News and Politics | May 27, 2008 | 59 comments

Sexism sells--but we're not buying it

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An interesting video looking at sexism in the news media. It's hard to believe that in 2008, the news media can still get away with spewing this sexist nonsense.
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59 comments // Sexism sells--but we're not buying it // Video

  • dkincheloe
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      dkincheloe  
    • I arrived at this Current link through trying to submit this, too. I'm pleased that you found this video and submitted it far earlier.

      This video (Fox and MSNBC) disgusts me. I honestly thought (really!) that only ignorant fools spoke still spoke this way, thought this way. I'm truly shocked and dismayed.

      Why are we still allowed to speak this way about women and people with non-hetero orientations?

    • 3 years ago
  • averagejoesgym
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      averagejoesgym  
    • Us poor feminists....waahhhhh.
      Women act superifical all the time. They use looks and the superficial to get favors, get out of things, etc... So, the message is: we can act as phony and manipulative and goofy as we want. However, regardless of any past actions, at a moment's notice and when it suits us, everyone has to treat us like serious, somber intellectuals. So sick of Middle/Upper class white American women, who arguably have the best lives in the history of the world, pouting.

    • 3 years ago
  • PoliticalGeek
  • smorrisey
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      smorrisey  
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    • wow - totally blatant disregard for reality and epic failure to address the actual problem. its a cheap bait and switch
      to blame sexism on a media conspiracy.

      90% of these clips were taken completely out of context ...how deceitful.

      These are political pundits who get paid to speculate on how America probably feels about identity issues.

      They give just as much - actually more - coverage to appearance and superficiality for male public figures:
      flagpins, grey hair...their choice of interns and/or prostitutes, their bathroom escapades, their weight, facial hair, what they do with their hands when they talk, how they read a teleprompter, and so on.

      I'll bet you won't find one single 'sexist' remark toward any other major female politician.
      Reporters tend to act divisive and shallow when covering the Clinton mega-drama which gave them several years of divisive, shallow activity to report on.

      There were three or four clips here with radical guest speakers who rarely get invited to speak on cable news programs - and only to bring some context to the sexist bigoted demographic - largely unrepresented in the media.
      The most viscous rhetoric about Hillary came from female journalists anyway. Maureen Dowd rox!!!

      omg - how dreadfully trite to blame the media for society's problems--especially problems which outdate the advent of television and print.
      y'all give them way too much credit.

      Sexism is much worse in nations that aren't blessed with a sex-crazed tabloid media circus.

      Assuming this media sexism conspiracy to hold women back did exist [ it doesn't - put on your tin-foil helmet ] but if it did, clearly America is 'buying it' - as cable news ratings have reached all-time highs while taking in record-breaking ad revenues.

    • 3 years ago
  • PoliticalGeek
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      PoliticalGeek  
    • This is a great compilation of the sexism in the media. Why does continue to allow people like Buchanan and Matthews and just about anyone one Fox be our "unbiased" media talking heads?

    • 3 years ago
  • lemonsun12
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      lemonsun12  
    • i can't believe that guy who said "oh, besides the PMS and the mood swings" and the "vagina monologues should not become a dialogue"
      and tucker carlson with the "Oh, im not embarresed at all."
      Wow. I'm actually quite shocked.

    • 3 years ago
  • PlanetBJR
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      PlanetBJR  
    • As an envoy of my kind, I apoligize for our ignorant maleness...
      I shall continue to strive on behalf of rights for women and all oppressed...
      My Laser Cannons have been trained on all...
      I shall now add gender bias as an option...

    • 3 years ago
  • LWSheehan
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      LWSheehan  
    • observer21: I didn't mean to generalize or make assumptions from your post, and I'm certainly no more capable of enlightening anyone more than they can enlighten me! I guess my point is just that if every time someone judges someone for their appearance (or sex or religion or whatever), and we respond by categorizing them for their appearance/sex/religion/whatever, we are just perpetuating the problem. I want to punch some of those people in the pod who were being so shallow and sexist and judgmental, but I can't ignore the fact that it makes me cringe when we respond to those comments by saying, "well, they are rich white men... what else did we expect?" (I'm not insinuating that you said this, I'm just using it as an example).

