The capitalist conspiracy in ya face

eureka Nythology. I agree that general awareness is so miniscule and also I might add, people so jaded that any "igniter" scenario is going to be a challenge from any perspective. I like Andrew Jackson's fervency and vigilant spirit knowing that they need to be "routed" out completely in revolutionary fashion, but aside from any initial shock value there has to be some sustainable effort behind it too...

Echoz, you may be wrong about evolution, but you sure as hell are right about this. I just don't know if there's anything we can really do about it, seeing as how content the American populace is.

In my personal oppinion, we need something to shock the shit out of the people, to finaly draw their attenton to these matters. Just like Bush used 9/11 to instigate a war with the middle east, we need an igniter to spark the powderkeg, metaphoricly. Ofcorse, it should be completely non-violent. I'm won't suggest killing any more people.

Andrew Kimbrell also edited a collection called "The Fatal Harvest Reader," a very good read to anyone interested in eating.

What kills me on the Monsanto issue is this resistance bit, because when asked about what they're gonna do about pest resistance, they say, "Don't worry, we have enough technology up our sleeves for the next twenty years." TWENTY YEARS? WTF?!?! I'll be 45 in 20 years, then what, huh? They don't give a SHIT about us, they only want profits, and that director of theirs, Hugh Grant (not the actor) is the biggest sleezeball I've ever seen.

The conspiracies are real to some extent, not all of it, not every spun out version of it, but enough of it to be seriously worried. I don't know, but I want to believe the best solution we have toward sustainable lives is to relocalize, balkanize and redraw the lines to incorporate watersheds and ecosystems, and model communities in different fashions depending on what you have where you are, bioregionalism like. Don't know if it would help, but its the best option I can see right now....

Unless there is a widespread and complete revolution, nothing will change. The bigwigs have made this world so airtight for them that even if we protest on massive scales, they wont have to do a thing. Our representatives are in their pockets, serving their own needs over the good of the people. We all know that the executive branch is a wash, and the judicial system is in bed with the top 2% conservative minority that owns these major businesses. "Get over it" Scalia says... We don't own this country anymore. So unless you're ready to put on that Guy Fawkes mask, you're just part of the problem.

the article also points out how *increasingly* there's going to be more and more pounds of herbicide in our food, how there's fraud in the testing, the harm to wildlife, and unknown and unintended effects which are known to increase risk to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and other serious health concerns:

"What you are seeing is not just a consolidation of seed companies, it’s really a consolidation of the entire food chain" - Robert Fraley, co-president of Monsanto's agricultural sector 1996, in the Farm Journal. Quoted in: Flint J. (1998) Agricultural industry giants moving towards genetic monopolism. Telepolis, Heise.

"People will have Roundup Ready soya whether they like it or not" - Ann Foster, spokesperson for Monsanto in Britian, as quoted in The Nation magazine from article "The Politics of Food" [67] by Maria Margaronis December 27, 1999 issue.

"This is basically chemical-promoting technology by chemical companies leading to more chemical pollution. It is a technology that eventually won't be sustainable" [68] - Andrew Kimbrell, executive director of the Center for Food Safety.

"That is what drives a lot of people crazy. The scope of the fraud, if you will--I know that's a harsh word--the scope of the fraud that's being sold to the American public about this technology is almost unprecedented" - Interview with Dr. Charles Benbrook on GMOs

"If Monsanto hid what it knew about its toxic pollution for decades, what is the company hiding from the public now? This question seems particularly important to us as this powerful company asks the world to trust it with a worldwide, high-stakes gamble with the environmental and human health consequences of its genetically modified foods" [69]. -Environmental Working Group

article goes on to say there is costly weed-resistance to the roundup ready herbicide that is only going to get worse and the FDA is literally sold out to nth degree:
"The ecological adaptations predicated by scientists have been occurring in the case of Roundup Ready crops for three or four years and appear to be accelerating". It concludes, "the average acre planted to glyphosate-tolerant crops is requiring more and more help from other herbicides, a trend with serious environmental and economic implications"

Remarkably "the USDA has announced it will completely eliminate the program [that tracks pesticide and herbicide use in agriculture] in 2008, due to budget cuts, and won't be collecting any data.... Benbrook finds the USDA's actions curious at a time when herbicide use on Roundup Ready crops has increased: 'The 2007 data would have shown an enormous increase in the pounds of herbicides applied on Roundup Ready crops, especially soybeans. The farm media has been full of stories over the past few years of the problems farmers are facing as weeds become resistant to Glyphosate and other herbicides. I find it curious that at the time of peak interest and need for solid information on pesticide use in soybeans that the Department of Agriculture has decided to stop collecting the data. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some quiet lobbying done by Monsanto to let the program lapse'" [37]. Interestingly "the Agriculture Department is looking into purchasing that information for use in policymaking, but the data would likely not be made public" [38]."

Interesting stuff about economic issues that everyone should watch it over and over again! However how many people know about it. I think this generation is somehow hypnotized by the lies. They adore the controlled media news everyday. Look at my issues here in San Francisco. Look some of the small clips the people that travel on this buses, totally submissive to a regime of acoustic oppression for (7) Years. That is a little bit too much and too sick! How are they going to ever wake up to the truth and act?

Round up ready? Do you mean that the plants are resistant to Round Up Weed be Gone?

We must never surrender.

i think subterfuge is the biggest problem with a government or anybody you can't trust! You never know what's a line, or what the truth really is until years later in some cases, as 9/11 was to me, or maybe when they declassify things...like 70 to 100 years later...isn't it obvious government is above the law it lords over us to keep us sane and docile like sheep while these damn corporations get away with bloody murder on a grand American scale. The American people must like to be abused or coddled. Pharmacuetical drugs of every kind will be increasingly polluting the waters we drink and the FDA won't make any testing required to that concern. meanwhile "round up-ready" genetically modified foods will be foisted on us in ever growing investments. And again the FDA won't do shit. Corporations get a free pass to every bs imaginable in the almighty name of science and world economic and political domination and guaranteed serfdom. It's all out now and I wonder if there's any reigning it in. Incredibly, no one is stopping it. They're going to give us gmo beets for our granulated sugar now...pretty soon we'll have to go out of our way to escape the increasing in ya face invasiveness that will continue to enslave us all...fascist style. And privately I worry that global warming is tooled against us.

I was reading this thing on wiki about the federal reserve and it was made to sound as though the government indeed does tell the fed reserve what to do, but everything else I've heard strikes utter contrast to that view. Some even complained that there was a cult of personality thing going on with Greenspan when he was in there or something. But if they can lie consistently right to your face using whatever you want to believe to beguile you, I'm afraid history will show it to be very effective tactic to complete subjugation. It's psychopathic and it works.

A sense of political and economic impotence pervades the country. The american experience in creating a different future together has been subjugated to individual cunning in the pursuit of wealth and power. We hold elections, knowing they are unlikely to bring the corporate state under popular control. There is considerable vigor at local levels, but it has not been translated into new vistas of social possibility or the political will to address our most inflexible challenges.

I beg every citizen of truth watch this video and all the problems will have a source:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LbiHpDnpoRc

It's more real than ethereal. Wake up. The bell is tolling for you America... Rage, rage against the machine and the dying of your light...before it's too late, and our children wake up in the day Presidents Jackson, Kennedy and Madison (among others I'm sure) have warned us about. Screw the globalists, the New World Order, NAFTA, the EU, the WTO and every other international suck up out there....