Guess what Florida & Michigan voters? You DO count...sorta

dreams and wishes... arent we past all that?

the problem is not that we have two "completely qualified candidates", its history... look at the patterns, the next up is a dem. people want a change, they will vote the opposite empowered party.
its not democracy, its a wollf-in-sheeps-clothing corporate community. look at things like the patriot act and its renewal, big oil and a few other "buzz words" floating around all this.

when you go to vote, ask yourself, "who's paying for what theyre preaching?",,,,

i dont mean to direct all this at AceHardchester, but the phrasing used was irritating

We should just solve this issue like they did in the first years of the party, force whomever has the lesser amount of delegates to be the other candidates VP. That way everyone's happy and someone is set up to take the next election.

Obama/Clinton '08

boosh.

im sure this is echoed in michigan.... there is no "win" without a contest.
obviously, my vote is for O'Bama. it will be interesting to see if new media (blogging and social groups) will have any pull in this.
i'd love a vote here. and i think that no matter the outcome, michiganders should have a say. the field is already without any decent form of competition, do we really need to narrow it anymore?

Why does the one state with the worst tract record keep deciding our elections? It is too wierd!

No Way should they go to that "MONSTER"! Clinton is turning out to be one of the most dirty and contradicting candidates the democratic party has ever seen. She knew the rules going into the election, yet she's trying to bend them to her favor. I'm an Obama supporter from Florida and I (nor many of my friends and co-workers) went to vote for Obama in the primary because we thought it didn't matter since we were stripped of our delegates. I decided to take the time off to vote in the general election to make a little extra cash. Now my state might go to Clinton even though no one campaigned here, no voter turnout drives were held, no hope that any vote cast would matter at all. Florida should not have the delegates reinstated and I'm even against a new primary. The candidates should stick the rules they both agreed to at the beginning of this primary.

In Michigan, she narrowly won. 2nd place in Michigan was "Undecided" which Obama voters were told to put. If they give have that primary count, Obama wouldn't a single delegate. (hense why Hillary wants them to count and doesn't want a re-vote now with Obama on the ballot)

The voting results of Michigan and Florida are not accurate as many voters didn't bother voting as they were told it would not count. These voters (regardless if they wanted to vote for Hillary, Obama, or Edwards) shouldn't be penalized because they were following the rules.

Are you kidding me. What good is a date. If you are passionate about a candidate then an early date won't determine anything. Fuck the logistics it comes down to a VOTE. If any of you have been to Michigan , you would know that it is a complete mess and the people of the glove REALLY NEED A SAY. This is absolute BULLSHIT.

vote again, Hilary is really freakin me out.

ugh.....

As a MI resident, I would gladly participate in another primary election (one with an actual choice this time would be welcomed.) Unfortunately the state can't afford it. Ahh. The price of democracy.

Since they violated the rules for the days they could hold the primary, they should pay for redoing it and redo it... perhaps the candidates who want to be on the ballot should pay for it on second thought. They are the ones using donations for their mudslinging. The bottomline is that the voters should have their voices heard and their delegates seated. It is the voters who should be of primary importance.

yeah it shouldn't count because in Michigan I believe it was 55 percent for Clinton, and 40 percent Uncommited... meaning 40 percent would rather vote for no one that her.....

oh yeah... but there is no way Michigan could fund a do-over... with the state the michigan economy is in... worst in the nation.... the state government shut down earlier this year because of budget issues....

So as democrats and republicans or whatever party you fall into, ask yourself, no matter who you like or dislike, how can you say you believe in democracy if you go around feeding into the BS, the political games, saying some peoples votes count less or more than others, and continue to spread the seed of distaste towards one candidate over another when everyone has the right to decide for themselves...do you not agree?

There is a reason this democratic election is so divided, thats because they have two completely qualified candidates who both could potentially be running the country this time next year...

Both of them have done their fair share of rights and wrongs but I propose for you to look at the bigger picture...that being US...the voters, the citizens, the people of this country. No matter who you vote for; it should be for someone who will help make your dreams, wishes, and needs happen.

Anyone else agree?

Of course they should go to Hillary, because she represents the same interests as George Bush does; she's just packaged for a different group of people.

No way should the previous votes in Florida or Michigan count. I live in Texas and there were reports here that republican voters were voting for Clinton only because they think that would be a better match-up for McCain.

i think i heard that obama wasnt even on the ballot for michigan. and i live in florida. there werent any campaign adds on the T.V. and not much talk of either candidates. a revote would the the DEMOCRATIC thing to do.

She didn't win them she was the only name on the ballot that voters recognized. Like devo said, a redo is the only way to make it fair.

No way should they go to Hillary. She didn't "win" them, she was given them. In all fairness a redo is the best option I believe.