Is white racism causing trouble for Obama's campaign?

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People are starting to ask, after his recent losses in West Virginia and Kentucky.
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  • PlatoTacius
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      PlatoTacius  
    • the racists would rather just forget the half white part...don't you realize, they hate that even more, because of the interbreeding stigma...

      You can bet they'll not let up on the race card now...

    • 4 years ago
  • tiambers
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      tiambers  
    • how come no one has mentioned that Barack is also white? and that he was raised by a white mother?

      why is it ok for Barack to be classified as only black when he is both white and black? why isn't that acknowledged? that goes back to the 1 drop rule...

    • 4 years ago
  • carla1
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      carla1  
    • what happens behind
      in the republic scenerie??
      are they getting stronger by this exposure
      of two star runners democrats?
      in secret ?

    • 4 years ago
  • realcanadian
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      realcanadian  
    • keith. Its interesting how the racial tension in society is generated, no? If we all clam down and take notice at how its poured into our lives through the television and media, we can see its the same perpetrator. It creates a wedge and divides the people. I think people in general are thick, and choose to believe what they're told as its easier than deciding on their own. If mankind could come together, the 'man behind the curtain' would be exposed and only then can we learn to live in harmony. It cant be that hard eh, just turn the tv off, stop reading main-stream media newspapers, and of coarse stop supporting Israel.

    • 4 years ago
  • Bee_charmer
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      Bee_charmer  
    • As does keith, I love the truth, and I love the dialog that opens as a result of people sharing their thoughts. We each have our own truths and our own way of perception. I did not mean to imply that racism does not exist by stating that I felt that sexism is a more insidious problem, nor did I intend to appear insensitive to that issue. I really like hearing everyone's views--that is one thing that the Web facilitates very well!

      My comment about sexism is a reflection of frustration and dismay at the degree to which sexism is still tolerated and even encouraged. Whereas it is absolutely and completely unacceptable to use racist epithets, pejorative, derisive, sexist epithets still fill the airwaves on a regular basis and nothing is done about them, be it Chris Matthews, Alex Castellana, Keith Olberman, Jack Cafferty, or any of the other rude, insensitive, misogynistic appearing mouthpieces that regularly voice offensive phrases with impunity.

      I truly celebrate diversity and difference--I love what each culture brings to the world, and thus, have no animosity toward anyone. That being said, however, I still, as does every other American, have the right to form an opinion as to who is best for the job as president, without the risk of being called racist and/or sexist, as the case may be, and I resent such implications because of my choice, or anyone else's choice, as should every one else.

      It is my opinion that If racism was truly playing a large role in this campaign, there would be no african americans campaigning for Hillary Clinton, and no white campaigning for Barak Obama. Color does not and should not automatically determine how people think and vote, and I could be wrong about this, but it has been my observation during this campaign that misogyny and sexism have played a larger role than racism. It is not that racism does not exist, it is that sexism is more pronounced and prevalent.

      It should be remembered that black men got the right to vote long before any women, black or white did, and that among many people today, a MAN is preferable to a WOMAN as a presidential candidate, regardless of race.

    • 4 years ago
  • PlatoTacius
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      PlatoTacius  
    • Consider whether Obama didn't campaign in KY because he felt that Hilary would probably win KY anyway and he would rather make a bigger showing elsewhere...This being said, Obama won most of the vote in the larger urban areas in KY because these people were better informed...It was the rural vote that killed him...So, I don't believe it's as much about race as it is about ignorance...the rural masses having been mislead...Like calling the man Hussein, in an attempt at smearing him, Paratus.....that's plain ignorance...promulgated by those who have big selfish ideas for themselves and very narrow minds for everyone else...following the neocon talking points...

