The problem with most atheists' arguments

I don't like this article. It's really demeaning to those who follow religion. And I really despise that it has these underlying tones to convert theists. Not cool.

The problem with most atheists is that while accusing all CHRISTians of being intolerant, they themselves have become intolerant.

Got Atheism?

Got Zombie thinking? Yes you do.

You know how it's like arguing with an atheist?

It's like arguing with what happens at the end of a movie. Person F is the person who has never seen the movie let alone heard it, but they are sure that the movie will end this way. Person A has seen the movie and knows how it ends and explains to person F that they are wrong and why without totally giving away everything. Person F is instant that they are right based on their logic and understanding (which is very limited because their mind is too frail to actually accumulate much more than what they wish to believe).

No matter what person A says person F will think they are right because they believe they are using logic even though they have zero backing for such thinking.

Person A = (in this case) a Christian

Person B = Atheist.

In like manner as the bad baseball analogy. I'm doing good so far.

WHAT? An atheist agrees with atheist arguments? NO WAY....he also thinks they're logical? Wow....

So far the only logical thing mentioned is the leg part. I have a feeling that that's the only thing that could be considered a good point.

Funny thing that foundation is mentioned when atheist do not have such to build their beliefs on.

Jesus "may" have never existed? Not very confident nor was the bible comment.

Another funny thing is that this argument about defense like actions could be said about anyone...even the diluted atheist (in this case).

Devote is what explains many atheist. They believe what they are told.

Constantly.

I'm confuddled....why is an atheist trying to convert people? I knew the atheist of Current were lying about conversions. They do have a track record of lying.

If an atheist can't prove where morals came from via cold hard facts...then no morals are not just there.

Why do atheist love to masturbate in public? It's gross.

Well said. Well done. Good read.

religion=war=retarded... my sources were the hundred years war and any holy book... lol

it's interesting how some atheists seem to be just as closed-minded as the "religious" people they like to call closed-minded.

The reason that most arguments from atheists against theists are ineffective, IS because theism is devoid of reason. Morality is never rational.

especially atheist morality.

Sorry...oxymoron.

Funny thing about JJammer is that he only argues against atheists and never argues for his religious beliefs...I'm not even sure he has any, he just really likes to argue.

I'm an athiest and I don't get into religious arguments with people. I don't try to prove a point to people by making them think I'm more logical. I just don't believe in anything, it makes no sense to me. I like to live by, "whatever helps people sleep at night" and that's what I'm sticking by. Besides, can't we all just get along? You know, coexist and whatnot?

Its a stereotype of both sides, such assumptions are to be taken lightly..

If you know is not true, then please ignore the assumption..Please.

Level 1 - Devout: The devout individual has no doubt that their religion is correct. "I believe everything I've ever been told, and I'm not going to question it."

hahahaha.... I was cracking up at the feeble attempt to figure out why atheist cannot win a "religion" argument. It was pretty good up until the "levels" part. hahaha! That's just one of the reasons!

i think the article was good . religion has been the cause of a lot of pain and suffering over time and will continue to be.i am a nonbeliever have a lot of friends
that are very religious.all people need to respect others and their beliefs.there is
no room for extremists!

For not affecting a thieist we sure got a lot of god fearing people to respond on the last story on Atheist.

What an arrogant overbearing article. What evidence? Atheists have no evidence that there is no God anymore than there is empirical evidence to the contrary. My goodness, some atheists are just as insufferable with their rhetoric as evangelicals are with theirs. You all use 'God' in some way to push your ideas down others' throats. Quite a turn off.

OMT! I can't believe Odin isn't getting any love here.

Q: so, how do you explain dinosaur bones?

A: GOD PUT THEM THERE TO TEST OUR FAITH.

ahahahahhah

These so called christians on this site are using such fowl language. What would Jesus say. Diff not Atheist like to Masterbate that not very christian.

This article puts me in a weird position, I agree with all the major points but a reasonable person could well be rankled and upset by its decidedly seditious tone.
It would be more accessible, agreeable and effective as an essay if the author established more respect for religious people, if not their beliefs.

Don't take the bait from the regular obstructionist to engage in a group internet mental masturbation exercise. That is the moral lesson of this thread.

This whole topic is stupid, to me. You can't prove things (religious things) to a theist, they operate on faith. Seems basic enough.

"These people cannot simply be dismissed as "too stupid". This is evidenced by the fact that there are very successful, highly intelligent people who still hold religious beliefs. Nor can they simply be dismissed as "crazy". Any psychosis that severe would spill over into other aspects of their lives, rendering them incapable of functioning normally."

There. . . That's a good paragraph right there. Stop treating theists like morons, atheists!! (I'm agnostic myself).

Is it or is it not acceptable to attempt to convert someone? To do so from any perspective would require the act of sharing one's beliefs and often debating them. If you do not approach the subject with a delicate sensibility, you will not have the desired effects. Atheists have a difficult time sharing with religious people because their logical approach appears too harsh and cold compared to the salvation promise of heaven. It is usually considered offensive to the religious for them to be contradicted by logic, so the "faith" element becomes the nail in the coffin for the debate. That is when the oil meets the water.

The danger in religion is that it allows for so many opportunities of abuse. When faith comes into play, people can become manipulated. Priests, con artists, politicians, terrorists, etc. If they want, they can use promises of faith for their own purposes. And the reason they are so successful is because there is absolutely no reality check when it comes to issues of faith.

I find it interesting that some religious people think that all atheists are without a sense of values or morality. From what I have seen, the opposite is true. Most atheists are humanists, eager to do what's best for the common good. For the most part, they are giving, compassionate, and honest. You are mistaken if you believe that you have to be taught morality by an organized religion.

We absolutely have to embrace logic to deal with the conflicts in our world. The manipulation of organized religion and its rejection of logic is a threat to our future as is evident by our present and our past. With all of that said, I support anyone and everyone's right to their personal spiritual beliefs.

@all of you, if you feel its a personal attack, flag it. Plain and simple. People are getting petty and then some let the petty ones get away with it time and time again.

Flag, flag, flag! If enough people flag offensive comments and stereotypes, then those people will eventually get the message.

I already did that Jubal and I am going to do it again if I need to.