Top 6 Reasons Why People Hate the Jews

// added July 09, 2009 // 45 comments //
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It has been said that the history of almost all of the Jewish holidays can be summed up succinctly: "They wanted to kill us; we won. Let's eat." Why has anti-Semitism been so pervasive in so many countries, in so many time periods and for so many reasons?

Between the years 250 CE and 1948 CE - a period of 1,700 years - Jews have experienced more than eighty expulsions from various countries in Europe...

Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:

1. Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power."
2. Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people."
3. Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles."
4. Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus."
5. Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.)
6. Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

As we examine the explanations, we must ask -- Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions:

1. Economic -- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.

2. Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.

3. Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society."

4. Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.

5. Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes."

6. Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race - but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness - and, when we do assimilate - for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win.

Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.

by: Rabbi Kalman Packouz
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45 comments // Top 6 Reasons Why People Hate the Jews

  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • It is easy to lie about the hate Islam carries for other religions, especially for the Jews and Christians.
      Learn how to lie with AL-TAQIYA follow the koran and you will learn exactly how and when to lie while ala approves.
      They even have a second method of lying called, KITHMAN, which also gives them permission from ala to lie and deceive people for even more reasons.
      So, they have two ways of lying with full permiission to lie both ways. This permission comes directly from mohamed. You see, mohamed said that ala said that mohamed should write down what ala said, and then tell the people that ala said those things to mohamed, so that he should tell those things to the people. Unfortunately, no one was there to see ala say that to mohamed to tell the people that ala said that.
      So, if you consider Al-Taqiya and Kithman, you can already see how much you can trust what Muslims say to you or to anyone.
      It also gives us no honest idea of how they feel about any religion, not just the jews.

    • 7 months ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • I never said I didn't care about the Jews. What I will say is that the Zionists of Britain and Europe obtained the land of Palestine based on lies, terrorism and murder and they continue to murder and steal land that doesn't belong to them.

      Jews have no right to Palestine or to an all Jewish state.To say that Jews are entitled to a homeland in Israel, or anywhere is a flawed argument. That is the problem with Israel. If world leaders forced all Jews to go live in Israel you would be screaming about pograms and discrimination and whatnot. See how that works?

      But no one cares about the Palestinians that are being holocausted right now by the Jews, that is what is most ironic and amusing about people who go on and on and on about the Jewish suffering we call the Holocaust.

      You appear to be saying that somehow that Jewish suffering should be held in a higher regard than the suffering than all other people who have suffered including Christians who were slaughtered under the command of Jewish Communinsts Lenin, Marx and Engles, or that the jewish suffering is somehow more important than the ongoing suffering of the Africans who endured 400 YEARS OF SLAVERY.

      I'm not here to spew hatred, I'm simply calling you out on your race baiting for no apparent reason, as well as presenting an argument based on faulty logic. I'm also calling out Abraham99 for making shit up about Zionism and the Old and New Testament which he refuses to acknowledge.

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • Massanova:

      In my opinion, a person has to be pretty souless not to care about Jews after what this world allowed to be done to them. I don't care if you're sick of hearing about the Holocaust. People like myself won't let the world forget it happened. That's what people like you want people like me to do. Just like you want me to think I'm promoting hate, when all I'm doing is bring skeletons out of the closet and holding them up in your face to acknowledge.

      You represent one reason WHY the Jewish people should NEVER give up their land. Because when it comes down to it, people like you would turn their back on them in a millisecond. You'd hear "rumors" that Jews were being burned in ovens and shrug your shoulders. I hope you watch the video I posted. Chances are you won't though. Which is a total shame.

    • 7 months ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • kjoknoswazzup:

      get over it. Millions have died since and Israel is killing many of them.

      You must move past the victim complex and be held accountable for the killings carried out by Israel and the great BERLIN TYPE WALL Israel has constructed, and is still constructing.

      War criminals the lot of them.
      Down with Israel.

      No peace until they move on to new pastures and leave the Arabs to get on with their business.

    • 7 months ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • Should I not hold my breath for Abraham99 to post the scriptures from the Old AND New Testament, where Zionism, a political ideology invented in the late 19 century is mentioned?