    • 4 years ago
  • marisa_bklyn
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      marisa_bklyn  
    • First of all I never said racism did not exist. Of course it does but so does sexism discrimination against gays and many other forms of inequality. But to deny blacks can and are racist is denying reality.Also what white privledge? where I work it's about 90% blacks. On a regular they use terms like cracker and say many derogatory things about white people in front of whites. Of course, whites say nothing b/c if they did they might be seen as racist. The blacks think it's funny. Also, most of the kids are black and being called white is like the biggest insult. I've even had white kids crying deny there white b/c they're embarrassed and ashamed to be white.I tell them you shldn't judge people based on their color and that color shldn't matter and I sincerely believe this. When I tell them I am white many are in denial. They say "no your not white just light skin" You can't be white your nice." Another child told me to stop saying bad things like that about myself stop going around calling yourself white." One kid got into a fight with another for calling me white. She said "stop calling her white she can't help it it's not her fault she's white she was born that way." So much for white priveledge.
      Also, y is sexism O.K. ? I've heard that at a fundraiser Barack played the JZ song "99 Problems and a Bitch Ain't One" some thought it was a reference to Clinton. He said it wasn't he just likes rap. Even if it wasn't bitch is a derogatory term used against all women. But why is that O.K. when if it were reversed and there was a song called 99Problems and a Nigger ain't One OmG someone wld be killed. Both racism and sexism are wrong so y is one so socially acceptable? If u don't believe me everytime u hear the word bitch being used in your mind replace it with nigger and you'll see. Someone might say women weren't subjected to slavery. No, what many women wereand still are subjected to is much worse than the slavery blacks faced. Also, blaks from Africa did sell other tribes to whites and also had their own slaves that's not an opinion but a fact. You can't argue a fact whether it's P.C. or not.

    • 4 years ago
  • celestialceiling
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      celestialceiling  
    • "Some commentators have said that your problem is not with race—it's with geography. The Daily Kos Web site recently posted a map that makes the point: the majority of counties in which more than 65 percent of whites voted for Clinton closely track Appalachia—the mountainous region running from New York into the Deep South, where voters tend to be somewhat less well-off and less well educated than in other parts of the country. These same commentators note that you have done well in other mostly white, rural states like Wisconsin, Iowa and Oregon. That's all true, and it's important not to exaggerate the scale of the problem."

    • 4 years ago
  • celestialceiling
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      celestialceiling  
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    • I agree with Joan Walsh. Obama needs to compaign in Appalachia.
      Where many voters are uneducated.

      The cover story of Newsweek addresses this as well.
      Click on the link to read the article---->

      The cover of the magazine is turning people's heads across America

    • 4 years ago
  • carla1
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      carla1  
    • very sensitive observation and research
      but there is no answer
      for obama is a student type
      and not a working class type
      the clinton man is also a working class idol
      for he knows mor about classes then race .
      so for what hilary realy stands in
      i do not know -for i do not watch much TV.

      carla1

    • 4 years ago
  • realcanadian
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      realcanadian  
    • I will say that Blacks may have it harder because of their color, but Whites dont have it easy cause they're White. I had no special treatment cause of my color, and yet we see a change of tide where Blacks now get special treatment or the job because of who they are, not their qualifications. Of coarse, all of what im saying doesn't apply to all Whites or Blacks.
      The mess that your talking about Keith has been made possible by White puppets of a Zionist agenda. Obama cant change that, America is owned and operated by Zionists who put Israel ahead of your own country, due to propaganda and constant brainwashing from holocaust bullshit. Neither you or i are responsible for the non-debatable canned story of the holocaust, yet the media and Hollywood /Speilberg drive the people to rise up and fight, for Israel.
      I firmly believe there wouldn't be a 'race' problem if the media wasn't constantly working at stirring tension of the people whether its slaves, holocaust, mexico and immigration,,,you get the picture.
      World peace, boycott Israel!

    • 4 years ago
  • krag2112
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      krag2112  
    • It's funny how some posters claim racism doesn't exist but sexism had a huge impact on this nomination process. There's a pretty strong case of sour grapes going on here. There is still racism and sexism in our society. Anyone who claims otherwise has their head in the sand. And yes, there is such a thing as reverse racism and yes it still happens too. But the reason it isn't talked about as much is because it's difficult for a minority group to impose their prejudice on a majority group. But of course it's just as wrong as any other from of racism. But before anyone claims that the only reason Obama is getting overwhelming support among the black community is because of the color of his skin you should remember the facts. Back in December of last year, just six months ago, Senator Clinton had a huge lead among African American voters. Obama's skin color didn't change, but what did change was that he ran a much better campaign, and as the rest of the country started to turn for him, so did African American voters. Yes in greater numbers, but the fact that they once supported Clinton shows that most don't just vote based on race.