    • 4 years ago
  • maitresse1
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      maitresse1  
    • this is a powerful pod. i was unaware of most of these opinions, because i deliberately do not watch foxnews or msnbc. maybe i better start checking in to see what the enemy is up to?
      very scary.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Stephanie: I wasn't generalizing with that comment. It was an example from my own experience. I actually knew the women and heard them talk in the coffee room about how they believed their positions would be in jeopardy if they got married and had a child. I didn't say all women in those positions who do not marry or have children who do that 'by choice' are wrong. I think you should be free to do whatever you want in life. However, the fact that these few women felt their positions were in jeopardy for doing something they may really have wanted to do seems very wrong to me. It seemed to be some unwritten rule as well that if you had a child you just didn't come back (I suppose their thinking was that your husband would take care of you and you then didn't need to be in the workplace) and every woman (which really wasn't many in comparison to the men there) who was a Vp and up in that department were neither married nor had children and expressed that fact that they didn't want to lose their job by getting married and having a baby. And one that did never came back. And once I did I was replaced by a man when I had not even resigned and had to fight to get my job back.To feel as though you will be fired or penalized for deciding to marry or have children is something women should not have to tolerate in the workplace. I even had a woman supervisor bring me into her office after I got married to ask me if I planned to get pregnant in the first year. Where do they get off prying into my private life?

    • 4 years ago
  • observer2121
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      observer2121  
    • LWSheehan, I didn't actually say anything about all white men, I referred to "RICH" white guys. Even then I don't think all rich white guys are sexist, but they have very few obsticles to face in terms of isms.

      If rich white guys don't have it the best in America maybe you can enlighten us.

    • 4 years ago
  • Ricky84
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      Ricky84  
    • Yeah don’t forget there are two hundred thousand sex slaves in America right now. No one cares about this because McCain was the one who brought up the subject and he’s a republican so liberal people don’t listen to him. Which I feel is a perfect example of why prejudices do nothing for us.

      Men are throwing cheap shots at Clinton. Women are blaming men for and not perverts who perpetuate such stereotypes. Conservatives denounce liberals while liberals denounce conservatives just for names sake. Same thing with Republicans and Democrats, whites and blacks, citizens and none citizens. All the while the real issues are ignored, or at least thrown in the backseat.

      No one is above it. I elbowed the crap out of an emo kid during warped tour last year. It was great. I enjoyed it.

    • 4 years ago
  • mayalynn
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      mayalynn  
    • Why do people keep trying to bring it back to the elections? You're on the wrong thread...

      stardate, what about black women? And what about the fact that plenty more women than men, regardless of race, are continually being bought and sold as slaves all over the world as we speak?

    • 4 years ago
  • mayalynn
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      mayalynn  
    • Damn, radiovolume, that was a good catch. What I was trying to say is that it's very lop-sided the way men in movies can always win women over with humor and smarts, regardless of their appearance and lifestyle. But a woman's worth is almost always directly proportional to her looks, and her personality and intellect come after.

      Like Sheehan said, a lot of it is our obsession with appearance.

      But seriously, I know life isn't perfect for all white men, but everyone's got problems. So whatever problem your average middle-class white guy has, everyone else has...and then some (and it trickles down logarithmically...sexual orientation times skin pigmentation plus level of poverty raised to the genderth degree...). White men are the most privileged group in our society. If people can't at least acknowledge that, we're never going to see the end of this shit.

      sgwhites, I agree with you about Jan's comment.

      kewal, you must've forgotten about all those important women in history like, Mother Teresa, Marie Curie, or, your whole reason for being here, your mom.

      http://www.biographyonline.net/people/women-who-changed-world.html

    • 4 years ago
  • stardate
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      stardate  
    • One good thing that will come with the end of the Clinton campaign will be the end of this non-stop "men do this women do that men think this women think that" nonsense.

      One listens to Hillary and her fanatic supporters and think that humans don't have anything but gender.
      No intellect no ideas no character nothing. Their very definition is either male or female and that's it.

      It's so gullible.

      I would vote for a table if it could solve the problems I think a president could and should. Why do anyone care about a candidate's sex?

      Hillary has been pushing this theme since the start of her campaign. By contrast I never heard Obama argue the first black president would break some kind of glass ceiling even though women just because they are women have never been treated as badly as black people just because they are black.

    • 4 years ago
  • lifestudentno83
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      lifestudentno83  
    • BTW Kewal:

      I don't know what you usual posts consist of, but the ones I've read in this post are extremely offensive and degrading to women.

      You speak with a lack of maturity and civility, and instead of trying to empathise with women's hardships in society you go off on a rant about the provocative nature of women when really it's your own chauvanistic ego that sexualizes women.

