Africans 'under siege' in Moscow

// added August 31, 2009 // 68 comments //
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Nearly 60% of black and African people living in Russia's capital Moscow have been physically assaulted in racially motivated attacks, says a new study.

Africans working or studying in the city live in constant fear of attack, according to the report by the Moscow Protestant Chaplaincy.

A quarter of 200 people surveyed said they had been assaulted more than once. Some 80% had been verbally abused.

But the number of assaults was down from the MPC's last survey in 2002.

The report's clear conclusion was that Africans living in Russia exist in a state of virtual siege, says the BBC's Rupert Wingfield Hayes in Moscow.

Many of the African respondents said they:

- Avoided using the Moscow metro
- Were also careful to avoid crowded public places
- Did not go out on Russian national holidays or on days when there were football matches
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68 comments // Africans 'under siege' in Moscow

  • BFAM_RVS
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      BFAM_RVS  
    • It seems that alot of europeans are prejudice against minorities...thats really unfortunate because minorities have so many greatt things to offer the communities of the world....

    • 5 months ago
  • alexandrek
  • trut
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      trut  
    • The Africans are treated like kings in Russia compared to how white people are treated in Africa. I don't recall hearing african families being machine gunned and having their farms taken away in Russia. Its their country, they didn`t bring the blacks as slaves to Russia. If they don`t want blacks in Russia that`s their choice.

    • 5 months ago
  • pandaman2105
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      pandaman2105  
    • i don't ever want to go to russia because of their history, their government, and the fatalist kind of outlook. this gives me another good reason.

      how the hell is a latino like me gonna look strutting around moscow???
      lol it's the truth. this shows us that no one of color is really that safe.

      it really sucks...

    • 5 months ago
  • alexandrek
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      alexandrek  
    • I have been living two years in Moscow, and I have to admit, Russian are really rascist, my biggest shock was some 40+ mum been shocked and disgusted by a "softener advertising" where with the night lighting they thought the baby was black!
      the immediate reaction was "chernoye, yeurk!" which is really bad way to react to a baby image...

      This is really sad because Russian people do have a good hearth, hard to be friend but when it happen, they will die for you!

      Now, no they are not Nazi, some yes, like every country have that pathetic lot, I more believe, it is the result of years and years of schooling telling them how superior they are, well a post propaganda syndroma!

    • 5 months ago
  • asherp
  • cairo926
  • homedude7
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      homedude7  
    • i just don't understand why they have to be nazi....i get why they want them out but why be a nazi?? think for your self come up with your own party...i wouldn't be so discusted if their grandfathers didn't die trying to stop these dumbass nazis just for their grand children to become them cuz they don't like immigrants...

    • 5 months ago
  • GodsnLiberals
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • homedude7:

      to GodsnLiberals:

      I just have a question over what you mean by, "watch", in:
      "it is this ideology that we need to watch..the pure race mentality.."

      Do you mean that we need to observe and take notes on the pure race mentality as if it has applicability?

      Or, do you mean that we need to be aware and watch out for this in order to *stop* the pure race mentality?

      Your statement could be taken a couple different ways, so instead of there being confusion . . . I'd thought I would just ask.

    • 5 months ago
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • homedude7:

      we cannot stop human mentality you can only control it...

      it is hard to deal with it now because they dont have a solid leadership..meaning no hitler..but this time we have stupid morons who simply just know how to scribble the swastika and hate...it is out of control..no one to go after..no one to punish..that is what makes it dangerous.

      answer???
      proper education..intelligent people can control their animal attributes..

    • 5 months ago
  • Nettle
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      Nettle  
    • homedude7:

      I agree with GnL, education would certainly curb the situation, but how do you go about to doing that? I giggle at the prospect of "above the influence" ads in Russian with a group of kids beating a black kid and an outsider shaking his head and walking away.

    • 5 months ago
  • alexandrek
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      alexandrek  
    • homedude7:

      godsandlib
      Russian doesn't have strong lidership, are you serious?

      Putin is the new staline.

      And for others, you don't need to be a Nazi to be racist, again, their is no more Neo Nazi in Russia then in any other country!

