Abortion Restrictions In House Bill Show Power Of Organized Religion In Politics

@ rockhallmemeber

NO ! The bottom line is thta you've never heard of the separation of church & state !
& through your ignorance of the facts you want to impose to women your will over theirs... Abortion is a medical act, deal with it just as your underlying religious misogyny... you can console your measly pettiness in the knowledge that you are not alone in being caught in the medieval age ;)

"The three monotheisms, animated by the same genealogical death instinct, share a series of identical contempt: hatred of reason and intelligence; hatred of freedom; hatred of all books in the name the one & only; hatred of life; hatred of sexuality, of women and pleasure; hatred of feminity; hatred of the body, of desires & impulses. Instead of all that, Judaism, Christianity and Islam defend: faith and belief, obedience and submission, a taste for death and a passion for the beyond, asexual angel and chastity, virginity and monogamic fidelity, the wife and the mother, the soul and spirit. In other words, life crucified and celebrated nothingness" – Michel Onfray

"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." -Frank Zappa

EdJoy, the bottom line is that the president and democrats in congress want "us" to fund abortions. I do not want to. The Catholic church does not want to. I would rather them pay for dental work in the final insurance plan.

Also remember that any women can pay get an abortion. Sounds fair to me!! There is no restrictions on that. Why, oh why, does the governement want me to pay for that.

The fact that churches don't pay taxes contributes to building them so you are wrong. Hypocritical extortion and unethical lobbying to make church policy part of government policy is also wrong.

Wow, some of you are unreal. So far away from God. I pray for you. May God grant you the wisdom to ease your bitter, spiteful heart. We just don't want to pay for abortions. We don't build churches with your tax dollars. It is not a "right" to have an abortion. It is a choice - hence "pro-choice", yes??

It shows the wussiness of the Dems.

I love how the ads by google on this page are www.safestabortion.com, a NJ abortion clinic and my number one favorite: LAS VEGAS ABORTION. Ditch that fetus and hit the tables, honey. What happens in Vegas can actually be medically removed and stay in Vegas.

Wow the chick in this link looks relieved.

I was hoping the Vegas abortion site would be super tacky, maybe with a roulette wheel, but it is no fun.

Isn't the pope starting to look more and more like Max Scheck from Nosferatu?

This is infuriating. If they are going to lobby then take their fucking tax exempt status.... oh thanks Ryan. I was yelling that at my radio at work today.

any organized religion that involves itself in politics should have its tax-exempt status revoked. this would put millions of dollars into the Treasury.

Is it me or does the Pope look as if he is saying:

" Kiss the rings bitch !"

Just saying - he does have that demented look on his face ....

I dont understand this at all. People are going to have abortions whether they are legal or not, financed by the government or not. So why not finance it so that these people can get sanitary medical conditions instead of going to a shady back alley or using coat hangers?

If you dont want to have an abortion dont have one. But dont try to restrict people with your bias.

'judge not less ye be judged" im an atheist and even I agree with that it never ceases to amaze me to what end the religious will go to involve themselves and judge the lives of others the law of the land is made in the best interest of the nation not just the Christians. Freedom of choice is the freedom to make mistakes and pay the consequences breaking the laws of man require punishment by mans law, breaking existential faith based laws are best left to be dealt with by the provider of such rules i.e god "give unto César what is César's give unto the lord what is the lords" if you believe abortion is wrong don't practice it. Im pro choice not pro abortion because abortion is an issue where the options are bad no matter which are chosen are but it is necessary sometimes life is not perfect and neither is humanity no matter what your religion says "your freedom to believe ends at my freedom to not believe" get over your selves if you believe hell awaits them then pray for their souls.

Religion is evil,and needs to be stoped.

I am pro-choice, but I think that it makes sense to block ANY elective procedures from being covered through government health care- not just abortions. I understand the conflict between church and state here, but they do have a valid point.