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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  • FallenMorgan
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      FallenMorgan  
    • I'm so tired of this...

      People assume that liberals who are opposed to Israel and zionism are antisemitic and hate Jews.

      Well...

      Explain why there are Jews opposed to zionism.

      And I don't hate anybody. To me the Israel-Palestine conflict is children fighting over a sandbox, saying it all belongs to them.

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • FallenMorgan:

      Not necessarily, FallenMorgan. Personally it just seems as if you don't understand the concepts that are involved here from a historical, religious or philosophical perspective...and the history, well, it seems like you're starting the world in the 1900's and making conclusions. If you're not a religious person, do you think that affects your view point? How? And when are you starting history? What do you know about the religions of Judaism and Islam? or Even Christianity? The Jewish Diaspora? What about Pre-WW2 and Post-WW2 and the philosophers/philosophy that influenced Adolf Hitler and his Nazi's? What do these times in history have in common with current events? What people are involved? What countries then and today? Do you ever consider maybe other countries, such as Russia, may join with Iran to attack the most powerful country in the world so as to take away that title once and for all? Do you think it's only Islamic nations that hate America or do you understand the history of Russia too, so that you can understand whether or not this type of reality could/does exist? How powerful is America in your eyes? How much do know about other militaries in other countries and whether or not they've been studying ours? What about our dependance on other nations for our oil and electricity, which we need to get to/from work and then to actually work, thus, to keep our country even standing. Who do you think would be more helpful to America if it fell on its ass? The Jews/Israel or the Arab/Muslim nations who won't even take in their own refugees from Palestine and whose radical/extremist relatives multiply by the day?

    • 7 months ago
  • FallenMorgan
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • When did you stop beating your wife?
      That question is a trick and it implies that the other person was beating his wife, but we just want to know why.
      The same trick is done with the question here.
      Why do people hate Jews?
      So the question is set up to show that we already know that everyone hates the Jews, but the question is only, why do people hate them.
      Actually it is interesting that the ones who answer the question to explain why, are the ones who either already hate them or, they are Jews who feel persecuted.
      I personally feel that there are plenty of non Jews who do not hate Jews at all. They only hate the Jews who give them reason to hate them. Just like not everyone hates the Hindus. Not everyone hates the Christians unless they meet someonewho they can't stand and then hate.

      If we just look at the responses to this post, we can already figure out who is who.

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • Abraham99:

      "If we just look at the responses to this post, we can already figure out who is who."

      Excellent point.

      Perhaps though, people lurking behind the scenes will read this too. Nothing wrong with making people more aware of the condition of their heart. Now just isn't a time to hate Jewish people based on contradictions which derive from rumours and myths.

    • 7 months ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • Abraham99:

      If anything the original poster can be accused of being a race baiter by presenting a false argument that all Jews as an entire people are somehow hated by everyone.

      I know plenty of people, including myself, who don't care one way or another about Jews.

    • 7 months ago
  • Racslider
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      Racslider  
    • I would think throughout the worlds history one can isolate and target a greater more supreme "something" that dominated their neighbors, other lands etc..No one here needs a history lesson, then again...Reading some of the post's they might but, my point is this...Egypt at one time dominated, The Greeks at one time dominated, Britian, even Persia at one time...I don't think one "race" is better then another nor do I think one "religon" is more supreme then another...To me, these are tools in the hands of well educated confident people, they create fine work but so too, these "tools" in the wrong hands to be used to isolate others is not good. I happen to have my own beliefs that GOD is like the trunk of a tree with many branches (religion)..Now of course if one does not believe in God then my point will not phase that person...However; if I'm even remotely close in my beliefs (no way to "prove" them) then there is one God and many religons...I'm OK with that in fact as a very hated Conservative here (to some) we embrace this notion....You do your thing I do mine but don't tell me I'm a hater because I don't accpet or reconise "your thing"...I'm ok with other beliefs right up until they drop planes in my back yard

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • Racslider:

      Actually, there is a lot of evidence in support of Christianity. But I won't get into that here.

