Senate Bill would allow "mentally Incapacitated" vets to buy guns

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Major Nidal Hasan, accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood Army base, has been described by former colleagues as "psychotic." As more details emerge about Hasan's troubled state, gun safety advocates are launching fresh attacks on a Senate bill they say would make it easier for mentally unstable veterans to buy firearms.

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) says his "Veterans 2nd Amendment Protection Act" will protect veterans' gun rights. But the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence calls it a "dangerous" proposal that could allow "over 100,000 mentally incapacitated or incompetent persons" to buy guns—people who would previously have been barred from doing so by the Veterans Administration (VA).

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  • added November 16, 2009

99 comments // Senate Bill would allow "mentally Incapacitated" vets to buy guns

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    Every U.S. citizen over 18 years of age should be required to wear a holstered, loaded .45 revolver and carry at least $500 cash at all times. Credit cards should be abolished and checking accounts prohibited. Once the playing field has been leveled in this way, those with the most accurate aim will prevail and America will once again become the paradise it was once the Indians had been slaughtered and the oil men had not yet gained control.

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    Progresshiv
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    They need to fix their criteria for "mentally incapacitated veterans" before they deal with htis situation.... Many come home with PTSD, but there is a good amount that do eventually learn how to cope and/or deal with it positively. This label is automatically slapped on any veteran who turns to mental professionals after they come home. Doing this could also prevent the truly disturbed ones from getting the help they need for fear of losing their rights to their guns..... This needs to be done on a case by case basis, not a general blanket prohibition..... I am also not suprised that the Fort Hood incident is being used to push for this either.... Im questioning the logic in this as they are pretty much unrelated.....

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    regjoeschmo
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    Most of my American friends are the most socially aware, intelligent, generous people I know ... but they can't imagine a world without gun ownership, despite the death toll from accidents, murders and highly publicized killings. It's like part of DNA and logic is thrown out the window. I just don't understand ... I'd love to, but I just don't get it.

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    loupetho
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    who the fuck writes these laws lol...

    CalgarC
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    The gun lobby doesn't care who owns a weapon. They have a financial interest in sell sell sell. The more crazy people own guns and start killing, the more sane people need to own them to protect themselves. Yay for the bottom line! Boo for logic, law and justice.

    Let us all praise the almighty gun, the idol that Christians have placed before god and christian-like behavior.

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    CreditFigaro
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    So we're going to allow people with intensive real-life military experience who can extremely easily snap, and do, own guns? I understand they served our country in a great manner, but this is like giving guns to murderers who just got out of jail. It's not a good idea to give a mentally unstable person a gun.

    maxjunk
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    "Mentally incapacitated" is so vague....That could be anything from schizophrenia to bi-polars to PTSD to senility....
    If our politicians were smart enough they would understand this and actually write out in the bill "Veterans of past, current, and future wars shall be permitted gun licenses depending on their mental health with no prejudice on age, sex, racial backgrounds, or handicaps except mental handicaps of everything NOT including hereditary disorders or wartime disorders deemed "safe" by the state court."
    And personally I believe these handicaps should be no more severe than PTSD, if they are senile or schizophrenic or severely bi-polar and got back from a war the chances of them being uncivil with their guns are much higher in my opinion. But maybe they could even put on the bill that these veterans just have a simple psychiatric evaluation, free of charge, before obtaining their weapon.

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    FishaHouse777
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    Has this passed? There are plenty of ways to defend yourself without a handgun. It's not my first choice if I had everything laid out before me and could choose from anything. And I'm a vet. But I have always loved target practice! I am sure many feel that way.

    I am sure that there are still pretty good guidelines for getting a handgun, it's never been a given in our society.

    Like I said, I would use other means of self defense easily. And I'm a disabled vet.

    arcticspirit
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    ARM EVERYONE. Cops and criminals alike {arent they really one in the same} will think twice before violating someones civil rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    Ihatethemall
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    Oh thats what we need crazy trained killers with guns.WOW! These folks will end up going should I say postal at some big group of people.or maybe during a visit from the president.

    LadybugLady
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    The U.S. is the only country in the world that gives it's people the legal right to own guns, and it's the only country in the world that does not give its people the right to health care. These two inequities bring America down into the gutter. We have the highest crime rate, the most people in prisons, and one of the worst health care systems in the world, worse than any other industrialized nation.

    JonRaymond
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    He had every right to have that gun. Nothing will change that. We had every right to kill him. Nothing will change that.

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    The_Immelman
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    Nice, the un-American Brady Campaign making up things to justify their anti-Constitutional stance. Facts and truths is never one the anti-gunners side though.

    libertyforall
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    "Every U.S. citizen over 18 years of age should be required to wear a holstered, loaded .45 revolver and carry at least $500 cash at all times."

    lol if this happend everyone would get robbed. Seriously the worst idea ive ever heard

    Taya_Alami
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    GUNS ARE HERE! WHY FEAR! GET OVER IT! ( I do so love that) sorry.

    remanns
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    Thats what this world needs trained killers whit permission to carry a gun!

    karenazimi
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    When someone joins the military, they join understanding not only the physical risk but the mental risk of returning home with psychological issues. To demand a firearm when it's unsafe is exactly what it sounds like. unsafe

    maurajriordan
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    What the heck wr already have mentally incapacitated police carrying guns!

    freal
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    Nice. is that the IMI or the Magnum Research Deagle?

    Nephwrack
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    Those are the only people that ever buy them anyway. . Nothing's changed.

    ozoneocean
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    "Don't worry gang, the mentally incapacitated can already buy guns at Gun Shows."

    =D

    *facepalm*

    EmperorThan
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    Hasan was not a veteran. He was active duty. This is an attempt to blame the gun for the actions of a terrorist. He did his act in a federally mandated gun free zone. HOw many lives could have been saved by individually armed soldiers without waiting for the police to respond? Remember that 9/11 happened with razor knives in a federally mandated gun free zone. It could have been prevented by four people with handguns.
    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

    Paratus
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    uhhhhhhhhhhh that's STUPID.

    jcamille
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    you know, i'm all for supporting the 2nd amendment, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't say "give guns to crazy people."

    i'm also pretty sure it doesn't say anything about automatic weapons, but i'm guessing the founding fathers would have supported restrictions on those, too.

    zphoenixdownz
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    It's not as dumb as it sounds, they just need to be more specific then "Mentally Incapacitated" (Which it probably already is if we were to read the actual bill in full)
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    And there needs to be a limit to how much ammo.
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    And what kinds of guns.
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    And only after completing 36 different mental health exams. -.-

    Ogaal
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