophilia? Because society has agreed that it is wrong but it is still up to each individual to decide if they are going to go along with society. That’s why we still have pedophiles.
Why should a married guy worry about screwing some chick? The ones that are screwing some other chick besides their wife aren’t too concerned about so this is a moot point. Of course when they get caught many fain their guilt and some regret their moral decision.
Why not secretly screw our friends’ wives? Some people do and some do not, it’s still an individual moral decision.
How about drugs? There’s nothing wrong with drugs, take all you want, nothing moral about it. For some this is a moral decision, for others it does not have a connection to morals, depends upon your view of drugs. If their decision to take drugs hurts someone then it goes beyond those directly involved.

Just because someone DOES it does not make it an issue of individual taste. MURDER has NOTHING to do with an individual’s morality. Murder, theft, rape, adultery, pedophilia, drug/alcohol addiction are morally corrupt because they cause the individual and the society harm.

The list of sins are sins for the same reason: if you do not control your baser urges, you will inevitably do harm to yourself and others.

Take the Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. "

The Europeans thought that "rights" were granted by magnanimous Kings. The could also be revoked by the same kings, who had ultimate power over their lives.

The men and women of Faith, to the contrary, recognized that HUMAN RIGHTS are "unalienable", cannot be recinded by tyrants, because God gave us our desires to be free, made us equal, and gave us our moral codes for behavior which are the FOUNDATIONS for civilization.

These humanists have eroded the moral code and you can see evidence of the results everywhere you look. From abortions to rampant drug addiction, violence and murder and rape...not to mention pedophilia and other sick behaviors.

You don't have to believe in God to benefit from the fact that MOST people do.

Atheists can sleep in on Sunday