      If there is a God, he sure isn't going to create multiple, contradicting labrynths and shout "HERE. HERE. I'M OVER HERE....OOPS WAIT NO I'M NOT, I'M OVER HERE...NOT THERE EITHER...KEEP LOOKING..."

      No, He would be clear and logical. Full of reason. To the point. He'd make total sense. He'd never put in us the inherent concept of perfection and then not do anything to help us out.

      He would be full of compassion too. In a psychologically healthy and mentally functioning person who has a family that they love, they can begin to get an idea as to how God manages humanity as a whole and then each of us individually.

    • 7 months ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • Personally, I don’t think in terms of color… creed… sex or national origin. I take people as I find them. When I hear that Palestinians are launching rockets into the lands that once belonged to them from land that is presently disappearing under their feet, I say to myself that they have every right to do this. Israel has no rights. They stole these lands in the first place and are stealing more with each passing day. My heart is one hundred percent with the Palestinians and not at all with Israel.

      Israelis watch the carnage through binoculars and toast one another and cheer. A very large majority of Israel supports this vicious murder of children. They have the most sophisticated weapons on Earth and they prey upon their neighbors relentlessly. They caused the Afghanistan and Iraq wars which they performed with American gentile lives while wiping out over a million people. This is true and I suspect it is also anti-Semitic.

      I am determined to tell the truth. If you can show me that I am not telling the truth then I will discover this new truth and begin to speak that instead. I have been imprisoned before for telling the truth and I have no fear of it. This life of mine is a temporary thing and I would prefer to spend it on what I consider useful to others whatever the personal cost may be. I know that I am eternal so all anyone can possibly succeed at in silencing me will only involve a change of clothes and furthermore, free me to a more rarified plane.

      Those good Jews who are on this planet had better wake up to the evil being done in their name and cry out against it. When the backlash comes they may not be distinguishable from their vicious kindred in the darkness. To be called anti-Semitic in these times amounts to a badge of honor for so few of us dare to speak the truth and question the lies. We are all one body. We should act accordingly.

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • maasanova:

      Maasanova - You'd switch sides if the evidence pointed in the other direction? I don't buy it. Anyone with a brain can merely look at archeology and google the religions of Judaism and Islam, see the dates in the first paragraph and compare them. This isn't America, thus, there is more than 300 years of history to consider.

      There's plenty of truth staring you right in the face. But it's Jewish truth. And that, for reasons I can't and won't ever understand, is a hard pill for people like you to swallow.

    • 7 months ago
  • plusaf
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • I am a novelist and a singer songwriter. I’m not much of a musician but I can write and sing… yes, I can dance too. I have committed career suicide by telling the truth and asking uncomfortable questions. No doubt as my star continues to rise… as I have been told it is going to… I will be the object of focused opprobrium and find my words manipulated into something other than what they said and intend. There is nothing I can do about this.

      I’ve lived around Jews for much of my life. I have lived in the highest concentration of Jews in America for much of my life. I have decades old friendships with Jews and I am a supporter of the True Torah Jews and Neutera Karta. At no time will I ever say that all Jews are evil as I know that it is not true. What it is is that some very evil people happen to be Jews. Some of them happen to be Christians too. I’m going to tell the truth and ask the difficult questions and I don’t care what you think about me.

      When I think of the Jews I think of that nursery rhyme; “There was a little girl who had a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead and when she was good she was very, very good and when she was bad she was horrid.” That says it all.

      If I had one major criticism to make about Jews today I would say that I am very disappointed that they are not speaking out against the murders… the lies… the revisionism of history… the prosecution of people who question what ‘appears’ to be untrue. Sooner or later you are going to pay for having allowed some bad apples to poison the barrel. It is your duty as a human being to speak out against injustice and if you can’t clean your own house you shouldn’t be cleaning anyone else’s house.

      Jews make up 2% of the American public and .0025 of the world’s population yet… they control major industries that affect the entire world. They didn’t do this by being smarter than the average goy. They did this by having access to the money supply and by using it to advance their interests and to suppress the interests of others. It is a very simple thing to follow the money and to see who is printing it. We are all being victimized by counterfeiters and it’s got to stop before the world’s outrage begins to focus on those who are committing the offense and which will certainly include all Jews which it should not. Unless Jews speak up and call these psychopaths on their activities they are digging their own grave with their silence.

