NYC trying to ship out the homeless

Hear hear! Natives, unite!

mmm... a bit too long I think. Liable to get weeds in your propeller at that speed.

Your not a city you an exclusivity. This place was built by the rich for the rich. It would be hard to live in a place like this if you are not the typical american family with the typical american family values. Say hello to Wally and the Beave for me.

ooorrrr.... you could look at it like this... if i went to new york, got sick, lost my disability due to the fact that this country is a mess and wanted to go back to my family in Puerto Rico or wherever- but no one could afford to fly me there- i would thank god that someone gave me a ticket home.

i still don't believe that every single thing needs to be a rant. when you are homeless there are many more things telling you that you are a problem than someone giving you a ticket home. i think it sucks that every time someone tries to think outside the box they are shot down.

please tell me what you would do to help solve the homeless problem? (i'm totally serious and not being sarcastic)

redvelvet1278, I do not see one size fits all solution to the homeless problem. I see this as many problems that lead to one result - homelessness.
Some homeless can be reunited with the family who cares about them. Other homeless are in desperate need of long term mental health care. Some may need financial help, home they can afford, a job that can support ALL basic needs and a hopeful path to financial recovery. And we should not forget there are many who need medical treatment or drug addiction treatment. In each case the most important requirement for successful outcome is the support system and a realistic plan to stay on the path to recovery (financial, mental, or addiction).

oddly, redvelvet and Mother...I agree with you both.

did anyone actually READ this story? or are you just ranting. that is way off the mark medina...
i don't get it, people just love to yell and scream and ... not read?

transport isn't that expensive. Just hop on a greyhound.

And WHY can't they live there? We're establishing an economic caste system. We all know that officially are most concered with $$$$. They are probably thinking: "Well, they are an eyesore, and they are hurting our budgets" so 1000.00 could save us 30+k by pawning them off on other cities...I mean, God forbid we have to help them."

LOL...recently San Fransisco ranked 7th worst in treatment of the homeless...in fact, earlier this year they installed "homeless meters" http://www.nbcbayarea.com/around-town/real-estate/San-Francisco-is-Mean-to-the-H...

its not social it's economic. Homeless pople cost money. it's cheaper to send them away and make other people spend money on them than to do it themselves.

it reminds me of that time in the 80s when Castro in response to demands from the US allow people to emigrate obligingly opened his prisons and sent over all his murderers and rapists.

Occhipij, the economic "caste system" of New York City started YEARS AGO.

If you don't believe me, try to legally rent an apartment in manhattan. Better yet... try to buy one. Can't do it with less than $1 MILLION in your bank account. And as for renting, you need to have a SERIOUS cushion of dough (or some well-off family members living within the five boroughs who are willing to "co-sign") simply to put your name on a lease.

I don't care WHY the city is doing this, or whether they give people plane tickets or bus tickets. This is helping human beings stay alive. Yes, of course the city's main motive is to reduce the budget for feeding & housing the huge homeless population in NYC. Obviously! That's City Hall doing their job. And if, in the process, someone is given a chance to live a better life, with better opportunities, in a safer environment (where they're not likely to be knifed by another homeless person for a $20 bill, or sent to jail for panhandling to feed their family), I still say that is a good thing.

No one is being told to leave NYC - they are just being handed an opportunity to start a better life for themselves by the city that (ironically) probably killed their dreams in the first place. Stop acting as if this is some sort of forced mass exodus. Please READ THE ARTICLE. No one is being kicked out or driven away against their consent. This is an OPTION that people can take advantage of. No one is taking away a human being's right to live wherever they choose.

I'd say...a way to get them out of their sights....that just happens to save the city some money (a little of column A. a little of column B.)

You're describing the reasons I left my hometown...

Never thought I'd move out of NYC, but I couldn't take the hipster mentality anymore. My parents grew up in a very, very different NYC, and it is so sad to see how things have changed....

yes we're a nation of double-speakers its a uniquely american tradition.