    • 5 months ago
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • homedude7:

      to GodsnLiberals:

      So are you saying that the "pure race" mentality is an inherent mentality to humans that should be accepted, but controlled?

      I would argue that racism is a learned trait (I've personally seen it pass down through families when I was a kid), that it should not be accepted, and it should not be allowed to grow by shaming people that are racist to shut their racist mouths.

      Like it should be noted that "homedude7" said:
      "i wouldn't be so discusted if their grandfathers didn't die trying to stop these dumbass nazis"
      -He sympathizes with their actions, and that his only real gripe is NOT with their violent/racist actions . . . but his gripe is that these people are dishonoring their grandfathers.

      Homedude7's comment is effing racist, and I'd probably punch him in the face if he said that in front of me.

      But let me rephrase my question then:
      Do you think that racist behavior is "acceptable"? . . . regardless if you think it's natural or if it's in a controlled manner.

      I have no desire to put words in your mouth, I'm just looking for clarity on your position.

    • 5 months ago
  • maizein
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      maizein  
    • US post-WWII propaganda (yes, propaganda) made Americans fear Russia and Communism...

      Now, what people should really fear is Nazi Russia... who's gonna stop them? They're are "free" now!

      Good luck!

    • 5 months ago
  • clayjj05
  • Betico
  • clayjj05
  • plusaf
  • delas78
  • samthesixth
  • Cuttle101
  • Ihatethemall
  • fun_size
  • yvesisaki
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      yvesisaki  
    • I knew about this from watching the pod on current about this. I heard it's a daily fear for your life which is really disgusting. With such acts like this and these criminals being able to get away with it, I wonder how bad their previous soviet government was.

      Truly abhorring. You can't even go to Russia without being discriminated against like that if you're a non-white. Which is very disappointing since Russia has a beautiful land with fauna and flora and such, and I admire their culture. It's things like this that you'd think the whole nation is disgustingly racist, which I'm leaning toward that since they don't prosecute this, but at the same time I know that every single person there can't be racist towards ethnic people.

      Do we need to have a civil rights movement like we did in the 1960's there too?! And in other places in Europe like France as well?!

    • 5 months ago
  • Chuck_Taylor
  • GodsnLiberals
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
  • delas78
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      delas78  
    • I'm pretty sure a white guy wouldn't do to well in the hills of Afganistan, Darfur, or places like that.

      THAT'S WHY I WOULDN'T GO THERE.

      It's not racism, it's common sense.

    • 5 months ago
  • clownpuncher
  • clayjj05
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • delas78:

      Afghanistan and Darfur are warzones . . . not a metropolis in a democratic(or sort of) country like Moscow.

      Are you saying that someone of a different color skin shouldn't move into another area that is predominantly a different color?

      Should a black family not move to all white towns in places like northern Michigan, Minnesota, or Idaho (just naming a few places that I've been that seemed extremely hemogenous)?

      If so, that's not common sense . . . that's effing racist.

    • 5 months ago
  • delas78
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      delas78  
    • delas78:

      I'm saying.... someone shouldn't move to a place where they would be in DANGER.

      Simply addressing the fact that racism exists doesn't make one a racist.

      Yes, it's terrible that those racist skinheads exist. And what they're doing is wrong. Period! But right or wrong, it's a reality.

      There is nothing wrong with being the only green person in a predominantly purple town. But if you and your family will be in danger when you get there, why would you go???

    • 5 months ago
  • delas78
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • delas78:

      I asked for clarification since your comment could easily be taken either as racism or as something else, so I phrased the question in a way that shows what "would" be racist . . . in order to draw the line in the sand.

      But I didn't say which side of the line you were on and very much was waiting for clarification before coming to a conclusion (hence, the "If so,").

      If you think I was doing otherwise, you misread me. But, thank you for clarifying.

    • 5 months ago
  • clairvoyant30
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      clairvoyant30  
    • i dont understand why they have to be neo-nazi, it seems stupid to be named after the nazi; the people that killed hundreds of russians, their own people.. and now they want to bring that back?