    • 7 months ago
  • plusaf
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • maasanova:

      Hmmm. I'm going to say it's more like this:

      After WW2, there were very few Jews left in the world. Most had been murdered. They were dirt poor. (There weren't a lot of Jews in America then either). They literally had to start from scratch. Most countries, even after the Holocaust, didn't want to deal with the homeless, broke, Jewish survivors. Infact, the reality is that America, in the beginning, probably supported the land of Israel going to the Jews because they didn't want to "deal with them". And to some degree, the suriving Jews didn't really care. They knew the only safe place would be Israel anyway.

      It has been explained to me that the Jewish people, from that point on, realized they had to take care of themselves. Thus, they went to college, many got into fields of work that were consistently in high demand and brought in a good income, such as a Dr. or Lawyer. I've always said it - the Jewish people are a wise people. Wisdom can make a LOAD of difference between failure or success. The Jewish people saved their money for their children so that they could leave them an inheritance. My generation of peers may not realize it, but their grandparents (of the Holocaust era) sure did, and therefore, my friends parents inherited most of that money, which my friends benefit from now too. Keep in mind that their parents went on to college and became something that brings in a high income, and thus, the money multiplies over generations, especially with wise investments. Their grandparents in America would have really emphasized owning property. That's wise. The ethics have been passed down. Should Jewish people be turned into evil spawns of satan just b/c they are wise with their money? No. This has nothing to do with Jews and Money just for the sake of money. It has everything to do with the fact that financial security is important to Jewish people (a mindset that was found more in their grandparents and has been passed down), you know, in case the majority of the countries around the globe, wanted to wipe them off the planet again. Which is ironic, because now once again, many nations do. Many Muslim nations. Does saying what I just said, make me hate Muslims? Absolutely not. I'm just repeating a fact that has been stated by leaders of Islamic nations.

      As I've heard from Jewish people: "The Jews don't want to rule the world. They just want to live in it."

      I don't know where you get your information from? I think it's obvious who really DOES want to rule the world. And they have probably just as much if not more, money. If I can, I will find facts on that too.

    • 7 months ago
  • Racslider
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      Racslider  
    • maasanova:

      Dude - You recommend WORLD PEACE TV on your ICON and you think you have uncovered some mass conspiracy? Yeah OK...General Eisenhower spoke of freaks like you. In fact he stated "FLIM ALL YOU SEE HERE TODAY BECUSE OTHERS WILL SAY IT NEVER HAPPENED....See pal? Your argument was toast even before you were an itch in your Daddy's Pants

    • 7 months ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • I don’t know how many died in camps or how they died. What I do know is that someone is lying and the lies that are being told are for the justification of terrible behavior in the aftermath by the survivors. I also know that Jewish lives are no more important than gentile lives. I also know that Zionist Jewish interests were responsible for more deaths in Russia and The Ukraine than ever died in Germany and Poland. I know this. This is true and it is anti-Semitic.

      At this forum I mentioned, no one has been able to refute me. They can insult me and slander me but they can’t alter the truth of what I say. I have no need to post my work there. I receive more traffic at this blog than that entire forum. People from all over the world come to this blog and they know that the things I am saying here in this essay and the things I have said in the past are true. These are informed people. I have one of the most intelligent audiences on the internet. Some portion of them could do what I do equally as well. I post at that forum because they need to hear what I say. They may seethe. Their heads may catch fire as the hot coals of denial burn their minds but… they can’t argue with what I say.

      Recently I mentioned that Jews were involved in the slave trade. There was a hue and a cry because I referenced a book from The Nation of Islam. The question is, is it true? Is it true? Yes it is true but they don’t want to hear it. Anyone who has watched the movies of the last century can see how Jewish interests in Hollywood portrayed black people. They made them as google-eyed step’n fetchits. Intelligent black academics know this. They know who the slumlords are and were and they know about many of the business industries that have profited from the black economy in their neighborhoods. I don’t want to know these things but… is it true?

