The children of bad parents should be taken away as babies and offered for adoption

Your right about less government involment, but where are the churches? the other community private entities, heck even the gang leaders wanting a better life, for the community children, and breaking the cycle. Debrin, did you support everyone? or did the government have to supplement? Are you mentoring community kids to get an education? giving back? Thank-you if you are, but if you are not, put down the caps.

Eugenics anyone?

until the child prtective services are fixed we will continue to place children in another unsafe environmnt. however,apples don't fall far from the tree. counseling and parenting classes should be a basic requirement for all parents.

What a conundrum. The rights of the child to have a good life, and the rights of others not to be burdened or destroyed by mindless toxic reproduction, balanced against the fear of unwarranted intervention.
Although the conclusion reached was a crude product of its time, it's still hard to argue with Oliver Wendell Homes rational observation that,"three generations of imbeciles is enough."
Given the fabric of human news on a daily basis one wonders how exponential that pattern is.

I'm telling you...stand outside a rated R movie and snatch parents to interview them and you will most likely find a terrible parent. I'm talking about bloody, sex movies not something like Rain Man or A time To Kill where there's actually some value to the film.

As for what this crazed lunatic is saying...uh no. No need to give the government more power over how to raise kids than they already have.

I was only kidding about them taking people kid's away. Sometime's they need to, but most of the time, there wrong with what they are doing. They need to overhaul the Children Service's Dept, in every STATE before they think of taking anyone's else kid's period! They make me mad, when they take them and put them somewhere worse than before. I hate that is all the point i am trying to make. NO OTHER POINT. FORGET THE REST!!!

Kids deserve a good chance, so I don't disagree with the basic premise.

However, no way should this be attempted. Who's to judge? Bad parenting isn't a black and white situation. Next thing you know correct posture will be mandated when you take a dump. I don't want or need more govt. regulations in my life - I want LESS. They need to take their hand out of my pocket and let me be.

It all depends on how they define bad parents.

I have seen how meth mamas are . Some addictions are just too horrible to have kids around . There needs to be a dialogue about this . I don't know about adopting them out .

My goodness you can't fix everything.

woah caps lock......

by your own definition, your family should have been broken up since it was you, not your parents, who raised your siblings.... how would you have felt about that??

Seriously, one cannot just jump the gun and categorize a specific group to take children from. There should be clear standards of neglect and abuse. Unfortunately with the system the way it is now, they can take children without evidence AND keep children in abusive situations by ignoring the evidence..... Its all done in civil courts with a preponderance of evidence standard.....

THEIR ARE DEFINETELY SOME PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE CHILDREN. OVER HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEM. THEY SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY TAKE THEM FROM TEENAGE MOTHERS, NOW! THEN START WITH THE DRUG ADDICTS, AND UNEDUCATED MOTHER'S WITH NO FATHERS. OR THE ONE'S THAT ARE SINGLE TAKE A TEST TO SEE IF THEY ARE FIT IN THE HEAD. I AM SINGLE I DON'T NEED A MAN TO RAISE MINE. I AM THE MAN & THE WOMAN. I DID FINE, BUT, I RAISED MY BROTHER & SISTERS TOO. THIS ISN'T MY FIRST GO ROUND!

kstein, UK or US it is happening in a similar fashion, and all based on the incentives the govt receives for their actions.....

Many of these problems you speak of come primarily from single parent homes. It is the basic breakdown of family structure that is the root of this, and the solution is to break more families apart!!??

This is the UK and not here, but hes got some valid points. How many kids are growing up in the streets, having gangs become their mothers and fathers. How many kids are being sold for sex, to feed their parents drug habit, Charities and the government have spent to too much on single parents, and lost kids, through programs and the corrections, that are not breaking the chain. In some cases they are actually encouraging more kids. I think once a child has been taken away, sterilization should be looked at also.

I just don't know.

[[[Martin Narey, chief of Barnardo's, expressed his 'heretic' view
The children of bad parents should be taken away as babies and offered for adoption, the head of a leading charity has said. ]]

Not surprised,,
If one goes back to the days of Eugenics,one will find that Hitler adopted from the USA and put into place Eugenic courts ,,

Eugenics

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[[ They would segregate, sterilize, and perhaps even murder those deemed "un-fit",,,,and pretty much anyone else they wanted to throw in.]]

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Paul Lombardo, University of Virginia

[United States Supreme Court. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., himself a student of eugenics, wrote the formal opinion for the Court in the case of Buck v. Bell (1927). His opinion repeated the "facts" in Carrie’s case, concluding that a "deficient" mother, daughter, and granddaughter justified the need for sterilization. The decision includes the now infamous words: It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…Three generations of imbeciles are enough.]

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www.motherjones.com/media/2003/09/supremacist-science

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America's elite discovered in eugenics a "scientific" basis for their belief in white, Northern European supremacy. So at the turn of the 20th century, scientists with a can-do spirit and just enough knowledge of Mendelian genetics to be dangerous devised grand schemes to improve the American "protoplasm": They would segregate, sterilize, and perhaps even murder those deemed "un-fit" -- as much as 10 percent of the population.

(1927)
Buck v. Bell, became commonplace. Eventually America would sterilize more than 60,000 citizens based on shoddy pretenses, including supposedly voluntary operations on children.

This was not some marginal cause. American eugenicists persuaded the Harriman, Carnegie, and Rockefeller families to fund a vast eugenic campus at Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island.

Researchers were dispatched to asylums, prisons, hospitals, and poor towns to collect family histories of the supposedly unfit --
which included the mentally ill, the disabled, epileptics, alcoholics, criminals, the immoral, and pretty much anyone else they wanted to throw in.

These reports were then collected at the Eugenics Record Office.

Adolf Hitler didn't think much of the United States, but during his rise to power he repeatedly singled out one aspect of American life for praise: our eugenic policies.

When Hitler took power, he immediately unleashed American-influenced eugenic policies on Germany.

He established eugenic courts -- modeled on ours --

Americans gleefully exported their eugenic activism to the world. Sterilization laws sprang up throughout Northern Europe. German eugenicists, particularly captivated by the American notion of Nordic supremacy, published textbooks based on American ideas; Hitler read them. The Rockefeller Foundation funded eugenic experiments in Germany through the early 1930s.
www.motherjones.com/media/2003/09/supremacist-science

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Paul Lombardo, University of Virginia

Eugenics

[United States Supreme Court. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., himself a student of eugenics, wrote the formal opinion for the Court in the case of Buck v. Bell (1927). His opinion repeated the "facts" in Carrie’s case, concluding that a "deficient" mother, daughter, and granddaughter justified the need for sterilization. The decision includes the now infamous words: It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…Three generations of imbeciles are enough.]

Eugenic Sterilization Laws

Paul Lombardo, University of Virginia

While some eugenicists privately supported practices such as euthana

This guy must be blind or plain ignorant to the corrupt practices of the CPS agencies worldwide to assume this is not their original frame of mind....

Oh wait, I get it, its two things here; basic propaganda to make people believe that most social workers have basic morals and would not do this, and when the state can make more money off of a family they fail to take any action...could it be the latter he is speaking about, they tend to do this often.....

I wonder why more abuse happens in foster care than in biological families and it is still sold to us as if its "better" for the kids......

Dont think I know what Im talking about!? google "legally kidnapped" and "SS Title IV-E"

There are situations where the kids should be taken away but I have seen bad parenting that could be helped with some parenting classes and looking out after them. But still there are going to be cases of abuse and murder even in the foster care system.

Aren't there enough kids up for adoption already? And how do you know which parents are "bad" when they've only just become parents?