John Stewart lays into Lou Dobbs and attorney/dentist/realtor/birther: Video
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http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/23/stewart-lays-into-dobbs-attorn...
After CNN’s Kitty Pilgrim, filling in for host Lou Dobbs on July 17, thoroughly debunked the “birther” conspiracy — which suggests, entirely without tangible proof, that President Barack Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen — Dobbs returned to the airwaves July 20, amazingly suggesting “the [birthers'] questions won’t go away because they haven’t been dealt with.”On Wednesday night, Dobbs’ stark lack of factual continuity became prime target for the man Time Magazine’s readers voted America’s “most trusted newscaster.”
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bailey78
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umm Ok!
- 7 months ago
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bailey78
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artemis6
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Willful ignorance is the worst threat we have .
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artemis6
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DaveLepelletier
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Q. If Lou Dobbs thinks that there are still unanswered questions, why doesn't he, as a newsman, send a staffer to Hawaii to obtain a copy of the birth certificate?
A. Because a misinformed debate brings in more ratings than a rational discussion with a purpose.
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DaveLepelletier
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MinneapolisMafia
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DaveLepelletier:
Well said
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MinneapolisMafia
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ras_menelik
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Moment of Zen
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ras_menelik
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Tankguy
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The fact that right wingers are desperate enough to still be pontificating over whether or not Obama was born in this country just shows how defeated and infantile the right wing is. Its funny how they never made this much noise about GW Bush's stealing of first election. A logical thinking person would be far more concerned about the legitimacy of a president's election than the origin of his birth.
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Tankguy
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MinneapolisMafia
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Tankguy:
Alex Jones at www.infowars.com has been consistent for years. He slammed Bush daily. Many do not like his style of delivery including me but I promote him because his facts are sourced and documented. I have spent hundreds of hours researching his reporting because I couldn't believe it only to find out it's all true.
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MinneapolisMafia
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MinneapolisMafia
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Tankguy:
Right or Left...more divide and conquer. The fact remains that we are at war killing and imprisoning peaceful people.....
the best of the 'right' Ron Paul
the best of the 'left' Dennis Klucinich - 7 months ago
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MinneapolisMafia
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current89
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Very well done, always liked Jon Stewart. The "birthers" always ignore the facts.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certifi...The photo above is a digitally scanned copy of Obama's real birth certificate. there are about ten other close up photos of it.
To quote Lawrence O'Donnell. "Conspiracy theories are for the weak minded. "
- 7 months ago
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current89
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MinneapolisMafia
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current89:
snopes is wack! They don't mention Build 7 at all!? I don't even care about where that scum bag was born. He is continuing the wars and that is good enough for me to denounce him as the President and call for his Impeachment! He is a war criminal just like Bush.
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MinneapolisMafia
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MinneapolisMafia
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current89:
To quote myself TV and politicians are for the weak minded.
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MinneapolisMafia
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jh64487
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current89:
yet your on here blogging away mini.
...how odd
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jh64487
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jdaniels2310
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jdaniels2310
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MinneapolisMafia
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I really don't care where this piece of shit was born! LOL! He is still continuing the wars on terror and drugs and has doubled the tripling of government that happened over the past 8 or so years! Wake up folks! John Stewart is a fine entertainer but a distraction along the lines of CNN or Baseball, ect.... the facts of the tyranny remain.
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MinneapolisMafia
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cztheday
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MinneapolisMafia:
So Prez O "doubled the tripling of government?" And you say this was "tyranny" on his part, correct?
Can I assume first that you mean the FEDERAL Government? We both know that he has neither power nor influence with regard to state, county or municipal governments -- but believe me, there are a fair number of regular contributors here at Current who DON'T understand jurisdictional differences, so I want to be sure we are at least on the same chapter if not the same page.
So limiting ourselves to the feds, you say that he "doubled" a "tripling," suggesting two separate events. Did he or Bush do the initial "tripling?" Now as to the nature of these events...do you mean the number of Federal gov't jobs? The size of the federal budget? The size of the deficit? The debt?
And regardless of WHAT was being increased -- HOW did OBAMA increase spending when the President has no such authority? I am sure you remember that Bush had to go to Congress just to get 50 billion or 100 billion to continue to fund our invasion of Iraq and our slaughter of thousands of women, children and infants.