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • maasanova:

      Have you not heard of the Jewish students that used to stand with the black students at college protests BECAUSE they understood what the Exodus was all about, since they remember it every Passover? I'll find the stories for you.

    • 7 months ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • "When the Truth is Anti-Semitic."

      Thinking about what to say and not having much success is where I am today. Most of the time, I am preaching to the converted here as the commentary shows. Seldom do I ever get any negative responses and we are starting to average over a hundred comments per entry. That’s a mystery to me. Out of old habit, I often will post these essays at this site where I seldom get any positive comments. The people there are mostly professionals. There are doctors and lawyers and business owners. They are all Americans except for a scattering of Canadians.

      Here I am considered an anti-Semitic. This is because the truth is anti-Semitic and if you are going to tell the truth that is what you are labeled as. Criticism of Israelis and Zionist Jews is not welcome. It wouldn’t matter what evil they may do. It is okay. Many of the people at this site are as murderous as the Israelis. They joke about the murders or they talk in convoluted circles about how complex it all is. In any case… none of it is Israel’s fault. This item in the MSM today says it all. What can anyone say to justify such evil? Nothing… there is nothing you can say.

      The people at this forum believe that Bin Laden is still alive. They believe that a handful of Stone Age Arabs attacked The World Trade Center. They believe six million Jews were executed in Germany while the death count at Auschwitz was lowered from over four million to one million. They deny the testimony of the men who were hired to build gas chambers at death camps after the war. This is truth and the truth is anti-Semitic.

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • maasanova:

      Well, I posted a holocaust video just for you. Are you going to tell me that it is a conspiracy theory? Are those not real boney bodies being thrown into the ovens? Please don't go away. You are exactly why I posted this article. Knowledge is so needed. I sometimes forget that b/c I was raised in a Jewish community, we began to watch holocaust videos at a very young age. Perhaps you never watched them?

    • 7 months ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • maasanova:

      Dude, everyone in America has obtained holocaust indoctrination at very early age, but what we weren't presented with was all the facts.

      I watched your video, and I saw Jewish suffering. I don't think there is anyone who doubts that Jews suffered, but we only have one side of the story, the Jewish Zionist story. Since everyone want's to go on about the Holocaust forever, why don't we hear all sides of the story about the Holocaust. Let's have all the facts about WW2 and the holocaust come out in all parts of the world.

      Oh wait, the Jews don't want that. The call that "holocaust denial" and they throw you in prison for it, or ruin your life with defamation.

    • 7 months ago
  • maasanova
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      maasanova  
    • Zionism as a political ideology was never mentioned in neither the Old or New Testament, and I challenge deceivers like Abraham99 to post the scriptures where it says what he claims.

      If being anti-Zionist is now the same as being an anti-Semite (Websters actually changed the definition of anti-semitism to include anti-Zionism just like Orwell predicted), then I am proud to wear that label.

    • 7 months ago
  • Abraham99
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      Abraham99  
    • Great post kjoknoswazzup!
      Most Christians are not haters, so this is hardly needed for us. However, there are those who simply follow the media. The public relations firms which the Arab Muslim community hired in 1968 to spread the wonderful greatness of Islam and to announce to the world that Israel was bad, started a whole new meaning to the word, "Zionism." However, Zionism is simply a movement that seeks a spiritual and national restoration of Israel, which is the land of Jesus and the land of the Jewish people. No one would deny that Jesus was a Jew and remained a Jew his entire life.

      The city of Jerusalem has another name. It is called Jerusalem and it is called the City of Zion. The Muslims have so twisted the word Zionism, so that today, people all over who believe the crap that the P.R. firms have spread, actually believe that Zionism is evil....which is EXACTLY what the Muslims wanted.
      Many robots walk around troday saying, "Zionism is terrible." Yet, they know what they do. They repeat just like the way people buy what is advertised often.
      Anyone who is against Zionism is against the Old and New Testaments, where it is praised.
      I will not fall for the rumors of evil spread by haters.
      I will never be an anti Semite.

