CBS News Poll - Gore emerges as a serious contender!

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Comment from peace-marcher, Vince Robbins, 51, of Mount Holly, N.J., said there needed to be more rallies and more outrage.

"Where's the outcry? Where's the horror that almost 4,000 Americans have died in a foreign country that we invaded?" Robbins said. "I'm almost as angry at the American people as I am the president. I think Americans have become apathetic and placid about the whole thing."

"To meet the challenge of our times, human beings will have to develop a greater sense of universal responsibility. Each of us must learn to work not only just for his, or her, own self, family or nation, but for the benefit of all mankind." His Holiness The Dalai Lama

If we want our country back we need to get rid of this "system", this "military-industrial complex". Who ever they are, they are the ones who put Bush and his administration in place. All unelected and running the government of our wonderful country into the ground according to their own needs, not the needs of the people. The way to get rid of them is to form a "groundswell" of support for someone, like Al Gore, who operates outside the system. Gore supporters need to become a "groundswell" to show them that we, or a vast majority of us, don't like what they've done. That will give a mandate to someone, like Al Gore, to work outside this system for the good of the country. When Gore knows he has that kind of support, and can operate for the good of the country not the system, I think he will run.

Jan, you said, "You want him in the same system that stole it all in 2000" and my answer to that is no, I want that system to be changed (not ignored or sidestepped) by a leader like Gore who does not buy into the corrupt parts of that system. We can't ignore the system and hope it will go away. Ignoring it and doing nothing to make it better is hardly better than People you mentioned who have done nothing over the last 7 years. The draft movement is a group of individuals who believe we need a leader of conscience, experience, and reason to change politics as usual. We believe Al Gore has left the door open to a possible run because he continues not to rule it out unlike he did back in 2002 prior to the 2004 presidential election. Hopefully we can agree to disagree on this issue as the big picture of climate change is something we can all agree upon and need to work together on. There is no need or time for negative or angry feelings between sides when there is so much work to be done.

"And personally, all I see on this site is the same incessant hounding that has taken over every blog where I would suspect some of those who once called him a DLC sellout now think him so wonderful simply because he is now considered popular and they think he can "win" over the ones they hate."

Jan I'm really sorry you're seeing things this way in this discussion. I honestly don't see that myself.

But you're right: we do need to be careful that we aren't creating a personality cult. Al Gore's already a larger-than-life public personality so we need to guard against excessive and unquestioning flattery and praise.

The other important point you make, to my mind, is: Where are "the people"? Shopping? How could we let all these things happen over the last seven years without making so much as a peep? Let's get our priorities in order! This is too important for us to keep on letting things slide.

Backing of the people my eye. This country has sunk for seven years and where have the people been? You want him in the same system that stole it all in 2000 without ANY guarantees he would even be allowed to get that far or without taking anything else into account regarding what he truly wishes to do which he should be allowed to decide for himself after all his years of service to this country. Not very logical or respectful to me. But then, politics isn't logical nor moral in my view. I say, if he would have to revert to the ways of that military industrial complex he IS better off working out here. And personally, all I see on this site is the same incessant hounding that has taken over every blog where I would suspect some of those who once called him a DLC sellout now think him so wonderful simply because he is now considered popular and they think he can "win" over the ones they hate.That's not a draft, that's pure political rhetoric.Your romanticist view of it is just that. In reality if you want someone of his caliber serving in DC you better work to change the game first, which I don't see happening at all. So until then I will trust his judgement and support his way of approaching doing just that.

I'm all for discussing opinions to find solutions, that is what democracy is supposed to be about. As Al says, it's not a political (partisan) issue, but a moral one. However, he also believes the most effective place to make the changes necessary is in the position of the President of the United States (which is a political position), so this is Al Gore's stated opinion and I find no logical reason why we are being unfair to the man by using the words he himself stated. Just as a patriot who chooses to enlist in the military to defend his or her country does so not because of an "interest" in the unpleasantries, danger, and tragedy of war, but because they believe it is the right thing to do. Al Gore is not "interested" in politics for the same reasons the patriot is not interested in war, however, if he believes as he has stated, that it is the best place to accomplish the changes needed, then we believe with the backing of the People (remember that Eisenhower did not want to run until he was overwhelmingly convinced by the people through a draft movment, a great show of democracy in action, to step into the race), that he like the patriot will make the choice he believes to be right... "Ideas are great arrows, but there has to be a bow. And politics is the bow of idealism."
~Bill Moyers

goraclefan:

Did you see me arguing with you? I didn't even address you, I made a statement about the DFA poll which allows you to vote more than once thus skewing the results. it would also appear to me that the MSM and some groups are deliberately turning this into their own Gore/Clinton steel cage match for political purposes. Personally, I find that unfair to the man, especially based on the fact that he truly does not seem interested in it. So as far as butting heads, you are simply going to have to understand that I will be giving my opinion on that when I see fit.

Yes, Jan, I'm beginning to fear that "the lobbyists" own the majority of congress and the political candidates - including Hillary. What else would explain the things they say and do - especially regarding "the war"?

What I thought was interesting in the article about the CBS poll was its claim that "most Democrats are for Hillary" when that's not really what was indicated. The poll shows how very strong Gore is even without being a candidate. This was just a footnote in the final paragraph! Shows how clearly the media is pushing the "inevitable Hillary" angle. I think big media and big business are threatened by an Al Gore presidency. All the more reason for him to run...

Jan, I so appreciate the climate and environment issues that you stand for. Maybe it would be more productive for us to just agree to disagree on the issue of whether or not Al would accomplish more as president or outside of politics. In the big picture, I think we probably agree on climate change issues for the most part and that they are of utmost importance, so instead of spending our time and energy arguing with each other, maybe our time would be better spent on our goals. My goal for instance is encouraging Al to work within the (political) system to make change, and I'm assuming yours is for him to work outside the political system to make changes. Our goals don't have to constantly knock heads like this, there's no reason for that. You work on climate solutions your way and we'll work on them our way, potato, pototto...

Well, as for the DFA poll, my friend just went in to test it (I don't do polls) and she actually could vote for three picks more than once using a different e-mail address from the same computer. So how is that indicative of anything if you can have a draft group send out an e-mail to their list or for that matter, any candidate send out an e-mail to their lists and then all those who go there vote for them more than once while others may not? Is that not rigging the results regardless of who is first? And if that is the case, is that really fair to Mr. Gore to give him false results that may have been pumped up just thinking it would push him into it? Shouldn't he be told the truth? And why are people making this a fight between him and Hillary Clinton when he isn't even a candidate? Don't some have anything better to do on the Internet? Do they truly think polls and political backbiting is where he is at now? A Nobel Peace Prize winner? A global leader?

Hey IndyOp, it looks like all of the haters are out in force today. I read the article earlier today and it reinforces what people like you and me have been saying for a while. The best part is that when polled the majority of Dems say that they like the field of candidates, but when you put Al into the mix--without campainging-- Al rises to the top. It says a lot about how much Gore is liked and respected, how much this country needs him.

It's too bad but, history has shown us that Al Gore won't fight hard enough to take the Presidency. I'm glad he's fighting for our environment, but we can be sure he won't stand up against Hilary.