      Women are not sexual objects for you to oogle, or prostitues to your carnal pleasures.

    • 4 years ago
  • yonie
  • tanyetta
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      tanyetta  
    • Kewal- I am just going to be honest and say I am not going to sit here and say that the stuff you saying is all bull. One thing I read is about women in porn and women shaking their ass proper, and crap . The feminist movement is all about women having freedom to do what ever they like with out being criticized. The movement doesn't just stop with looks and jobs, it is wide range and it attacks every aspect of sexism, even sexuality. Why should show girls and video hos give up their jobs to call themselves feminist? To me you are implying that feminist should have a certain look, and that is sexist by itself. You probably didn't mean it like that, but how I read it, it sounding like it.

      My parents have instilled in me about a woman's place, and it is hard to let shit go that is drilled in your head over and over again.

    • 4 years ago
  • Paper_Chase
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      Paper_Chase  
    • Wow! Was I the only one that noticed that most of those comments were uttered by white middle aged men? This just goes to show how completely disconnected they are from my generation. I wonder if they would say those comments to their daughters, grand daughters, and mothers. Ugh, they remind me of creepy old white people who don't know when to shut the f&#k up!

    • 4 years ago
  • LWSheehan
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      LWSheehan  
    • observer2121: while I understand your point of view, your last comment was exactly what I was talking about in my original post. Just because there are many challenges that still face women (and minorities) in the struggle for equality does NOT mean that everything is candy and roses for all white men. Just because the majority of the horrible quotes in this pod were made by white men doesn't mean that all white men think this way, or that no white men have faced challenges of their own or that no white men are "on our side." My husband is one of those "white men" that everyone always refers to as having it so easy, but it couldn't be farther from the truth.

      And again, I think a lot of the quotes from this pod are more about our obsession with physical appearance, and sexism comes into play because our ridiculous expectations for perfect appearance tends to be more rigid for females.

    • 4 years ago
  • lifestudentno83
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      lifestudentno83  
    • Sexism is one of the elephants in the room, along with racism(and apparently ageism and ableism here on Current). If it weren't for women, none of us would even be here right now. They deserve more respect and honor than most give them.

      I have been raised with the morality that all are equal and deserve respect until proven otherwise. I find the comments featured in that video appauling, it feels as if we are stuck in some kind or discriminatory time-warp. I pray for the sake of the fate of the next generation that we overcome the social discrimination that is still in practice today.

    • 4 years ago
  • observer2121
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      observer2121  
    • I don't see how rap has even become a part of this discussion. I watched the video and I seriously doubt that any of those men and women listens to rap. What I did notice was that most of the sexist comments were made by republicans. I think I heard that wimpy Colmes show a little backbone and call foul on one of those comments.

      In my opinion minorities and white women are still in a struggle with the establishment to gain equality. Some groups are further ahead than others but they all want the same thing.

      It must be nice to be a rich white guy.

    • 4 years ago
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • Apparently kewal is unaware of the feminist movement. While we're at it, you do realize it took well over a quarter of a million black people to pass civil rights legislation right? Even then, it's not as if that legislation stopped racism and it's not as if racism has stopped today.

      Seriously dude, you're fucking embarrassing. It's clear from small Freudian slips in your posts that you yourself are very sexist. All women shake their ass to get ahead? It would be awesome if women all laid on the floor and yelled rape me? Are you fucking kidding me? Why did anyone on this comment list let him get away with that?

      Your logic is non-existent and you either have shamelessly ignored the facts or you're completely and hopelessly ignorant.

      Look, women are allowed to have sexualities without having things forced on them. You wouldn't call a man a slut for fucking 100 women or for dressing in a way that made him look attractive or for that matter dancing in a sexy way. He would be praised for these things, the same does not apply to women. It's not the concept of a sexuality that makes a society sexist. If it was acceptable for women to fuck many guys or if it was unacceptable for a man to fuck many women, then there is no sexism in that area. It is the double standards that make something sexist.

      Now it's true that it's not just man's fault for this condition and that men are also held to many double standards, but that does not change the situation we are in at all. It doesn't even MATTER who's to blame for this situation, even though it's obviously a result of male dominated societies, because those things still exist and need to be addressed.