    • 7 months ago
  • Racslider
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      Racslider  
    • Abraham99:

      You are correct on many levels - I think the Lefty Liberals think we were all just born last night..They have a real problem with hstroy and facts. Indeed, they call these things "rants' -"Move along folks, move along, nothing to see here...." As a Cathloic there are many of us that have bumper stickers that says "My boss was a Jewish Carpenter"...Of course Jesus was a Jew..He certainly wasn't for East LA!

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • Abraham99:

      Abraham99:

      You are a very beautiful soul. Seriously.

      I couldn't have said that better myself. It's like you read my brain only you sorted it out for me ;).

      Thanks for the support. I was feeling pretty crappy b/c you know how much I love my Lord and his people! They are my heart. So, I wasn't sure if I had made a mistake or not. Just the title alone is hard for me to read.

    • 7 months ago
  • plusaf
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  • Racslider
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      Racslider  
    • plusaf:

      @ Plusaf - Y- Thank You! :) I'm glad someone other then I remembers such things..However, I see another post by someone that doesn't seem to agree..Seems a bit on the cranky side...Lots of F-bombs...and Exclimation points...Lets go see what all the grip is about...:)

    • 7 months ago
  • plusaf
  • Racslider
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      Racslider  
    • plusaf:

      @ Plusaf - It has been said that more people have been killed in the name of God more then any other reason. While I can take or leave this argument in and for that context - I am of the faith that killing (I don't mean as ordered in War) is probably neither a good political or religious tool. If one kills or takes life just because they can - Well, My old school Catholic upbringing says there will be a judgment day...I'm not sure there will ever be an end to such conflict. In the Bible (not sure about what the Torah says) but in the Bible Jesus clearly states "There will always be wars and roomers of wars" and..."There will always be masters and slaves" - Thus, I can live with that. I mock those that seek such a Utopia place on the earth...It just can not be. As for the Jews and Catholics - we support the Jewish people, in fact nearly instructed to. in some ways. Most older school Catholics clearly understand that the Jews should not be screwed with because first and foremost - They are the Chosen people of God. I don't about anyone else but to me, Its pretty clear instructions. When the debate comes around who actually crucified Jesus well, in some ways is was both however as you probably know Even though it was the Romans who were in Charge and Pontius Pilate said "I was my hands with this man" and turned him over to the Jewish crowd, Rome was not "Catholic" as they are known to be today or since that time. They had they're own self serving agenda. Had they actually been Catholic, they probably would not have done that...But then of course....Catholics didn't come about until after Christ got whacked.

      Rac

    • 7 months ago
  • Racslider
  • plusaf
  • Racslider
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      Racslider  
    • plusaf:

      @Plusaf - Interesting post and view...Well, TO some they like to take that Niche approach (can't spell his name)..When he said "Did God create man or did man create God"? Lending thought to the idea of, does man need to feel there is something bigger then him. To me I have my Bronx street version of explaining this and then my "nice guy" side...(nice guy? me?) - Puh! Anyway, My street "preacher" side lays it out this way...If you don't think there is a God and you’re right then at the end of this life...When you die its Black, "zero" Goose Egg...Nothing, Cipher, zilch...!!

      On the Other hand, If I'm right - Your screwed...

      My Nice guy side puts to bed the Big Bang Theory. This leaving no other alternative of how the universe and "WE" got here...In fact I have that proof you spoke of....When people tell me about the big bang Theory and point to all the craters and "evidence" I chuckle. No, I don't dispute that some could have smashed into the earth as you say. But your ALSO saying this is how life began...So lets test it shall we? Here, I will take this very dead rock and throw it as hard as I can smashing it into that other "dead" rock...Let me know when you notice the tadpoles....:) Oh Wait...I got it...*Poof* its an "earth shake", right? :0 Mockery...Oh how I adore it so much...hahaha

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • plusaf:

      Plusaf,

      Of course I wasn't excited about posting this article. However, as a non-Jewish person, I probably get to hear more freely, what other non-Jewish people (regular, everyday Joe's) are saying about Jewish people. It's horrible and makes me sick, but it's happening - still. Nos. 1-5 above, are being said. I would bet my life on it that most of the people on this site that harbor ill-will towards Israel, say these things in real life too. They associate Jewish people and Israel, so naturally, there is a connection.