I have been observing your string of posts, MM. You seem to make a great deal of the notion that YOU (personally) don't believe this or that fact. Usually, however, one must establish a reputation for a certain degree of intellectual rigor before one has earned "the benefit of the doubt." But these wild allegations (the double tripling) and clear unfamiliarity with government processes and structure don't inspire confidence in any of your other representations. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Doubtless you will rage and rip and tear in response to this. But my criticisms are sincerely as tame as I could make them. I am not trying to make you look bad or to be an asshole about this. It is just that I think your posts would command a lot more respect if you said something like "Obamal to Congress: I will veto any bill that does not at last double annual deficit." At that point, you at least have SOME kind of evidence and confirmation to back up your allegations...
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cztheday
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MinneapolisMafia
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MinneapolisMafia:
Ah HAH! Well some one read what I wrote and had a decent response! Thank You! YES indeed the President tripled has no power! This is what I was fishing for. Yes When Bush was the puppet President the Fed Reserve tripled our Debt'. And Yes in the last 9 1/2 months so much money has been printed (some say 24 trillion) that one can say that that tripling has been doubled while Obama has been puppet President of 2008-2012! This is exactly where I'm attempting to pull all the Sheep ( I do not mean You, sir) to look at the power structure. The President is under the Fed Reserve and it's Banker Cabal and the Military Industrial Complex! This is the killing machine that Obama cannot stop! If he tries to Blatantly stop the wars on drugs and terror and (like Kennedy printing Silver Notes) attempts to usurp the Fed Re-swerve ;-) he will be 'Kennedyed' -aka offed-aka made an example of-. This is where I tell Obama fans, sure he may be a charming man, even a nice man, but if does anything for We The People, Biden will be President? It saddens me to say crap like this, but I believe it has to be said.
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MinneapolisMafia
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CreditFigaro
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MinneapolisMafia:
And yet, still no facts or anything of value.
You know that federal reserve surplus is funneled back into the federal budget, right?
Of course, much (about 50% or so) of the interest that the government pays on t-bills (the federal reserve's tool of monetary control) goes to china, right?
This deficit does make some people rich. However, the majority of investment in our country is NOT in the public debt. The largest finance firm in the world manages much more money, alone, than the balance of the public debt.
What is the ultimate goal, here? To try to tell us that... wait, corporate interest is... in control of the country?
Isn't that what most liberals have been saying all along?
Isn't that an incentive to do all the things that improve the public good and fuck rich people in the ass? Such as:
Nationalized, single payer healthcare
Increased taxes on the rich. How many people are going to be upset about a 50%, 70%, 90% marginal tax rate on those who earn more than 1 million bucks per annum? (that does weaken all of those super rich people you are saying control the country... doesn't it?
Legalizing pot
Reduction of the military
etc.
Come on, man. Get on the bus with the rest of us.
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CreditFigaro
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MinneapolisMafia:
The truly 'rich' don't pay taxes.... bottom line is I'm not into big government.... Sure we could both post links and big long replies here. Brother I am on the love hope and peace bus. We're in the same boat. It's ok. I believe all of this is much more corrupt that most people on Current....not really that big of a deal. hugs
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MinneapolisMafia
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CreditFigaro
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MinneapolisMafia:
haha, yeah, there is plenty of evidence to suggest major corruption on a level that we don't quite fathom.
Like: Why congress seems to need so little in campaign contributions to become so corrupt?
If it was working like a free market (i.e. not influenced by something else) wouldn't two competing sides of an issue have to up the ante constantly? You'd think that the cost to buy out the government would appreciate with the relative value that it nets the "investors." Oddly enough, campaign contributions remain "pocket change" and yet interest groups see tremendous returns on their "investments."
Curious.
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CreditFigaro
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MinneapolisMafia
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MinneapolisMafia:
WELL SAID!
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MinneapolisMafia
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cztheday
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My six months participating here at Current have been eye-opening in a number of different ways. I find that I have both MORE hope for our nation and LESS hope for our young people than before.