      In short, the only reason you're even still belaboring this pathetic argument is because YOU are sexist. You are attributing your own personal prejudices to fact and then extending them as an excuse for something that's inexcusable. If we were talking about racism, you would have just said that it's ok to not have civil rights because all black people are crazy criminals. It is the EXACT same argument.

      Yes, you do experience sexism in minor ways. But a woman seducing a man is not sexism in any way whatsoever and if you still think it is you might want to spend ten seconds on dictionary.com. Sexism is acting on a prejudice you hold based on someone's sex. Appealing to someone's sexual desires has no place in that anywhere, as it can just as easily go the opposite direction. An example of sexism is not allowing any women to drive because you think they're all bad drivers or not allowing any men to drink because they rape and get into fights.

      You seriously need to educate yourself kewal. For Christ's sake, just go on wikipedia and look up the women's movement or the feminist movement. It will contradict half of your argument. For the other half, spend ten seconds looking up the definition of sexism. Then think about your beliefs on women and ask yourself the following question, can this belief be applied to all women? If the answer is no, then you have yourself a prejudice.

    • 4 years ago
  • Elligirl
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      Elligirl  
    • Kewal:

      "doesnt any1 else think that the foudation of a sexist society is instilled at the youngest age possible? "

      Absolutely! The news clips shown above are part of a larger media machine that has been happy to spew ancient sexist attitudes at everyone who cares to listen. The message is so pervasive that many people don't question it, which leads to perpetuation of the attitude and the problem at hand. Your circular logic is headache inducing.

      Your logic as far as I can tell:
      The problem exists because not enough women stand up to the sexist attitudes. But not enough women stand up to the attitudes because the problem is so pervasive! If you grew up watching rap videos and think that behaviour is normal, why would you act out against them? But because some people don't know better does not mean that everyone else is automatically accepting of the status quo.

      Argh. Seriously!

    • 4 years ago
  • kewal91
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      kewal91  
    • well im basing it on popular culture and rap is one of them........

      think abt it ... rap is not as insignificant as u think.... now that im thinking abt this...

      most teens ... in north america grow listening to atleast a good chunk of it and watching the videos obviously....
      doesnt any1 else think that the foudation of a sexist society is instilled at the youngest age possible?

    • 4 years ago
  • kewal91
  • Ricky84
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      Ricky84  
    • Stop it kewal91. To base your viewpoint of this world on what you see in a rap video is ridiculous. There are billions of women on the planet. You cannot type cast women for the actions of a few and you certainly cannot use it to justify being sexist.

    • 4 years ago
  • kewal91
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      kewal91  
    • Elli elli elli... what u say makes sense... but it took a quarter of a million blacks to storm washington get equal rights..

      sure women dont want to risk thier status...
      ok..
      thats normal
      why fuel the sexist attitude tho... im taking abt the HUGE number of women practically selling themselves for the rap music video.. makin pornos.. making themselves look slutty and hot in practically every movie....
      stuff like that...
      surely thats preventable...

    • 4 years ago
  • iammyfathersson
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      iammyfathersson  
    • Yeah, if a women takes the husband's last name it is accepted as normal, but if a husband wants to take her last name it's blasphemous. I read recently about the legal lengths some couples must go through to have his name changed to hers. I find that silly and pointless.

    • 4 years ago
  • Elligirl
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      Elligirl  
    • Kewal91:

      Did every black american refuse to sit at the back of the bus before Rosa Parks stood her ground? Or did a few determined people slowly change the opinions of those around them? Gosh, those black folks must have been ok with segregation and racism because they didn't try to change it until pretty recently.

      It's easier to go with the status quo. Sometimes it takes a huge sacrifice to even make one little stand against prejudice. Sometimes it costs a person their job, marriage, family, friends, or wealth. Most people don't take a stand because they don't want to take the risk. But to say the persecuted must be accepting of their persecution because they don't all stand up against it is naive.

      After my mother and father divorced, my mom tried to buy a house for her and us kids. Even though she had more seniority at her job and made more money annually than my father did, the bank manager told her that he couldn't sign a mortgage to her unless her ex-husband or her father was able to be a co-signer. This was in the early 90's, not the 50's! She took her business to another bank because she was not ok with that, but how many other women didn't?

    • 4 years ago
  • kewal91
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      kewal91  
    • ELLi girl.....

      ok... i think u know,... like on a sidenote.... u need to read my comments..... think figuretively... and reply....
      cuz if all women just layed down and floor and screamed "Rape me".... it would be AWESOME... but degrading moral values at the max ... society would probably crash pretty fast ....

      wat im sayin is this.... and see if u can follow me here...
      allriht...

      k

      lets do this...