      For the liberals that claim they don't say these things, than okay, I'm glad they don't. But damn. They need to get a clue as to what the Jewish people HAVE and DO put up with. They need to think before they speak sometimes. They need to grow in awareness of Jewish history. At least that is my humble opinion.

      I think the Rabbi does a good job at clarifying how such things don't make sense...how they contradict themselves. And he's right, the Jewish people, per the things that people say about them, are damned if they do, damned if they don't. It's ridiculous and these things need to be taken out of the closet once and for all. I know that it hurts a little bit. It's not as if I like having to address these things. But I feel I need to.

      I'm sorry if I offended you though. If you told me to take it down, I would honor that.

      PS. One main thing I realize about the Holocaust is that it didn't have to happen. But non-Jewish people didn't do anything. So, I don't sit around now and keep quiet. I once saw a Jewish man ask "Where were all the Americans during the Holocaust?" It made me cry. I heard him loud and clear.

    • 7 months ago
  • plusaf
  • Racslider
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      Racslider  
    • II have read this post and the posted threads. Fist of all People need to understand one can hate whom ever they want. - There is no crime there although, many of the younger crowd as been taught to think this is a crime. One's right to hate another stops at the tip of one's nose. So, I can hate Muslims all I want if I choose but, as long as I don't hurt them, deny them something and no crime is committed I have this right.

      #2) Jews and History; There are 2 arguments here that is being missed (a) The Biblical side and (b) the Historical side. - These arguments can not be mixed and must be kept separated.

      The Short version of the Biblical side is from the Old Testament. God warned that the Jews will suffer for many generations for their disobedience and History will show they have.

      The short version of the logical argument is; Prior to 1948 they were known as a people with out a land. Jews we're not "thrown out" nearly as much as they were defeated in conflicts many times over. "Thrown out" gives a different picture. It suggests that Jews told to leave when in actuality, they would from time to time conquer their adversary, enjoy life for a while only to be defeated later by another Army.

      This "hate" for the Jews was a much stronger term applied prior to WWII and after WWI. In Hitler's book Mein Kamp - that he wrote while in prison spoke of this crazy rage and hate for the Jew. He cites his reasons to events after WWI when Germany lie in ruins. There was no "rebuilding" of a nation as there is today or even as we did with Japan. Jews like any and most groups pretty much stuck together...After WWI many Jews who fled later returned to set up their shops and begin their lives over. Hitler was enraged that while Germans were starving The Jewish people opened deli's shops, clothing stores etc..and as he put it "charged full price" to GERMANS. This clearly didn't sit well with him and history shows what real hate is for another. It was also during this time where nasty remarks were coined about the Jews - "Cheap Jew" or I have been "Jew'ed"....
      As a raised Catholic, we were taught that the Jews are the "Chosen" people of God. In short, what was a sin for us, the Jew would get a "get out of jail free" card so to speak.

      The Current hate for the Jews began in 1948 when the UN declared Israel a nation. The Muslims were enraged with this feeling that from the Golan Heights to the Sinai was part of Persia. One day after Israel was declared a nation they were attacked by 5 countries; Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq...This "love affair" between Muslims and Jews continues and many Muslim nations turned their anger towards the USA and Britain for supporting Israel. - So just as a FYI to the Younger crowd...It wasn't Bush's fault...as you may have heard - Its been going on since 1948

      Rac

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • Racslider:

      Thanks for sharing, Racslider.

      I wanted to mention that the Hebrew Bible (even the New Testament) can be relied upon a lot as a historical book too. Josephus often verified much of what was said in the Bible. Just a quick link to check out who he is (I'm sure you know of him though): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus. As I mentioned today on here to a Muslim guy I've gotten into a conversation with, The Jewish people, religious or not, should be able to rely upon the Bible as a historical source too, because the Muslims rely on their Holy Book. Also, no one can deny tangible evidence such as archeology. And that is all over the place in Jerusalem, which is mentioned 600 times in the Hebrew Bible, but not once in the Koran, which states Mecca as it's holiest place.