But perhaps the most dismaying observation has been how many people sincerely appear to believe that History is more a matter of interpretation (or wishful thinking) than fact. To the contrary, while we can (and do) debate the MEANING of the facts, the facts themselves are immutable. So if, for example, the Declaration of Independence was issued on July 4, 1776, we can debate whether that timing had certain ramifications during the War, no amount of debate can change that date to July 3rd.
But those are precisely the kinds of mind-numbing discussions I see every day now. If a certain fact is inconsistent with some commenter's view of the world,,,he or she will just make up a "better" fact and then attack the character of any who dare to correct them. Call me old fashioned, but I see this kind of conduct as being...bad.
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cztheday
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hammywill
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cztheday:
I am not sure I understand the point to your comment. Could you elaborate?
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hammywill
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eden49
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cztheday:
Hi C'day...great post, apropos..."never ruin a good story with the truth"...Eden...
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eden49
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wirehedd
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cztheday:
You got that right CZ. It is bad and wrong and rampant.
When people are being lied to daily without access to the actual "facts" they then feel a need to rely on the "opinions stated as fact" that they ARE exposed to.
This, my friend, is the basis of the modern right wing philosophy. Who needs truth and facts when we can tell them what we want the facts and truth to be?
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wirehedd
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WhiteNoise
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cztheday:
INDEED...
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous“ - Carl Sagan
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WhiteNoise
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couldntfindausername
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cztheday:
I see the problem as stemming from the habit of insisting that everyone is special and "entitled to their opinion" with no regard to its basis in actual fact or intellectual analysis.
Personally, I employ a bullshit detector type strategy to anything presented as "news". It's simple really, just ask yourself whether the idea smells fishy, or how big a chunk of belief are you being asked to swallow.
In this case the idea we are being asked to swallow is that a man rose to the presidency of the US without anyone in power, any institution, any investigators, any background checks or any of the thousands of bureaucrats involved noticing that he wasn't, in fact, American. At the same time, we are expected to swallow the notion that one little psychotic woman in a meeting DID notice it.
Lunacy of the highest order.
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couldntfindausername
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WhiteNoise
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cztheday:
RIGHT...
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” – Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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WhiteNoise
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jubal
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cztheday:
History is written by the victors.
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jubal
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pjacobs51
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What part of "proof" do they not understand?
GG Jon!
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pjacobs51
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WhiteNoise
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STEWART & COLBERT RULES OVER A WASTELAND !
The INMATES : A SOAP MADE IN USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzPJPHVjc78&feature=channel_pageThe mere fact that one has to be well informed to get the jokes is the prerequisite that puts the Stewart fan above the... what 95% of the rest of Americans in political awareness & literacy ?
Even better, it proves that life outside the Mindfuck Inc. rhetoric & dumbing down of america is entirely possible. Olberman & Maddow are direct consequences of this trend... YES the powers that be realized that there is money to be made in intelligent media ...
Now if the rest of us could learn how to read ;)
WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND...
"As long as each individual is facing the television tube alone, formal freedom poses no threat to privilege" " Noam Chomsky
Just for the fun of testing this, oh so wonderful new found openness in media & expression of dissent; ask Obama, as Michael Moore did with W, to see the tape shot by one of the numerous cameras that were confiscated around the Pentagon on 9-11� hey, I love a good 757 crash as much as a good caper ;)
You"ll see how far facts, logic & science will bring you in America...
Have a "magic bullet" !
Meanwhile...
"We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane." - Jules Carlysle
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WhiteNoise
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shroomfairy
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Love Jon Stewart!
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shroomfairy
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bansheewail
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The disinformation infecting US politics only makes us weaker as a nation. The "truth" used to be the ultimate goal of professional journalism. The craft is being destroyed by those who are more interested in power-brokering and pandering than they are reporting the news. Meanwhile, the fake news becomes the news because it's so fake. And, the real issues we should be discussing never make it into a sphere of dialogue rooted in reality. This betrayal divides and confuses us all. Is there anything more Unamerican?? We quibble over wheather or not our President is an illegal alien, while Goldman Sachs hands out millions in taxpayer bailout funds as bonuses to executives that drove their company into the ground. "Watch the birdy, America.......NO! over here......watch the birdy......"
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bansheewail