News and Politics | June 05, 2008 | 21 comments

Lesbian kiss at baseball game ignites Seattle debate

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As the Mariners played the Boston Red Sox on May 26, Sirbrina Guerrero and her date were approached in the third inning by an usher who told them their kissing was inappropriate, Guerrero said.

The usher, Guerrero said, told them he had received a complaint from a woman nearby who said that there were kids in the crowd of nearly 36,000 and that parents would have to explain why two women were kissing.

"I was really just shocked," Guerrero said. "Seattle is so gay-friendly. There was a couple like seven rows ahead making out. We were just showing affection."

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21 comments // Lesbian kiss at baseball game ignites Seattle debate

  • aliquid_
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      aliquid_  
    • Our country is not use to public affection unlike in other countries - And by the way, I wonder what kind of role will Sirbrina Guerrero land on a new show for this?

    • 4 years ago
  • flscary
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      flscary  
    • Why is it that if you don't agree with the gay lifestyle, you are automatically stamped as homophobic! Seems like that is kind of hypocritical, as we are expected to except your "in your face" activities and beliefs, but aren't allowed to have ours! As the term "phobic" implies fear, why not "Homodisgusted"! That would be much more accurate.

    • 4 years ago
  • jjeziorski
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      jjeziorski  
    • Frankly - I think this whole thing is garbage. Probably a publicity stunt - Sirbrina was a contestant on the current season of "A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila"

      And we all know how low MTV "people" will aim...

      She's probably just trying to get herself a new acting gig.

      Beyond that - baseball games are not a morally sound environment in which to expect church-like behavior.

      Stop taking your damn kids to such a vacuous money pit & ad-fest of a game, and then getting offended when one of the other 80,000 drunk-off-their-ass fans does something that "offends" your sensibilities.

      Want to teach your kids a lesson at a game? Explain to them that that guy hitting the ball with the stick makes more off all the endorsed products you're mindlessly consuming than the last three generations of your family combined.

      Sex will be the last thing on their minds, I assure you.

      Or - you can take out your frustrations on the lesbians, and let your kids grow up to be bigoted jackasses like you.

    • 4 years ago
  • michael9
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      michael9  
    • Every single on of you who said something to tear those two women down because a) they were lesbians, b) they were kissing, or a combination of the two I have the following to say: Pull your head out of your ass and grow up. First of all, what's the big deal if they are gay? Are they hurting anyone? No! They haven't done anything to harm a single living thing. If you're so fucking narrow minded that you're going to hate someone just because they have a different sexuality than your own, maybe you should go live in some third world country where you'd be exalted for that kind of prejudice. Now, this is partly because I have a high intolerance for Christianity (I admit it. Don't like it? Bite me.) and that's putting it kindly, but I will guarantee there is a nice sized percentage of gays and lesbians out there who follow that same fucked up, ignorant, arrogant, narrow-minded, and hypocritical religion. What do you have to say to that? Secondly, WHO THE FUCK CARES IF THEY KISS IN PUBLIC?! Now, don't get me wrong. I don't really want to be doing whatever business I have to do and have some couple lip-locked for five minutes standing next to me like they were in the bedroom on a Saturday night, no. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with kissing your date, fiance, husband, lover, whatever they might be, in public. There's nothing wrong with it. NOTHING! If people want to show affection to each other, or 'PDA' as the ignorant fucks who want to live in their happily bigoted life have labeled it, that's fine. If you don't want to see it, why the hell are you watching? Don't bitch about it if you can look the other way! Finally, last but far from least, STOP SHIELDING YOUR FUCKING KIDS! I swear if I had my way so many parents would be dead right now, because they want to keep their kids just as ignorant as themselves for as long as possible until their kids are convinced that being ignorant and narrow-minded and prejudiced is the proper way to do things in this country. If your kid wants to know why two women are kissing, but you don't want to explain to them what homosexuality is yet, then make something up, but don't you dare lie to their face. Just say something like 'Those ladies are really good friends, kiddo.' Even though what you should say is something along the lines of 'Those ladies are homosexuals, or lesbians, which means instead of liking guys, they like other girls.' If your kid has more questions just and you don't feel like getting into it because you're at the baseball game say 'I'll tell you later.' By the time you get home, your kid will have forgotten it ever happened. But whatever you do, STOP SHIELDING YOUR FUCKING KIDS! I love how parents all over this country lie to their kids' faces and then wonder why their kids don't trust them when they get older.

    • 4 years ago
  • bluballbuster
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      bluballbuster  
    • Uh, Neghie it doesn't matter cause you are right, I don't know you and I only responded to the writing on the wall. Don't expect me to get you now and grow up and don't try to get your other friends to back you on this(I don't know Pulsaf and I was subscribing to your retarded comment). How was I to know that you're sooo sarcastic, you're just soo with-it and with anything you say,everyone should know what you really mean cause your the vanacular poet of expression and coolness right? Wrong, next time be a bit more sensitive on topics like this and you won't get a responce like the one I sent you.
      And For the record, theres not a racist bone on me but sometimes the only way to fight ignorance, is to bite ignorance right on it's ass. When I read your comment, I wasn't impressed, I was how ever moved to send you a little mirror image of how you came off to a total stanger. Seriously, read it back to your self without your "rosed-tinted sarcasm" and tell me you don't sound like a fuck head!

