Income Inequality Is At An All-Time High: STUDY
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/14/income-inequality-is-at-a_n_...
Income inequality in the United States is at an all-time high, surpassing even levels seen during the Great Depression, according to a recently updated paper by University of California, Berkeley Professor Emmanuel Saez. The paper, which covers data through 2007, points to a staggering, unprecedented disparity in American incomes. On his blog, Nobel prize-winning economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman called the numbers "truly amazing."...or truly depressing if you're not in the top 0.01%
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kris5747
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Income inequality is a sin? a problem? wrong? how? Why should someone with an education costing 100s of thousands of dollars, doing work that most people wouldn't have the INTELLECT to do, even with the education, be making the same as those who sat down on their butts after high school and started watching television and eating potato chips, with infrequent breaks to go flip burgers? What is this new kind of "justice" that says those who don't exert themselves are entitled to as much recompense as those who work their asses off? That, for those progressives who don't GET it, is what America is about!
PS: tbowman131, that's not what Reagan did. Do your homework before you open your mouth and make a fool of yourself! And millionaires are entitled to keep what they earn. Most of them are first generation rich, and WORKED for their money. Not to mention, the top 1% of taxpayers pay about 85% of tax revenues. I notice you don't mention how much tax revenues "skyrocketed" when Reagan dropped the top marginal tax rate from 70% to 28%! - 7 months ago
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kris5747
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tbowman131
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kris5747:
kris: notice how i put links in my post. they are called references. i notice that yours doesn't have any. who should do their homework?
and revenues went up because the economy grew AND he raised taxes elsewhere. let's see what a noble prize winning economist has to say:
"But real revenues per capita grew only 19 percent over the same period — better than the likely Bush performance, but still nothing exciting. In fact, it’s less than revenue growth in the period 1972-1980 (24 percent) and much less than the amazing 41 percent gain from 1992 to 2000.
Is it really possible that all the triumphant declarations that the Reagan tax cuts led to a revenue boom — declarations that you see in highly respectable places — are based on nothing but a failure to make the most elementary corrections for inflation and population growth? Yes, it is. I know we’re supposed to pretend that we’re having a serious discussion in this country; but the truth is that we aren’t."
- 7 months ago
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tbowman131
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tbowman131
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is it just a coincidence that income inequality began skyrocketing in the early 80s, at the same time that Reagan dropped the top marginal tax rate from 70% to 28% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics) and increased the FICA tax by 12% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply-side_economics)?
so to all the reagan fans out there, if you aren't a millionaire, why would you be a fan of a man who slashed taxes on millionaires while simultaneously increasing taxes on the middle class?
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tbowman131
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kennymotown
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tbowman131:
Thanks for the info tbowman131, and you got it right about the total onslaught on the middle class starting in the early 80s. I appreciate your input I am not sure what to do with myself today my little sister died in her sleep last night at age 51, she had a lot of problems mentally and physically as well. I don't think I am up to fighting the ignorance on the right, but if I need to escape i will comment later. keep up the fight!
- 7 months ago
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kennymotown
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tbowman131
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tbowman131:
im sorry to hear that.
i'll try to fight the good fight for ya
- 7 months ago
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tbowman131
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kennymotown
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Obviously the facts always get in the way of these capitalist. When you have had enough of this crap you will hit the streets but the streets will have disappeared from lack of infrastructure and the pot holes alone will consume any one on the street. The fire department won't be around to rescue you because they also will have been lost because we just can't tax the rich. The gangs that are running the streets will have killed anyone who ventures out into this new wilderness because the cops have all quite because of the chaos like they did in katrina. So much for a civilized society it will be survival of the fittest and the rich will be gone to Costa Rico or some place with an army they have paid for. Keep up the slide into turmoil this is going to be better than Quinton Tarratino film.
