News and Politics | September 25, 2007 | 7 comments

Dirty Tricks? Two wrongs make it right?

source: http://www.nodirtytricks.com/

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Democrats are fighting against a Republican charge to base California electoral votes on percentages instead of winner take all. The campaign is called the Courage Campaign and the the fight call is "No More Dirty Tricks!" For the record, I'm against this change... because it would give Republicans more votes. But I'm not against it in spirit. (And if they did it in Texas...) I mean... Why should a state that is split 45%-55% give all of it's electoral votes to one candidate. Yes, I know there are pros and cons to a state-by-state electoral election. So what do you all think?Separately, I'm annoyed that the fight against the hyperbole party of The Patriot Act and the Clean Air Act has lowered to that level and now launches the Courage Campaign. I know, its not an official party slogan, but it disappoints me that the only way to get any political traction these days it to take an issue and make it into an emotional struggle instead of an issues debate.
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7 comments // Dirty Tricks? Two wrongs make it right?

  • Gouveia
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      Gouveia  

    • If we can't get it right with voting, than we are all just wasting our time talking about any issues. I agree with somerandomdude the lack of interest in true electoral reform drives me crazy. I also agree with the straight popular vote. After reading the "Armed Madhouse" by Greg Palast I am left with a feeling of apathy about our current state of things.

    • 4 years ago
  • animatorgeek
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      animatorgeek  

    • What's interesting to me is that if this passed then it would largely remove California from having an effect on the election. Until all the states do this, it doesn't contribute to a fair accounting of votes in the presidential election.

    • 4 years ago
  • shay_sowden
  • saskia
  • somerandomdude
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      somerandomdude  

    • If we think there is a flaw in the system, we should change it for all states on a non-electoral year. I agree with the idea, I just have a problem with how both parties try to skew this idea to work for their own ends.

      Yes, the Democratic party is just as guilty of attempting this tactic in 2004...

      http://www.fairvote.org/articles/denverpost.htm

      ...and are considering the same tactic (ironically during this cycle, just like the thing they are complaining about in California) in North Carolina

      http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/11/us/politics/11vote.html (3rd paragraph down)

      What annoys me about this all is the acute lack of interest in true electoral reform. Both parties want reform when it will help them and business as usual when it will help them. These sorts of actions tell me that both parties care more about the health of their party than the health of the nation.

    • 4 years ago
  • klenga
  • sgwhites
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      sgwhites  

    • If you're going to split by percentages (which I actually think should be the case) it should be done across the board. No picking and choosing which states you'd like to split and which to keep winner-take-all.

    • 4 years ago
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