No Health Care? Tough. This is America. Die.

Well done, Jon. Thanks for posting these.

"Health care is a right, not a privilege..."
This is so true.

I really like the opposing viewpoint comparisons.

It really allows people to see what this heath care reform is about, and who the people opposing the viewpoints of health care reforms.

Healthcare is not like selling lawn chair at Wal-mart.

The people ranting that they don't want to "pay for other people who are fat and lazy" shows just how fantasically ignorant they are of how healthcare is administered and paid for!

When a 19 year old kid gets in a car wreck, has no insurance or really, really crappy insurance and recieved $75,000 worth of ER services AND DEFAULTS ON HIS HOSPITAL BILL ---- how does the hospital recoup that money?

They raise rates.

Under the current system that kid is under no obligation to buy insurance nor pay his hospital bill. I mean, if he is only making $8/hr and can't pay back the $75,000 bill there is nothing anyone can do. The money simply isn't there.

So the kid currently gets "free" healthcare because he doesn't pay his bill.

Under single payer everyone pays for healthcare via taxation....EVERYONE from the guy making $8/hr to the CEO making 1 BILLION dollars pays into the system.

Which is more fair?

The current system wherein the hospitals are going broke because the little old ladies they send their $100,000 hospital bills to default?

Or

The single payer/public option one wherein everyone pays into the system via taxation?

Wow... This sure shows what kind of brain power these people against public health care really have. They obviously have the louder voices. It's just too bad that they are so oblivious to truth and reason.

Some one needs to slap that lady that thinks she deserves her own gold plated hospital. What a bitter ugly woman.

And did that other lady name a single Socialist country?

Wow genius, did you figure this out on your own. Life IS tough, and NEVER fair.
If you can't get health insurance through your job, get a NEW job. Go out, apply for grants, get TAP, and other federal grants...get retrained. Can't figure out what you want to do, or dislike your new field/job - TOUGH. Millions of Americans hate their jobs...what makes you so special?

There are tons of people who are self sufficient, who have immigrated here legally, without a penny in their pockets, and could barely speak English...and with hard work, and determination...they did it, they made something of themselves. What's your excuse?

"People aren't dying, they're getting cared for"

Oh MAN, that guy pissed me off.

NO, THEY ARE NOT!!! 27,000 people are dying EVERY YEAR because of EXACTLY this.

US has number 1 healthcare in the world? When did this happen?
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia

There is no bill yet! There are several competing versions. There is no such thing as the "Obama Health Care Bill." Everyone is arguing the "what ifs."

I think the 2nd woman on the video (you know, the one with the four-hundred-dollar-sunglasses) REALLY says it all:

"I don't think that THOSE PEOPLE should be allowed to go to the same hospitals I do..."

And then when asked about whether or not we should have a government run program for those poor, non-privileged, non-insured dregs of society called the "middle class," she says "I hope not..."

Well, you elitist bitch... thank you using all your energy to try to prevent non-wealthy people in this country from having any healthcare at all. Thank you for hoping that every woman who is not as financially fortunate as you has zero access to mammograms and pre-natal care... Thank you for hoping that non-rich americans don't have the opportunity to detect cancer in time to keep them alive... thank you for hoping that our kids die because we have nowhere to bring them for vaccinations...

I love it when rich cunts say "Life is tough, deal with it..."

@Found_Avenue: I couldn't have said it better....

My God, how I hate the right wing. Sometimes it's a shame that they have all the guns.

The right wing didn't always have them. In the 60s many on the left had them and openly carried in public.

Certain industries should not be for profit.

The Health Insurance and Drug companies should top the list.

Health insurance companies actually have a greater profit margin than Casinos.

Wow that woman was the definition of a self-centered turbo bitch... maybe some megalomania in there too?

Unfortunately, This is the mentality of the American society now. If it isn't going to benefit them, Why do it?

And where the people get there news from is very important.
Most of the people that are against health care reform, watch fox news exclusively.

Personally, I think the best way to get every side of the story, is not only listen to a lot of different sources, But also talk to people. Like family doctors, Ask them, What do they think?

People say that our economy is unsustainable, And our health care is unsustainable, Personally, I think its our society that is unsustainable, What happened to the days when people helped the neighbor and friends, and didn't want money for it? What happened to the days that people actually cared about other people, rather then just them selves.

These people that are against health care reform, are the same people that tell homeless people to get a job. Not realizing that if your homeless, its quite hard to get a job since you don't even have a place to get a shower in the morning. And until these people have been in the shoes of people that a homeless, or in this case, without health insurance, I don't think they'll ever understand.

I have questions for both sides of the aisle:

for someone against reform: Why would you like to allow insurance companies, with over 60% of revenue devoted to administrative costs, to control your medical future? Looking at the trends, health care costs will rise continually if we choose to do nothing.

for someone supporting reform: Why is every person entitled to medical care, disregarding their personal choices, simply for being an American? How much would you allow taxes to rise to pay for the extra coverage of 45 million people in Medicare, (many healthy young adults). Would you support a bill that requires everyone to buy health insurance?

In my opinion, I think we can do much better than what we have now. Obviously there has been a lot of misinformation about 'death panels' and 'socialism', scare tactics. But I also believe fiscal conservatives have some merit in their argument, how can we control deficit spending? What would this do to incentives, i.e. averting diabetes and lung cancer? I think it is disingenuous when someone says a public option wouldn't be bailed out by government, it would. I know the insurance companies are fraught with cronyism, but how can they honestly compete with government pockets? The balance would be extremely difficult and I don't believe it would be carried out honestly.

It is sad when I completely disagree with both sides at the rallies.

A what if to add: Mr. Burd's approach... give your employees a health care check, let them choose what they buy or if they buy. It's an incentive to get a job and not milk the system, but you still have choice and it makes the insurance companies act competitively (forcing cuts in administrative costs).

My thoughts on all this could go on for pages...

Support Kucinich, congressional healthcare for everyone if they want it! Congress is not more equal than you!

every american should have the same access to health care that congress has1 That rich bitch "I don't think they should go to the same hospitals that I do" hey bitch take your 400 dollar sunglasses and shove them where the sun don't shine baby! I really hate these rich right wing scumbags they are the real problem in this country and they don't pay their fare share of taxes anyway!

First , That woman was pretty , perhaps she doesn't think she should need to use her brain or that anyone else matters . I am glad not to have her karma ... Second , I wish these clips could be played in every household in america for the next 6 months 10 times a day , because that is what it is gonna take to get through to these self centered bigots . I wish I had the money to do it , just to see all the HMOs cry like the whiners they are . Let's stop toying around with the public option . The HMOs have proven they will not play fair at all , and will destroy it anyway . Death management is too dangerous to keep around . Single payer all the way !

Did John Wayne have health care? Did Gary Cooper have health care? Did Randolph Scott have health care? I rest my case.