    • 5 months ago
  • Nettle
  • lj111
  • hayckuh
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • hayckuh:

      its a human trait..we are a TRIBAL animal..it is our instinct to bunch up into groups for survival..

      yes i know its an extinct attribute..

      my suggestion??

      genetic engineering...take our the bad dna traits and defects..but question is..would it make us weaker and be overtaken by other species as the dominant one..

    • 5 months ago
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • hayckuh:

      to GodsnLiberals:

      We already have a conversation going further down, but this just caught my eye.

      What would constitute "bad dna traits and defects"? Surely you don't mean skin color, do you?

      And if you don't mean skin color, then how would this help end racism?

    • 5 months ago
  • jeckersly316
  • bailey78
  • Ryan_Lonberger
  • GodsnLiberals
  • fun_size
  • thecoyote23
  • clayjj05
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      yeah..a liberal is willing to protest as long as it does not involve actually doing something about it...

      I just love reading all thise brave concerened liberals..vowing action to end this...well this time those skinheads will actually going to hit you back so now what?? another durfur??

    • 5 months ago
  • asherp
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      asherp  
    • GodsnLiberals:

      I wish there was I way that we could block certain people so we didn't have to look at such ignorant bullshit.

      I'm an open-minded individual, and have no problem considering alternative points of view, but GodnLiberals doesn't present anything coherent. They just consistently churn out hateful, ignorant bullshit.

      Seriously Godsnliberals-- do you even have a job? Or maybe this IS your job? Writing stupid shit on the internet all day?

    • 5 months ago
  • trut
  • bailey78
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • Even though I don't care to be around most people I don't consider myself a racest. I hate you all the same I don't care what race or religion you are please stay over there. I am doing just fine over here on my own. Besides every time I start hanging around with other people things go wrong in my world.

    • 5 months ago
  • GodsnLiberals
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      GodsnLiberals  
    • bailey78:

      hummm..

      here is a cure to that

      STOP SMOKING DOPE!!

      without dope..your days will be brighter and more positive and you will grow your courage or balls back to actually fight back....

      *and i say that with sincerity

    • 5 months ago
  • samthesixth
  • Maeveeo
  • bailey78
  • clayjj05
  • Ryan_Lonberger
  • hombre76
  • Nettle
    • 0
      Nettle  
    • It's sad that they have to avoid the public on certain days just to make sure that they're going to live the next day.

      Humans suck.

    • 5 months ago
  • newamerica2012
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      newamerica2012  
    • Not being racist, but why are there Africans in Russia? A nation who can't even take care of it's own people, even their children, under a communist or capitalist system, and they're allowing immigration from other continents? I guess if Russia is a safer place and has a better economical and educational situation for them than their original homeland, I understand. But Russia is not the US, there will be no real political or public push for peace between races there.

    • 5 months ago
  • InformedTexan
  • Andres_Andersons
  • Apocalipstick
  • clownpuncher
  • GodsnLiberals
  • trut
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Apocalipstick:

      Reading about this only makes me sympathize with those who want to get rid of 3/4ths of the worlds population; especially if we are talking about getting rid of haters like these Russian fools.

    • 5 months ago
  • hombre76
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      hombre76  
    • Ah I love these Russians over a million of their forefathers died at Stalingrad alone just to stop that Nazi Bullshit and here are their descendants embracing it. The fathers of Russia Are rolling over in their graves. because after 3 thousand years of invasion by the Turks and the Mongols and the Tartars and the Jews you are these people the only blood you don't share is African might as well get it in the mix. Communism extols the virtues of the common man the proletariat as supreme regardless of race and dismissive of religion that dictates hierarchy. The Russian people would do well to remember those values.

    • 5 months ago
  • Reaper26
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      Reaper26  
    • hombre76:

      i mean shit you having that happening there and here. its sad that you have that happening in to countries that were fighting hitler and the nazis in WW2, in kind of shows how pathetic those people are but here their protected under the bill of rights until they attack some one.

    • 5 months ago
  • alexandrek
  • current89
  • InformedTexan
  • jmid
  • asherp
  • InformedTexan

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