Pro-Animal Cruelty Activists and their Million Dollar Campaigns of Misinformation

I couldn't read this because I would cry.

I read this and all i know is, If i ever catch one of these so called "scientists" I'll probably get arrested for torturing them! I can't stand these fucks still testing on nonhuman beings, thinking it's ok and for their science research.

If i catch you, you will regret ever living!! That's the best way I can put it, no sympathy for folks that do that.

I am with ya on this too KSirys. I do not understand what type of sick piece of shit can wake up every morning and go to work in a place like one of these. How could they ever enjoy a day at work knowing the work they do inflicts extreme pain on helpless creatures. How do they live with themselves? If ever caught. They should have every bone in their worthless body broken with a crowbar. Then we could start to torture them.

i just dont understand why scientist dont just test test these thing out on people who actualy have the illness. instead of haveing to give a monkey aids and then test on it,they could have a mokey with aids in the first place, the monkey/chimps die anyway.
scientist have been giving monkeys AIDS for more then 20 years.

i always thought it was black magic. ever since i was a kid it seemed an evil practice to gain a power.

i knew a gal that worked in one of those labs. she was in my therapy group and she was always defending herself and her actions against life. i advised her that she would be a happier, better person if she wasn't hurting bunnies and she eventually agreed. the transformation she underwent was amazing and fast. she suddenly shed tension and guilt becoming confident and her looks changed for the better. much better.

Yeah this isn't right, but stuff like this goes on twenty-four-seven all around the world. Gotta wonder if we're ever gonna advance in other places besides technology.

Thanks for the awesome comments, people! Usually when stuff like this is posted, a bunch of folks try to rationalize this bullshit. Good for all of you for using your brains- all of them. ;-)

Totally agreed, animal testing is really done for profit and to guard companies from legal issues. And I have some personal experience with this, working for a company that did animal testing. I did not know until a few months into working there and after I learned of the reality of the company I could no longer function and eventually felt I had to leave. I was actually stoked when they laid me off.

Totally agree that animal testing is sick. What should these companies do instead? Should it be a job for willing participants or what? That monkey picture makes me want to cry.

Grow up.

Saying that these scientists are pro-animal cruelty is hyperbolic, childish and misses the point.

I got some bad news for you sunshine almost every life saving medication known to man was tested on animal before it was tested on humans. As well it should be. It is the responsible thing to do.

I love animals very much, I have a dog and 2 guinea pigs. I treat them very well and give them lots of love and affection.

However when the mice begin their mass exodus from the woods behind my home in the fall/winter and start to invade my home I set about a mice genocide mwahhahahhaaaa!!!! Does that make me pro-animal cruelty?

It is not propaganda. Animal testing saves human lives. Period.

Damn Slarabee. when the crops come down on my farm and the little bastards invade my home I use a live trap then take them 10 miles out and dump them in the woods.
It doesnt make you pro animal cruelty to use a snap trap but it does make you pro cruelty to use them and laugh about it as you proclaim you are commiting mouse genocide.
This must be one of those crazy right wing conservitive views you accuse me of having all the time.

Animal testing on live animals that causes long term effects...I agree is horrible.
Animal testing on live animals with short term effects....it's a neccesity.
Animal testing on naturally deceased animals.....This is a growing thing and I support 100%

These scientists aren't using propaganda, they know they are testing on live animals but they have to before testing on humans. As long as the animal being tested on can't self-reflect (their brain is too small or unadvanced), I personally have no problem with it. Mice, squirrels, primitive apes.....They can't self-reflect, and we have to test on them for our own benefit so I support it all the way.

Im a bit mixed on this issue. Some animal testing is just outright cruel, but I do believe that it does have a purpose. How many people are really willing to undergo experimental treatments? When you have an illness, of course you'll try anything...but let's say a lab comes up with a new (insert any chemical here) and isn't quite sure of its capabilities or effects...would you sign up for the trials?

if i had life threatining illness i would sighn myself up for exsperimentel cures. and i would probably get a room and board and not a cold cage.