      Here's a good link that describes the "love affair" you mentioned.

      http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/jihadterr/raceagainsttime.pdf

      A little positive news:

      http://www.arabsforisrael.com/

    • 7 months ago
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • I still don't get the hate part . The government of Israel is doing wrong . I have dear friends who are jewish . There are good people and bad , everywhere . People who want to hate can be manipulated towards specific targets . Hitler was deliberate in this . A better distinction could be made if we observe who amasses power . Chances are , they need to be watched , cannot be trusted . The powerful will always want the masses at each others' throats , so we cannot unite , and turn on them .

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • Wow! This is the most activity I've gotten on a post. It's interesting how when you put "Hate & Jew" in the title, all the creepy crawlies come out of the woodwork.

    • 7 months ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
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      metalcookiesxy70  
    • kjoknoswazzup:

      I destroyed Jiminycricket, YES I DONE IT!!~
      It was fun too...~

      Because he is doing exactly what you are doing promoting hate speech....

      You hate Muslims right?

      Of course you do, why would you not try to?

      I already know you are Christian,and you only want everyone to believe your selfishness, built upon your hate, it could only be resolved by destroying you, but you're lucky, because I have to go...

      >>>>Goodbye

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
  • WorldPeaceTV
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      WorldPeaceTV  
    • Zionism is Evil. it is the evil that is destroying the world today-zionism is full of GREED, and MURDER. There are many people that are Zionists-not just jews. The Israeli government is evil

    • 7 months ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • metalcookiesxy70:

      You will need to actually read the article to understand that it's a rabbi explaining the contradictions involved with the reasons people give for hating Jewish people. Hello? That's the POINT of the article. It's meant to get you to think about your reasons for not liking Jewish people.

      Don't say anything bad about JiminyCricket. He's not on here anymore. What did you do? Turn him in to the Current Police? I don't promote hate on here. If you think that about me, which you probably do, then once again you're not doing your homework and jumping to conclusions. I actually try to find reliable resources for your people to read that verifies the facts behind particular issues. Some of which is on the history of the issue. Even stuff written by Palestian Muslims so that you don't think it's all biased information. What else can I do?

    • 7 months ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
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      metalcookiesxy70  
    • metalcookiesxy70:

      I destroyed Jiminycricket, YES I DONE IT!!~
      It was fun too...~

      Because he is doing exactly what you are doing promoting hate speech....

      You hate Muslims right?

      Of course you do, why would you not try to?

      I already know you are Christian,and you only want everyone to believe your selfishness, built upon your hate, it could only be resolved by destroying you, but your lucky, because I have to go...

      >>>>Goodbye

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • metalcookiesxy70:

      Wow. It really makes me sad to hear you think I hate Muslims. But that tells me you're not reading what I post or what I say, at least not in context.

      Maybe being on this website is a waste of my time.

      I don't see how you can accuse me of being hateful when you and your friends go around saying that the Israeli government is evil and so much stuff to put the Jews in a negative light.

    • 7 months ago
  • Bren589
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Knowledge is to goodness as ignorance is to evil.

      Knowing and not acting is evil, acting without knowing is evil.

      Perhaps there has been a lot of ignorance that has led to the evil actions.

    • 7 months ago
  • Highr0ller
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      Highr0ller [removed]  
    • Here I am considered an anti-Semitic. This is because the truth is anti-Semitic and if you are going to tell the truth that is what you are labeled as. Criticism of Israelis and Zionist Jews is not welcome. It wouldn’t matter what evil they may do. It is okay. Many of the people at this site are as murderous as the Israelis. They joke about the murders or they talk in convoluted circles about how complex it all is. In any case… none of it is Israel’s fault. This item in the MSMtoday says it all. What can anyone say to justify such evil? Nothing… there is nothing you can say.

    • 7 months ago
  • kjoknoswazzup
  • Highr0ller
  • kjoknoswazzup
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      kjoknoswazzup  
    • Highr0ller:

      You have a very ugly heart. That's out of my hands. I'm not into the heart changing business. I'd like you to face God and tell him how much you hate the Jews. Lemme know how that works out for you. Peace out.

    • 7 months ago

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