I totally agree. Shipping homeless out is a total reactionary approach to fixing the problem. The same "business model" band aid placed on all of capitalism quick fixes. If we are to see real solutions the underlying problem of what causes homelessness needs to be confronted. How bout taking the profit incentive out of peoples lives and where they live? Sounds like a plan! Socialize all housing, no real estate market = no homelessness

not sure I'm ready to jump on the socialization band wagon...I prefer to see the checks and balances that were originally written into our system of government doing their job, and actually implementing and applying those measures that the forefathers intended to keep greed, avarice and power in check.

But you cannot implement checks and balances if you are a spineless self centered politician...and therein lies the biggest part of the problem. Our representatives have sold their souls to the corporate elite, and so, our entire system of governing has gone the way of the aristocracy this country was established to reject.

you should adopt one

maybe valenzuela??

Its Hawaii actually, mad homeless people from N.Y were given one way tickets to Hawaii a few years back. The Locals got pissed so I'm sure it's stopped.

Free showers, Warm all the time, hawaii...

they were called "work houses".

There was a proposition to do something similar at one point... paying minimum wage to clean trains, buses, subways and the like for minimum wage and then if they stayed in the shelters, they would be charged rent, it was something like 15 a night... so essentially they could work three hours a day and have a bed shower and a hot dinner and breakfast... but it was deemed it would cost to much... how is that for fiscal conservancy for you...

I agree. I think that not only should the bums get a chance to do mindless labor, but that we should make prisoners work for free--ALL prisoners. It would save the economy no doubt. Slavery practically built this country anyways, may as well not let them just sit in a cage all day- put those people to work and let them gain a skill.

I suspect it was deemed to be illegal. Work houses are famous. Ever read or watch Oliver Twist?

Yeah, I did, did you? He is not in an orphanage for very long in that book... and there was no slave labor...

Do that and they'll all flock to San Francisco, Golden Gate Park specifically.

until other cities start sending them back. "I'll see your 5 homeless and raise you 2 gang bangers ad a sex offender."

"City officials say none of the relocated families have returned to city shelters"

did you read this? it appears to be working.

I don't think bombastinator read the article...

Yeah... I don't think that bombastinator read the article either. It's that or he is just fishing. That's why I didn't respond to his comment.

I read it. I wouldn't necessarily send the same homeless people back. But I'm sure I could find some homeless person to go. If I was a leader in another city and I caught nyc doing this to me I would do it right back.

@bombastinator... If you read it then you would realize that they are not just sending random homeless people to random cities. One requirement is that the homeless people that they are buying the tickets for must have family to stay with at their destination. If there are families living in NYC that are willing to take in a family member that has fallen on hared times and another city was willing to pay for their travel, I do not think anyone in NY should have a problem with it. I guess I just don't get your point.

Brrrrr that's cold man

There is a saying you should always try to remember before posting about people less fortunate than yourself:

"There but for the grace of God go I"

The only thing that separates you from the homeless are a couple of unpaid electric bills. Think about that before you judge.

Liberals aren’t to blame for NYCs homeless problem. Remember that Ronald Reagan sent thousands of mentally ill patients out on the streets when he took office.

I’m not blaming conservatives or Republicans for the homeless. I’m pointing out that this is an American problem, not a conservative or liberal problem.

well there used to be institutions for them but Reagan pushed them out onto the street. (where a lot of them almost immediately died but not all of 'em) I guess tossing them onto someone else's doorstep is one way to do it. They'll get tossed back of course.

If I was a mayor and found out the NYC mayor was Dumping their homeless on me I'd send two back for every one they gave me, announce it in NYC, and possibly FedEx the man one of my recent bowel movements to boot.

As for "back in the 50s" don't you mean back before black people could legally use a public restroom, and therefore venture out of their own neighborhoods.

bombastinator, bold truth and well stated ... :)

Thats our charlie. Another old white man pining for the days when women and negros knew their place in the world.

You need to read my other posts before you put your foot in your mouth, mik. I guess because I support Black conservatives who speak out against racial quotas and affirmitive action (thereby supporting genuine equality) that drives you nuts. Just too bad MLK, Jr. was a Republican, eh?