If anything this blog is a serious piece of misinformation.

From the article

“Here's a little bit on how treatments for leprosy were developed. The first leprosy wonder-drug that worked in other animals quickly became useless in humans due to a resistance to its effectiveness. Another, clofazimine, found successes in vitro, so nonhuman animal suffering was not needed (even though they used them anyways).”

That first wonder drug the article references is called Dapsone and it was developed only after Gerhard Domagk, the head of the department of experimental pathology for IG Farben, proved that you can treat a micro bacterial infection with the use of certain dyes. This was an enormous scientific breakthrough. Before it the scientific community were unsure whether a particular dye would be toxic enough to destroy bacteria within the human body without inhibiting normal bodily functions.

The development of Dapsone and Prontosil proved the hypothesis and what’s most damning to this blog is that were only effective in in vivo testing. In other words without the use of animal testing no one would have made the discovery. Even though Dapsone by itself could not cure leprosy the science behind the drug and it’s subsequent improvements (like clofazimine) was unquestionably dependent on animal testing.

:(... In other words, we should use the scientists that do this as our test subjects! What makes animal cruelty right? Nonhuman animals have done nothing to deserve this. We need to preserve every beautiful species of the animal kingdom. If the cures they are trying to discover are meant for humans and the animals react to the testing differently then we should use humans as the test subjects.

I think there are a couple of issues not brought up yet....

1) Animal testing consists of a variety of science disciplines and a variety of conditions. Behavior studies are not the same as say, surgical technique testing. Its nice to have a picture that looks so brutal without any background information of what is occurring. The image of an autopsy looks like a brutal homicide if you just look at an image of it, that doesn't mean that autopsies are.

2) The mindset that believes there is a massive conspiracy just to kill animals for testing is ludicrous. Of course there are serious issues with animal testing such as cost, availability, and effectiveness, and not the least, ethical considerations. As soon as there is a better alternative, it will rapidly be accepted. That said, the notion that computer simulations could possibly take the place of drug trials is insane. We cannot even predict the path of a hurricane from beyond 4 days, which despite its size, is a relatively simple simulation(air temp, sea temp, barometric pressure), yet people seem to thing we can simulate chemical interactions on the microscopic level...yeah okay...with what? We don't have the processing power throughout the entire globe that could adequately simulate the simplest digestive system. I know that it seems simple that we just eat food and then crap it out...but it isn't. For as little as we understand the complex ecology of the Rain Forrest, we are just as limited when it comes to the lower intestine. Nor would replacing all testing with cadavers work...yeah try doing behavior studies with dead pigs...or are we allowed to use pigs after they died? This is a simple, universal truth...Universities, Research Centers, Hospitals, and Medical facilities would gladly not deal with animal testing if there was a viable alternative at this time. From the cost of housing, disposal, oversight requirements, and the nut bags encouraging violence against researchers (KSirys above), obviously if they could, they would utilize alternative options. But the sad truth is that right now, animal testing is a "necessary evil".

3) Animals have been helped by animal testing. There is something no one seems willing to bring up. And I am not talking about just pets but also through animal husbandry and ecological conservation. A lot of how we understand the movement of toxic substances through an environment is through extensive field testing. So I guess we could no longer put on tracking collars or take blood samples on animals since that is animal testing as well. When you start equating all animal testing as "evil" without even a basic definition of what animal testing is, you will end up outlawing Ecology, Marine Biology, Biology, Taxonomy, Genetics, Bio-chemistry, Medicine, Veterinary Medicine, and so on and so on.

To be clear, I am not advocating across the board animal testing without oversight nor am I ignoring the vast amounts of abuses that have occurred in the past. But considering that this posting doesn't even mention any of the safe guards that are required to be in place at any institution that uses animal testing, nor is a basic definition of what animal testing is considered ban worthy, how can anyone say this is a logical argument to justify the outlawing of this scientific tool?

I know that this can be a sensitive issue with people and I apologize if I offended anyone's sensitivities.