    • 4 years ago
  • michael9
  • Neghie
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      Neghie  
    • Uh...apparently, bluballbuster, you don't know me and plusaf, check out my posting history. I am one of the most sarcastic people you will ever meet and anyone that knows me on this site knows I was being just that...sarcastic. Sometimes I don't say the obvious, like...I'm joking, and I guess my sarcasm this time didn't go over well. I thought my going on about this is America would do it.

      I don't carry around picket signs but I will join a parade or a protest or two. I am one of the biggest advocates for gay rights and I usually argue against people who really have senitments like the one I tried to pass off as sarcasm. No need to preach to me about being black and ignorant because I am only one of those. I apologize to anyone who may have been offended by my comments. Sometimes I don't know where to draw the line, but like I said, if you know me, you know where I stand. I will never stand on the side that keeps a group of people from their equal rights. What I'm not for, is PDA. Public displays of affection makes me sick.

    • 4 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • The reason adult men don't want to see other men making out in public is because they are afraid they might get a woody and that would be embarrassing to their fragile macho egos.

      It stands to reason then that women might fear the same things. They might be seduced by the lure of the pleasure.

    • 4 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • jubal:

      Thank you Plusaf, we may be comrades yet.

      We don't always agree on things, but I am glad your on the team. You bring a lot of passion to the forum.

    • 4 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • It goes on to say that:

      Specifically, the present study was designed to investigate whether homophobic men show more sexual arousal to homosexual cues than nonhomophobic men as suggested by psychoanalytic theory. . . .

      The results of this study indicate that individuals who score in the homophobic range and admit negative affect toward homosexuality demonstrate significant sexual arousal to male homosexual erotic stimuli. These individuals were selected on the basis of their report of having only heterosexual arousal and experiences. Furthermore, their ratings of erection and arousal to homosexual stimuli were low and not significantly different from nonhomophobic men who demonstrated no significant increase in penile response to homosexual stimuli. These data are consistent with response discordance where verbal judgments are not consistent with physiological reactivity, as in the case of homophobic individuals viewing homosexual stimuli. Lang (1994 ) has noted that the most dramatic response discordance occurs with reports of feeling and physiologic responses. Another possible explanation is found in various psychoanalytic theories, which have generally explained homophobia as a threat to an individual's own homosexual impulses causing repression, denial, or reaction formation (or all three; West, 1977 ). Generally, these varied explanations conceive of homophobia as one type of latent homosexuality where persons either are unaware of or deny their homosexual urges. These data are consistent with these notions.

    • 4 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
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    • Hostility and discrimination against homosexual individuals are well-established facts. On occasion, these negative attitudes lead to hostile verbal and physical acts against gay individuals with little apparent motivation except a strong dislike. In fact, more than 90% of gay men and lesbians report being targets of verbal abuse or threats, and more than one-third report being survivors of violence related to their homosexuality. Although negative attitudes and behaviors toward gay individuals have been assumed to be associated with rigid moralistic beliefs, sexual ignorance, and fear of homosexuality, the etiology of these attitudes and behaviors remains a puzzle. Weinberg ( 1972 ) labeled these attitudes and behaviors homophobia, which he defined as the dread of being in close quarters with homosexual men and women as well as irrational fear, hatred, and intolerance by heterosexual individuals of homosexual men and women. . . .

    • 4 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • Yap. I agree that a parent should tell their kids about sex as early as possible or someone will do it for them and it won't wait until 4th or whatever grade they're doing it now. Someone will tell them and it just might not be a kid telling them.

      Creepy?

      You bet it is...this world is just that.

    • 4 years ago
  • amstreater
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      amstreater  
    • I agree with J_Jammer. Showing affection, holding hands, hugging, maybe even a peck on the cheek or lips, that's fine. But full on making out, c'mon, get a room!

      But then again, parents need to stop being so protective. They can't hide the realities of the world from their kids forever. Better to just explain things as early as possible, as and when they come up. Sex is a very important part of life; many things in the world are inevitable and parents should realise that their kids are going to find about these things one day. As one of my university lecturers once said: "If you don't want to have to deal with sex [...] you shouldn't have chosen... life."

    • 4 years ago
  • jubal
  • Varex_Sythe
  • localsly
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • Gay or straight I don't care, I don't want to see people mauling each other. If they want to do that, that's fine but go somewhere else. I don't get why people think that making out is what anyone else wants to see.

      I don't think people love one another when they make out in public. I think they are whoring themselves and it's gross.

    • 4 years ago
  • jubal
  • shelchak
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      shelchak  
    • Good grief.

      Shame on those bigots, too busy meddling in what is none of their business (I suppose they righteously thought they were 'doing God's work...'), and shame on that usher for pandering to their ugliness.

    • 4 years ago
  • Neghie
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      Neghie  
    • Yeah well, missy. This is America! The last I checked, this is a free country...sometimes. You have no right to show your affections with your lesbian lover in front of impressionable kids. I mean, what kind of message do you think that kind of PDA is sending? I'll tell you what! It says it's okay to be gay...and we all know, that's not okay.

    • 4 years ago
  • bluballbuster
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      bluballbuster  
    • Neghie:

      Neghie or what ever the fuck your name is..you are an ignorant bitch. There was a time when blacks weren't allowed to drink from public fountains and go to certain places labeled "White Only!" Get a clue "home gir"(thrown in for added effect) and get with the times...it's extreme discrimination, so why didn't that bitch with child complain about the other couple, the Str8 couple up front making out, Huh! If it's not okay in your book to be gay, well then it's not okay for you and only you to be "black" in my world...

    • 4 years ago
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