- 7 months ago
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kennymotown
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WakeUpPeople
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There is clearly something wrong when some CEOs make more in an hour than many of their employees make in a year. There needs to be a reasonable cap on compensation for the execs. I'm not saying that they don't deserve to be rich. I'm saying that they don't deserve to be stinking filthy rich, while the people that helped them make their fortune are struggling to make ends meet.
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WakeUpPeople
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artemis6
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It used to be a loathsome thing , unearned income . To make money off of others without producing anything , without contributing yourself . People who inherited wealth would often volunteer , or contribute back to the community they got their wealth from , because of this . I hope we can remember the wisdom of this thinking . If they are too greedy to do it themselves , tax away ...
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artemis6
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jh64487
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a ringing DUH seems appropriate here.
tax the rich fuckers. tax them, tax the people who get their wealth, and tax people who make money off of that.
real fact, 5% of the us population owns 50% of the wealth.
TAX NOW!
- 7 months ago
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jh64487
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LemonHarangue
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i actually used this graph to back my argument with my friend about how raging capitalism is bad and how the rich are too rich.
- 7 months ago
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LemonHarangue
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Macol
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I think the issue comes in more so when you think about who the media is representing. They cater to the wealthy. So when we hear about "economic improvements" they are really referring to the upper class.
So the rest of the country tries to catch up. We buy houses and expensive cars/watches/cloths. All on credit of course, because some part of us feels that if the people on TV are doing it, why can't we?
Unfortunately it's self defeating and in the long term we're only feeding the wealthy.
We need real change in the dynamic of this country. But we are such pacifists it's agonizing to watch.
If the Democratic party acted as aggressively as the Republicans I would respect them more. That sounds off topic, but they are the only ones wiling to tax the wealthy... but they have no spine!
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Macol
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kennymotown
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The economy will not rebound to where it needs to be unless the lower to middle class have significant raises in pay or the rich being taxed the hell out of. Speaking of the 50s the upper tax bracket was at 91% after the first 3.4 million and 25% on every thing below that 3.4 million. It kept CEOs in check so they had to reinvest in their own employees and company. CEOs back then stayed with a company for thirty years instead of jumping from one company to another and destroy it's bottom line for investors that only pay 15% sitting around the pool drinking margaritas. When they changed that tax code during the Reagan administration and dropped that investor class rate to 15% thats when it all started to go to shit and the war on the middle class started.
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kennymotown
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GodsnLiberals
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kennymotown:
nah this is the part in your life where YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO TELL CHILDREN the dangers of a reckless and liberal lifestyle AND TO STAY IN SCHOOL AND DONT SO DRUGS or else they grow up just like you..whining your way up the "corporate ladder" or next pay raise..
loser
- 7 months ago
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GodsnLiberals
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tbowman131
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kennymotown:
love the post kenny, but you have your timeline a bit off. it was W who changed the taxation of dividends from ordinary income to capital gains.
to give you some appreciation of how much this helped the rich, check out the attached chart (www.ctj.org/pdf/capgainsdivtaxcuts.pdf)
it's unbelievable.
- 7 months ago
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tbowman131
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occhipij
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It could be worse...I suppose we could live in Russia, circa 1985....
...we could all be poor and miserable together!
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occhipij
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Saladin
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Take a look at that graph.
When was income quality -lowest-? The 1950's.
Guess which decade was one of the greatest for American prosperity?
I'm willing to be there is more than a correlation there.
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Saladin
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GrinningSatyr
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Saladin:
Did you mean income -E-quality? (If you weren't, I have no idea what you're saying because income quality has nothing whatsoever to do with the graph) Because the graph above is the amount earned by the top .01% percent.
The 1950s show that the top .01% there was NOT earning as much, meaning income equality was higher, theoretically.
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GrinningSatyr
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hammywill
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Saladin:
During the 1950's the private workforce was 35% Union. And thus the Middle class was born, Now the private workforce is 7% Union and the Disparity is back. (I am not saying there is a DIRECT causative link, but instead that there IS a causal link and it was definitely a major factor)
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hammywill
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Metanoia
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Remind me... When was NAFTA put in place?
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Metanoia