    • 4 years ago
  • realcanadian
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      realcanadian  
    • Marisa_bklyn has hit many points right-on. Racism only goes one-way. When Black people express pride, its culture, when Jews express pride its history, when Whites express pride it 'racism'. 'Racism' is no more than an action word hurled at those who you wish to discredit. If this word held any water then it could be used in both directions.
      Forced integration is the worst thing thats happened to our countries. Were not allowed to be proud of our races achievements, except Blacks. They have been compensated with special privileges due to something that happened hundreds of years ago, slavery. Now, your gonna have a Black President, not because he's the best person for the job but because he's Black. America has a bad case of White guilt, and that shouldn't play a role in Whites voting for Obama. If i was American, id vote for whoever was telling the truth, who will end the 'war or terror' and bring the troops home, where the real war is. From what ive read, its Ron Paul who may be able to turn things around, they rest are liars.

    • 4 years ago
  • Bee_charmer
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      Bee_charmer  
    • Not NEARLY as much as sexism and misogyny have hurt Hillary Clinton. As the BY FAR most qualified candidate for president of the United States, Hillary Clinton has faced more disrespect, crude and irrelevant criticism, and prejudice than Barak Obama could ever have even imagined.

    • 4 years ago
  • Paratus
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      Paratus  
    • Racism is a phoney excuse and a crock. Husseins campaign has problems due to the positions of Hussein, nothing more. I don't see any racism anywhere. I wish people would stop dragging this old tired topic into the fore. Much ado about nothing.

    • 4 years ago
  • metasailor
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      metasailor  
    • Paratus:

      I foundParatus' pretty unintentionally ironic.

      Barack H. Obama's middle name is Hussein. So? Why would you make a big deal out of his middle name, "Hussein"?

      Obviously, to stress his father's Muslim heritage, which is a Big Deal to those who think all Muslims want to do us is bomb us and steal our white women.

      Keeping that in mind, read this below:

      "Racism is a phoney excuse and a crock. [The dirty Muslim] Husseins campaign has problems due to the positions of [the dirty Muslim] Hussein, nothing more. I don't see any racism anywhere."

      I'm sure you don't see racism anywhere. Even when it's coming from you. But it's still there, if anything matters more to you than what the man actually said and what the man actually does.

    • 4 years ago
  • marisa_bklyn
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      marisa_bklyn  
    • Another thing why are white people so afraid of being considered a racist that they will not say anything if called a cracker or anything else racist? Sometimes they even go along with it or insult themselves.I have freinds of all races. And black people sometimes do this on purpose. When at the losing end of an argument or just for fun they insinuate racism or make a racist remark b/c they know whites will say nothing. It's just as bad to call someone a cracker as it is a nigger. White guilt guilty about what whites living today r not the same people that had slaves. I wasn't on earth 200 yrs ago. Besides blacks also had slaves and sold other blacks into slavery to whites. Also, there's slavery gonig on right know but not with race but sex. Women in parts of Africa and Pakistan are possibly in a worse situation than African-americans ever were. They can't even show there face and can be killed for nothing. They're nothing more than baby machines and slaves to men. And this is going on right now. Also, y is it O.K. to call a woman a bitch but taboo to say nigger both r wrong.

    • 4 years ago
  • marisa_bklyn
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      marisa_bklyn  
    • I always find it funny that racism seems to be O.K. when it's directed at white people. Racism goes both ways but for some reason white people will not acknowledge that I guess it's not P.C. Black people can and some are racist however that's O.K.
      For example, many blacks said that the main or only reason they were voting for Obama is because he is black. If that's not racist I don't know what is. Voting for a candidate based on the color of their skin. If a white person said that it wld be called racist why is it O.K. the other way around?