It's important to widen post-natal care and adoption programs in order to aid to help individuals with unwanted pregnancies, as well as mandatory maternity leaves in order to equalize both options and optimize both of their outcomes for people to make a level-headed decision regarding their moral obligations and beliefs on this issue in my own humble opinion.

I do think it is a personal choice as to whether or not to get one. With that said, this kind of legislation would be more wisely met, if at all, in the confines of the state or even city as far as designating the legality of and in what term abortions should be performed. This should not be a federal issue as it is. It would clearly be Utopian to assume that this issue will not appear at any level as in a democracy in the near future. Even as favorable as that may be, a majority will always carry out the principles of the law by voting and I'm fine with that for the most part.

Political shifts are always a legislative response to a turning majority, so in a sense this is no one's fault but the fault of the movement itself and their ability to meet their challenges more persuasively than their opponents. This is true of all civil rights movements within democracy, just open up a history book.

all the pro lifers are doing is making it unsafe for abortions. Woman will have to go to back door doctors again. But then I believe with them life starts at conception and ends at birth.

Any woman who votes for conservative republicans or conservative democrats needs to have their heads examined. These are old white men decieding on womens reproductive rights. While I do not endorse abortion as a birth control method it is criminal to deny abortions to any woman. We are a country that clearly seperates church and state yet we allow religious dogma a place in our national discourse regarding healthcare for women. My wife and I both have some regrets from when we were young and she had two abortions over a seven year stretch but we understand things are not always what they seem and sometimes its in the best interest of society to allow abortions. Unwanted, unloved children end up in jail by the time they are teenagers when no person gives a shit about them. Women on welfare who repeatedly become pregnant for no other reason than to extract more welfare monies should be sterilized. Harsh but a real solution to that part of the problem. Second and third generation welfare queens should suffer the same.Welfare was never meant to be a generation to generation free ride on the taxpayer and it should not be. The vast majority of people who choose to have children do so when they can afford them, not so society can pay for them. There is no exuse for the self perpetuation of poverty stricken children to have to suffer the lives they are forced to because of societies social situation that almost
condones that behavior. There are some fundemental problems we as a nation and society must come to grips with. Unwed, unemployed mothers are one of them.

The baby killing radicals have no need to worry it will be put back in. It was a temporary means to a greater end. KILL BABIES ON THE GOVERNMENT DIME.

"The three monotheisms, animated by the same genealogical death instinct, share a series of identical contempt: hatred of reason and intelligence; hatred of freedom; hatred of all books in the name the one & only; hatred of life; hatred of sexuality, of women and pleasure; hatred of feminity; hatred of the body, of desires & impulses. Instead of all that, Judaism, Christianity and Islam defend: faith and belief, obedience and submission, a taste for death and a passion for the beyond, asexual angel and chastity, virginity and monogamic fidelity, the wife and the mother, the soul and spirit. In other words, life crucified and celebrated nothingness" – Michel Onfray

"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." -Frank Zappa

You can't have it all ways.
I don't NOW, NARAL or Moveon involved in my family's health care choice.
If the government insists on pushing in this way, the Catholics have a right to invoke their rights.
We have to accept that the 0bama voters are just going to have to get off their asses, shut off Oprah and go see a doctor and pay their own way.

"And Jesus said to them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they were amazed at Him."
-Mark 12:17

I think even Jesus was saying the government and the church should be separate.

When church and state are intertwined, the government will always end up corrupting the church and the church will always corrupt the government. They can't help but corrupt each other. History has proven it. Just look back at the different theocracies in Europe and the middle east.

Where is King Henry viii when we need him, he would know exactly what to do with the religious morons that get in the way .... a little beheading would go a long way at this point.

Change this headline to "Abortion Restrictions In House Bill Show Power Of Organized Crime In Politics" for greater accuracy.

Holy shit...if the Catholic Church, with all its horrible warts and mutations, is considered a powerful political force in this day and age we are well and truly screwed.