      If women were really that pissed abt this...
      why hasnt any1 dont MAJOR things.... if as i said like 5 posts ago... every woman on the planet...or a simple majority were to come out... and take every sexist ideal down.... then we wouldnt be sexist.... infact just to clarify this...we would be Asexist or NONsexist....

      but this has not happened... which just points to a simple fact that the majority of women dont care abt sexism... and infact they almost embrace it....... u know how i know... that....

      look around...
      like right now... get up... and go downtown....

      count how many ads have a woman posing to look real hot compared the number of guys doing the same...

      obviously the ratio would be like 6000:1.... cuz the term "man prostitute"...(had to say that cuz the W word isnt welcome here).... isnt that famous as the opposite sex .....

      theres like 60 billion sites featuring women pornographic actors compared to lik 10 billion for men... cuz women rush ... yes i am using the term rush .... to make themselves feel better by having people look at them.... and they make a few bucks...

      so answer this... Elli and manliyninli and mafiosoi and w.e..... why .... huh u say women have stood up and they in fact have tried to change. things... but men have butchered them down....why is the ratio of women trying to change thins compared to women trying to keep things the way they is so extreme...

    • 4 years ago
  • Freck
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      Freck  
    • I think that people probably do bother about sexism more than the video describes; it's just the fact that it's such a common thing and people don't know what is offensive enough to complain about.

      If a politician makes a comment about how his female rival shouldn't be considered as a candidate because males have larger brains than females do, then there would be outrage; we know a comment like that is unacceptable as it is an openly sexist remark, therefore, it would be complained about.

      However, if the same politican makes a comment on his rivals dress sense, is that something that we should complain about? We know, of course, that he shouldn't be taking into account what his rival is wearing because it has nothing to do with her views and policies, but we generally let these kind of comments go...

      Unfortunately, this seems like a hard cycle to break. After all, if women complained about every sexist thing on tv (whether right or wrong) they are consequently reinforcing the stereotype of the "nagging woman"!

    • 4 years ago
  • Elligirl
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      Elligirl  
    • "but they get away becuase of a sexist society that was created by both sexes not just man himself... becuase its because women didnt change anything.... they let men create the sexist attitude"

      Kewal91, I'd say you need to go read your history books. Or maybe I need to re-read mine. Which ones talk about women who don't change anything? And which ones talk about women lying down and permitting men to abuse and marginalize them in this way?

    • 4 years ago
  • Elligirl
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      Elligirl  
    • "Any of the distortions about sexism either for or against are just distractions to keep attention away from other agendas "

      Exactly, Argon! But the fact that the media allows itself to perpetuate these distractions and present them as important factors instead of trivial opinions shows how deep the prejudice runs. The fact that people agree and say, "Hey, yeah, she sounds like my first ex-wife. I wouldn't vote for a voice like that" instead of seeing the sexism behind the statements is distressing.

    • 4 years ago
  • kewal91
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      kewal91  
    • Mafios and manliynin. or someting like...

      my comment wasnt an attack on women but perputuating the image of sexism...

      ppl whine about women getting sexually harrased all the fricking time .... but women using men... oh no we cant say that...
      why the F not...
      why is that society marks the woman as a victim and not the man..

      MAFIOSO...
      Women getting bigger boobs and shaking their ass is an implement women use as a result of sexism.

      THAT IS what im saying... if all women or atleast a majority were to believe that the society they live in is in fact sexist and that they truly dont like it..... they wouldnt be doing that... i dunno abt u... but if i was a woman and sm1 guy came up to me said something.... im kickin his blueberries...

      argh
      what im tryin to say is that women are capable and notorious for using men because of a massive flow in our logic.

      but they get away becuase of a sexist society that was created by both sexes not just man himself... becuase its because women didnt change anything.... they let men create the sexist attitude and therefore bystanders are also criminals..

      Janfore Gore...... nice ......all i gotta say.... nice....
      like seriously.. a pig..........like...really...come on now..

    • 4 years ago
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • If Barbara Boxer were running I'd vote for her simply because her record is a whole lot better (I did vote for her for senator since she represents my district)

      It's not about gender, it's about ability

      Any of the distortions about sexism either for or against are just distractions to keep attention away from other agendas

    • 4 years ago
  • sgwhites
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      sgwhites  
    • @Jan, I think your comment about giving up happiness for a job is really interesting. Do you think all of the women who were higher up, and also unmarried and without kids were giving up something, or do you think some of them were honestly more content to do that?

