Hitchens: Christianity is a fraud if it’s not literally true

Hitchens is useless.

I don't know why he's put up as high as Dawkins or Harris to represent our movement, he's a total cunt.

Everybody seems to get on TV... but, getting on TV isn't necessarily something to brag about that TV chose you to fill the time between their commercials.

"If the story of Jesus Christ isn't literally true, then Christianity is a fraud that promotes 'a positively wicked doctrine,' conservative writer Christopher Hitchens told Fox & Friends Monday morning."

I'm no fan of Hitchins, but I must admit he's absolutely right on this point. The documents within the New Testament itself claim that Christianity is a fraud if the resurrection never happened (in particular, St. Paul's letter to the Corinthians). This is nothing new.

I have to agree with this man about that point, but I would go further and say that all the Abrahimic religions are frauds; Judaism, Islam, and Christianity.

I don't know much about the man who wrote the book or what his wider views are. I guess I got some reading to do.

Let's see Hitchens prove his point then instead of simply spouting out. While I personally find it questionable that Christ rose from the dead physically, I can believe the interpretation could also mean spiritually. Remember the time period we are talking about and that words have different interpretations. Spiritual enlightenment and "resurrection" are something I happen to believe are very possible and how I wish to interpret that, so who is Hitchens to deny me that belief? How does it threaten him? But again, if Hitchens is so gung ho about shooting his mouth off, let's see his proof besides attacking an entire group of people.

WOOOO Trinity i live by there!!!!!!

Funny thou..they have a pro-religious bias...or so i had come to believe

Paranoia grips the land. Can our Caped Crusader save us? Will the Boy Wonder take Batman's job while he's on vacation and then not give it back because of Obama? Stay tuned for next week, same Bat channel, for more fraud waste & abuse of dollars that have no value!

I detest Christopher Hitchens. I saw him debate Dinesh D'Souza last month and he was just terrible. He also comes across as a sexist bastard because of his views on women in comedy. He isn't half as eloquent as Dawkins.

On another note. He always looks sweaty and greasy.

What I object to about Hitchens is his cheerleading to kill Muslims and his unflagging support for the invasion Iraq.
Plus, he is generally obnoxious but I admit he can be rather brilliant if controversial.

This is childish stuff. This shows the level of understanding of human history and culture of a child. How do these idiots reach adulthood? Of course there wasn't any resurrection or miricales etc, that doesn't invalidate almost 2000 years of human history and culture just because some moron misunderstands the cultural concept of religion.

Big surprise. He's an atheist. I'm glad it was posted on a Monday.

Watch her body language.

It is people who are certain that cause problems. If we all just contemplated more on how little we know instead of on what we believe, then the world would be a better place.

governments use religion to promote war. they say "we are the chosen", how many groups say that? do we believe the; mormons or the jews, maybe the druids? it would make a big difference if their were one religion. i find it odd that the biggest faiths; hindhu, islam and christian, are almost the same size, about 20%.

If people were to actually listen to the words of Jesus (including Christians), the world would most certainly not be worse for it. Jesus taught love, non-judgment, and service to others, including people who don't give a damn about you, even to the point where you would be willing to suffer for it. The fact that nobody cares what Jesus actually said isn't his fault.

Jesus doesn't have a copyright on love, non-judgment, etc. Many have come to these conclusions about life without his input.

The means by which you get there aren't important wayseeker.. its the fact that you got there. I got there through God. I dont understand why people who don't even take the time to study Christianity are so critical of it. The bible was written by men, not God, not Jesus. Study the history of the religion before you bash it and you will see that it is not God who has corrupted this world but the men who have done malicious things in his name. Jesus preached love. God is love. Even those dont believe in God believe in love so theres common ground we all share right there.

Every person who believes in Jesus alone is a brain washed simplistic simpleton.

The Bible is not the inspired word of God, it is simply a book that was written by men who were trying to hold a diverse flock together in the face of Roman persecution. It's contradictions and prejudices reflect those held by it's writers. The bible and christianity would have been relegated to the backwaters of history had it not been for the pagan Emperor Constantine who made Christianity the state religion and backed it's spread by codifying its concepts and supporting them with military strength. It's sadly ironic when one considers that all the murder, rape, pillage and mayhem done in the name of god is rooted in a ploy by a very clever Roman emperor to maintain control of his empire. When he died, the lie lived on because those in power were determined to stay in power. There is really nothing more to Christianity than that. The same is true for Judaism and Islam; their concepts were deified so that a small minority of people could maintain control over a large minority. I'm hoping that someday, man matures enough to cast off religious nonsense in the same way we cast off our belief the world was flat.

Your view is very common and accepted nowadays Mark701, because that line of thinking is very liberating. But if you knew that God is able and has in fact done it to influence the thinking of political people towards the end He wants to happen then much of your argument hinging on what Constantine and others did falls a little earth flat also.

To be liberated of all responsibility to obey a deity may be very appealing however, when you liberate yourself from this oppressor's grasp you have also cut yourself out of the future He plans to bring. And that future will be world's above what any man can give you under any political regime of whatever philosophy you choose, it still hinges on the words of a MAN to fulfill.