    • 4 years ago
  • greav
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      greav  
    • What you seem to be missing is that while Obama may be an ok candidate, and racism is most likely playing a role in his weak support among certain whites, Clinton's policies are more progressive as far as working-class people go. The issue of universal health care alone makes her the best choice for the working class. Her plan includes everyone, Obama's does not.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Sure, any white person in America who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist. Nice guilt trip some have going there. So sick of this meme being pushed down our throats. Did he then win states with large black populations because they were black? Did it occur to anyone that he may have lost those states because people are POOR as well and some of them didn't have faith he would help them? Of course not, because all some people here did was trash the people of those states by calling them uneducated redneck hicks. Real intelligent political discourse we got going here too.

    • 4 years ago
  • realcanadian
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      realcanadian  
    • Joan, looks like you have a really bad case of 'White-guilt'. Are you saying the White people who dont vote for Obama are racist? I long for the day when that meaningless word is taxed, or defined to mean the dislike of someone who is different. I can accept that, your kind cant.
      Americans are so hypocritical about race, as you try to claim you've got over this issue, but its so obvious you haven't.
      Wheres my ole' buddy AreOh on this topic? According to him there isnt races and were all the same. hehe

    • 4 years ago
  • dmfine71
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      dmfine71  
    • it certainly brings up the question of whether Obama could lose Ohio in the general to McCain, and also, there's the reality that in the primaries we're dealing with very small numbers and percentages of voters... Maybe we really don't have a clear picture of what or how most Americans think/feel about Senator Obama... McCain is too old for my taste, and seems very on the Right to Obama's liberal centrism... But if race could go against Obama, it could stick us with a very conservative/hawkish President of our grandparents era. I really don't think that's what America and the world needs right now...

    • 4 years ago
  • boredwell
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      boredwell  
    • It's pretty cut and dry as far as the racism reason is concerned. No one is going to convince a commited racists to vote, not for candidate/president, but BLACK.
      I beleive that was Obama's reason to forego campaigning in Kentucky which has significant numbers of working class in the Appalachia mining region. Though, statistically, Kentucky's ratio of white to black voters in numbers give whites a handy majority. Does this mean because Obama is black that, ironically, this block of voters will take a woman? Does this mean sexism is dead in America? NO, it indicates that anyone is better than a black. I risk being elitist by affirming my concern that Obama's platform has sometimes been couched in "big" words. His muted,subtle response to Rev Wright was a complete disaster. He applied intelligent reasoning to a subject that caused a blacklash of reactionary emotions.His speechwriter and ppublic relations staff did him a disservice. Again the subject was race and Obama was not convincing that he objected vehemently enough. Obama appeals to the educated because he IS educated. Working class people think this is being talked down. Obama will never be able to overcome racism and shouldn't try. Even if he becomes president, racism will continue and perhaps even escalate. He'll make a great scapegoat for this predjudiced segment of the population.

    • 4 years ago
  • episkey
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      episkey  
    • Word Neghie. Although I do worry about situations like this adding up. I am personally still very worried that McCain might be more of a challenge to beat in November than we presume. Barack is going to need all the votes he can get!

    • 4 years ago
  • Neghie
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      Neghie  
    • Ditto krag. How soon do people forget how things started. Hillary did come into this race with a brand name people trust and know. For someone with a name like Barak Hussein Obama to come out of nowhere and take over a race she assumed was hers for the taking didn't happen from a glitch in the system. They've worked themselves to a pretty good position. Chalk it up to the fact that he's black, can speak well or that he's tall, young and not that bad lookin'. He's kicking butt and doing it without getting dirty. He was the underdog and still is. Just because Hillary's the one kicking and screaming now doesn't change that position.

      There are those that will never vote for him because of his skin color, despite the knowledge of his racial background. Why devote any kind of energy to that type of ignorance? Like Krag says, perhaps "it's time people at least started to consider the fact that he and his staff might know what they are doing."

    • 4 years ago
  • krag2112
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      krag2112  
    • Joan there's a new poll out today that shows him opening up a 9 point lead in Ohio. I don't deny that he has a challenge connecting with certain groups (or sub-groups) of voters but I think with a little time and and effort, and not having someone from his own party actively trashing him daily, he'll close the gaps.

      http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/05/23/ohio-vp-matchups/

      He has played is cards right to win the nomination (coming from pretty far behind), I think it's time people at least started to consider the fact that he and his staff might know what they are doing.

    • 4 years ago
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