      Obviously, we shouldn't penalize women for having children--which, sadly, still happens albeit in less overt ways--but I also think that it's important to recognize that some women don't want to get married or have kids, and that's a valid choice too.

    • 4 years ago
  • iammyfathersson
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      iammyfathersson  
    • Would Hilary be in this position if she was not Bill's wife?I honestly think that this is a relevant point and before you go off on me ladies, let me say that I don't believe anyone who voted for the current war should even be allowed to run for president. I would much prefer Claire McCaskill or Barbara Boxer. They seem to be brilliant and eloquent women and a lot less power hungry.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Perhaps the men in this video feel threatened by her strength which is why they constantly bring up her appearance to bring it down to that level to divert from that strength. (?)

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Mafioso: If only we lived in the world you described. And I agree with your comments to a point. Some women may feel they have to do those things to feel accepted in the "man's world." I saw it especially prevalent in the business world, even in one company I worked in where all of the women in Vp slots or higher were not even married or had children.To give up your own happiness for a job or to be accepted in the business world is insane. I never did (and was never happier than when I left it to raise my child) and I never let a man define me. I got where I am on my own brain, getting my own education, speaking my own mind, and not allowing anyone man or woman make me feel inferior. And luckily, I found a good man who sees me as an equal and as someone who balances him out as a person as he does me. That's empowerment.

      And Kewal91... while this may be against Current's rules and I apologize to them... you are a pig.

    • 4 years ago
  • LWSheehan
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      LWSheehan  
    • I think this pod sheds some light an important issue, but I think it's sort of like a flashlight trying to illuminate an entire room. There is more to this issue than just Hillary Clinton, or even female sexism. The majority of appaling comments we heard on this pod have to do with American obsession with physical appearance. I think we sometimes forget that men are often subject to the same ridiculous criticism and judgement for the way they look. And while I do think that the unceasing and inappropriate running commentary on Sen. Clinton's appearance is a relevant and timely sample of sexism that is still in effect, I do think it is just that: a sample of a larger problem.

    • 4 years ago
  • mayalynn
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      mayalynn  
    • It's not just television media. It's all the people who release venemous attacks on women in their daily language...and all the men and women who stand by and listen to it. It's Hollywood, who consistently pumps out movies with no interesting female characters, and perpetuates the crazy idea that fat, ugly, lazy guys will somehow end up with beautiful women. I could go on...

      Mafioso, I appreciate your willingness to stick up for the ladies. However, your advice is just as patronizing and offensive as kewal's verbal diarrhea. Who said women need approval from men? Do you know me? Do you know what guides me on my career path? I don't need no man's approval...or advice. Thanks.

      kewal, same to you. You really think all women are the same? So if I say "All men are assholes who rape and fight", that's ok, right? It's ok to generalize, and assume billions of people all act the same way? If my professional skills are shitty at best, why do I get so much work as a freelancer in a male-dominated industry? People wouldn't be paying me to do a shitty job, and I've never flashed someone nor shaken my ass (outside of the dancefloor). I'm not sorry you feel intimidated and controlled by us...you are the lowest of the low.

    • 4 years ago
  • fauxsherrrr
  • Elligirl
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • This is why I don't watch tv.

      I don't doubt for one second that a lot of people don't like Hillary because she's a "tough woman." I'm certain that threatens a lot of pathetic men.

      Although in my opinion a lot of the reason why she's not winning this campaign is because she has awful policies, terrible speeches and is overall just not very Democratic. She's very centrist and she compromises on issues to win votes that I feel is disgusting. A moment pops out in my mind a little over a year ago where she said she would support torture. Even if she didn't mean it, the fact that she compromised on that is unacceptable.

      But again, that clearly isn't the issue here. The issue is very obvious and blatant sexism on our mass media. Of which there's not much I can say. Television journalism has reached the peak of pathetic quality and it very obviously needs legislation fixing or breaking it to promote true journalism or to wipe it off the face of our televisions.

    • 4 years ago
  • iammyfathersson
  • Goodiebags
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      Goodiebags  
    • Shocking and sad.

      I am not a Hillary Clinton supporter and even in the private conversations joking around with my buddies sexist comments are made, however.