The God of the Bible has a different reality than ours. We see everything through a stopwatch. He sees the Past, the Present and the Future all at the same time as if there is no such thing as Time. He can reach back and make real-time adjustments if we make a choice in our Present that threatens to change the outcome He wants to happen.

He can and does also drop a religion that fails his purposes like a hot potato and choose another religious group to carry His purpose forward. When it comes to the outworking of his purpose, one being to restore mankind to the timeline that He began in Eden, we are all expendable. And I do mean "we", because in our religious group (JW) we have sometimes had impostors infiltrate our ranks just like everybody else.

We have accounts of what happens to people like that. When we go to people's doors many times the person at home will have a gun and yet they decide not to harm us but one account I recall in particular a brother was in the door to door work and he was shot through the door in his chest and died on the spot.

Later on when the brothers were cleaning out his belongings for him they came across a large accumulation of literature that clearly showed he was against Jehovah God and against JW's also. This is only one instance I know about. God takes care of his congregation. On the outside of his congregation -where you are choosing to be as is of course your Right- you do not receive that level of care. It's every man for himself and that usually means not so good.

But his other son besides Jesus, called Satan, he does do stuff to take care of you, so that many people outside the congregation will be seen prospering financially. Choosing that has its perks, but in the long run those who wish to catch the long ball -everlasting life in perfection => Matthew 5:5 that Jesus repeated as still being our objective and hope- suffering financially is a very temporary issue.

My hope is to catch that long ball. I believe this existence we have now is an aberration of what was supposed to be and that a course of correction has been set in place, so I try to live in accordance with Bible standards because I want the reality that is soon to be restored. The Bible is very clear about that. What was begun in Eden has been repeatedly re-stated throughout the remainder of the Bible and culminates in Revelation 21: 3 & 4.

I wish you well. You are welcome to write all the derogatory stuff you want about the other religions because we do that also, just that we add Bible scripture as our basis. Nor do we belong to any ecumenical body or the World Council of Churches kumbaya movement. We're standalone. We don't believe in a God who would create a place of eternal torture for people who refuse His Blessings and sin. That's a scriptural outrage and false teaching. We don't attempt to mash the Father with the son into a "Trinity" conglomerated being. In fact my friend the world's religions many times in our history have pleaded with the political people to ban us and stop our preaching such is their hatred for Bible Truth.

It's being done in Russia right now, today. Anyone serious about living in that restored reality finds themselves at odds with those who think this short sheet is real.

Ran out of space. But God did not influence anyone to shoot and kill that false brother. No, but what He can do is withdraw the protection of his holy spirit and withdraw any angels assigned to accompany us in our work. Of course no one can see all these things with their eyes but the few times we have seen stuff like this happen presents a very convincing case. Otherwise we might be shaking in our boots every time we walk up to a stranger's door.

A lot of you are real upset because you see your US government becoming more and more looking like other world governments. This was foretold in prophecy in a roundabout way. Found in the writings of Daniel there's a prophecy of a statue made of many types of material. Chapter 2, where it says in the last verse the statue is to be destroyed once for all time verse 44 "and the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin".

Well, all the world governments today make up that statue and they sense this kingdom "threat" is coming closer, so they are pulling together to the point where they all look the same, and very united in purpose. Anyone who wants to explore this further => http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060715/article_02.htm <> the Bible is coming true. The days pass and just as the Bible tells us elsewhere "Jehovah is speeding it up in its own time". Why would God alter the rate of time? It's because we are getting closer to the setting up of his kingdom government to rule humanity and finally bring world peace. As in the previous post, He controls a lot more than we are able to see with our eyes. He has already set the "day and the hour"? Perhaps so. Knowing the exact time he certainly can and probably has for a long time, but the closer we come the more need for tweaking the clock... because God honors his own timetables.

Just like when he finished each creative day then pronounced them good, he will one day soon pronounce the final outworking of his purposes to be good also. We have yet to finish the last creative day. But following the 1,000 year reign of his kingdom, and all people will be restored to the perfection Adam & Eve had, then will come the end of this last creative day we are in now. After Satan is unloosed from his restraining bonds we will be tested again also as Adam and Eve, and probably by something exceedingly SIMPLE as another fruit restriction, not something complicated we watch for.

And after all that is over those who survive will be pronounced good, at the end of this creative day.

@GAVINTHEMOTHER one good example is found in the book of Mark. A woman comes to Jesus to ask for help for her daughter. The woman was a Syrophoenician. He argues with the woman basically calling her a Dog saying "the food is reserved for the children (of god)".

Her response to him was "even the dogs get to eat the crumbs from the table of their masters."

This is contradictory to many of Jesus other statements saying that all human beings are the children of God; except, according to Mark, the SyroPhoenicians.

As the Catholic Church was purging it's "flock" of pagan worshippers, and it seen revenue falling due to that purge and people getting really tired of being told what, when how, why and where, the church decided they needed a Messiah.
So they took a real person, Jesus, made him into a Messiah, and told people he was the son of god.
History is not quite that simple, there were many factors surrounding the purge, etc. and it didn't happen overnight.
Jesus was a real person, but he was just a man who had something very important to tell people.
"Be nice to others and yourself."
Would that we all could follow that simple teaching.