      It is very sad to see on the national media. This should be seen at least to remind us that our occasional off color jokes can add up to this.

    • 4 years ago
  • Mafioso
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      Mafioso  
    • I will say, that women need to get away from needing men's approval. Stop treating it like a contest and just ask for what you should always be given, equal credit. It doesn't mean you have to compare and contrast on every single issue. There's no reason that women should feel they have to get men's respect in order to accomplish things. Do what you want to do, whether it's being a lawyer, powerlifter, corporate ceo, presidential candidate.

      Do your best and don't be deterred by their opinions, and no matter how much they hate it, you will get the attention you deserve. As man driven and oriented as any profession would like to remain, it's not about what's between the legs of the person running things, it's how successful they can be in ensuring they are the best at what they do.

    • 4 years ago
  • Mafioso
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      Mafioso  
    • Kewal91 - How ironic that you use them getting breast implants and shaking their ass to get what they want as a way to point out that they somehow started sexism. Women getting bigger boobs and shaking their ass is an implement women use as a result of sexism. It doesn't speak to them being "duped" by their own wishes or wants, it speaks to how easily men can be manipulated with the use of sex and the promise of it. That doesn't speak low of women, it speaks of how men's minds have no control when it comes to pleasure.

      It's also ironic you share your sexist POV, to negate the theory that men perpetrate sexism, and then use the term, "Hillary Clithead". Funny yes, but also sexist because you meant it to be offensive rather than a humurous take on her name. I can tell that by all the other sexist bullshit you typed. Grow a real dick and set of cajones, because it's obvious the ones you have are just for decoration since you can't be man enough to admit that men being easily seduced isn't about women being sluts, it's about men being idiots.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • I think others are doing a pretty good job on doing that already. I intend to stick to the main topic which actually hasn't been discussed nearly as seriously as it should be. And in all honesty, there has been sexism geared towards her and there is no place for it in this media in this day and age either. But of course, those men don't meet with any sort of criticism from the hate Hillary Clinton crowd.

    • 4 years ago
  • BurningBush
  • JanforGore
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Like many women I have lived it firsthand, so I know how demeaning it can be... Just to make a long story short with one example: Years ago I worked for a large banking corporation and I sat in a row of cubicles and was the only woman in the entire row. My boss walks in one morning, walks by, taps the top of my cubicle and says, hi...I'm thinking he wants a meeting about the project I was doing... instead he says to me, 'can you get me a cup of coffee, sweetie?' I then stood up, smiled at him, and said, 'no, I can't, I'm busy working right now... but maybe one of the guys has some time to do it'. He then looked at me kind of funny, then said, 'I'll just have my secretary get it.' Now mind you, he had to pass the coffee pot on his way to his own office to ask his secretary to do it. And then there was the co-worker of mine who stated he only picked me to go on projects with him because I had 'nice legs'. I reported him for sure. And that doesn't even begin to describe what I went through at another place I worked at when I committed the greatest sin of having a baby and actually thinking my job would be waiting for me when I ended maternity leave.

      It is really still so pervasive in all walks of life and yet so ignored and trivialized. There should be no place for that kind of knuckle dragging intolerance in this country in this day and age. And it really is disturbing that more people aren't bothered by it.

    • 4 years ago
  • BurningBush
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      BurningBush  
    • It is a disgrace. However, I don't think Hillary lost this campaign because of sexism. I think she lost it because she had no clear, consistent message.

    • 4 years ago
  • clarity_kat
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      clarity_kat  
    • Wow... I'm embarrassed for these people, for the colleges they went to, their families, and our country for having this type of thing on TV.

      The best is they don't want to deal with the PMS and mood swings of a female while in power. Newsflash... they have proven guys have PMS and mood swings too.

      I feel sorry for the children they are teaching this ignorance to.

    • 4 years ago
  • Mafioso
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      Mafioso  
    • Amen, JanforGore. People's apathy towards some of this stuff is more appalling to me than the sexist comments themselves.

    • 4 years ago
  • Elligirl
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      Elligirl  
    • Great clips in this little compilation. When watching US tv I still can't believe how few female news anchors there are (other than weather girls). And for that fellow who says he isn't embarrassed that there aren't more women in Congress... shame on him!

    • 4 years ago
  • anglcazn
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      anglcazn  
    • People are stupid. They are sensationalist and love stereotypes. That's why only 30% of the American population attended at least one college course class. Including people who have dropped out.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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