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Eric Sottas, director of the International Organisation against Torture sees it as a a political gesture. “The US has always clearly shown its opposition to the Council. This is a slightly more public way of putting pressure on it in order to raise the stakes. What is more the Bush dynasty is coming to the end of its mandate,” he said. “It reminds me of the time when the Nixon administration, which backed Pinochet in Chile, chastized the UN for criticising the Chilean dictator. But when Carter was elected in 1977, the American government took the floor at the Human Rights Commission to ask forgiveness. After a presidency like that of Bush, you can expect some important changes in US policy on human right.”
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  • albey77
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      albey77  
    • This is not good, as the World will now see the U.S. Government as a Super Coward! Afraid to stand for the Truth, and to Imagine the U.S. claims to the the ethical and logical Super power. Not Anymore... World Service Authority here we come...

    • 3 years ago
  • PlatoTacius
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      PlatoTacius  
    • Why not create a new international council, one that is based on openess and accountability of truth, honesty, and justice, with a high moral standard that assures equality, even for the average person, even for the poorest of the poor...

      At which point do we begin to get a handle on the abuses against humanity on an international scale..? Let's face it, with the financial situation we're in right now, we aren't in any position to use our financial influence as a persuasive tool. But, does that mean we have to use our military might as the persuasive tool or just do nothing at all..?

      I'm sick of hidden agendas...

    • 3 years ago
  • eldamon
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • eldamon:

      Ooooo, that stings bad. Yeah, I guess it's easy to be all raw raw about human rights nowadays. I guess people don't know the history of the CIA very well, the U.S. is arguably a bigger violator than China and has been for a long time.

    • 3 years ago
  • kreativeanarkee
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      kreativeanarkee  
    • this just further proves what Bush's administration is all about, and it makes me glad that this shit is almost over! I just hope we don't have part 2 of this come november!

    • 3 years ago
  • philbangs
  • Ricky84
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      Ricky84  
    • I’m sorry but you can’t honestly “mute” a point with a reference to Iraq. Seriously what are we dueling sorcerers? Is the Human Rights Council Hogwarts and George Dubya the evil Lord Voldermort? This holy worship of a word or title does nothing to properly address what transpired. You cannot simply argue that the US distancing itself from the Human Rights Council automatically equals something bad.

      So I guess denouncing the Patriot Act or Homeland security is wrong too because those things sound pretty darn swell right? Wrong!

      The “chain of command” is also a horrible title to impose on American Democracy. The president serves the people and so do congress and the house. However within the UN the political appointees serve at the pleasure of the president or leading official and not the people. If the Human Rights Council had any sense it would be staffed by the actual victims of human rights atrocities and not political appointees who do not serve the people.

      Dgold was exactly right. People do need to read, study and do their homework. If the American people kept up with current events we would of never elected Bush, went to war or allowed our lawful freedoms to be removed.

    • 3 years ago
  • Conniepae
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      Conniepae  
    • This would be sad, if it wasn't one of many. But, it's added to a long list of things that seem to be so un-American. How is Congress letting this go on? Are they really just part of the problem? If they aren't part of the problem, they better become part of the solution.

      What's an American to do? We don't agree with the direction of the country? We use machines to elect our leaders on machines that have been proven hackable. Our vote count has been outsourced. We can't even trust our elections.

      SAD, SAD, SAD!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • Harleyd050
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      Harleyd050  
    • Human Rights Council what a joke, they are the true abusers of human rights. they turn there heads to what they do to the people in there countries (Burma, Africa etc etc oh yes I forgot CHINA , They love to blame America and isreal but thet are the true disease that keeps heaven and hell busy.

    • 3 years ago
  • johnmcstupid
  • PlatoTacius
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      PlatoTacius  
    • mjsmith, Ricky, and dgold, it's not America that any of us are complaining about. It's only this Bush administration. I agree with you that America has done wonders for human rights in America, but those who did the most, in recent history, were democrats; the Kennedys, LBJ, and MLK, who were fought tooth and nail by the republicans. Three of them died for it.

      If you want to talk about genocide, killing of civilians, torture, enforced disappearances, etc., then what do you call the war in Iraq? The chain of command still starts at the top, with Bush, that makes him responsible. If he, or any of his cronies, was inclined to do anything to further human rights, then they, themselves, would be accountable and be in a position to hold others accoutable. So, your point is mute...

      I was only stating earlier that the 'so called' leaders of this great nation, and I believe it is great, should desire to reform the inconsistencies of these negative forces and bad practices among themselves and other countries. But, it's pretty difficult to hold anyone else accountable when our leaders are setting a bad example...that would be the erroneous George W. Bush...

      So, try as you may to defend GWB, I'm not buying your profuse mound of B.S....and I can't wait to see him and the republicans out of office...

    • 3 years ago
  • mjsmith11
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      mjsmith11  
    • Like I asked all of you before... "Which country is the world has done more for the good of Human Rights than the United States of America?" The Answer is "NONE!" The United States has done more for the benefit of Human Rights than any other nation ever. So Vierotchka, PlatoTacius, ILiveonaClock, CISCO6060, riverdeer, J_Jammer, AntiFacistCanuck, notonourwatch, keithponder, Marilynn_Murray, uroborus8, PoisonTheMonkey, and any other person who feels that the USA is against human rights, YOU ARE WRONG!

    • 3 years ago
  • Ricky84
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      Ricky84  
    • You’re right on target Dgold.

      I took this off the UN website

      “A commission of inquiry appointed by the UN found in early 2005 that the Sudanese Government had not pursued a policy of genocide, but that its forces and the Janjaweed had “conducted indiscriminate attacks, including killing of civilians, torture, enforced disappearances, destruction of villages, rape and other forms of sexual violence, pillaging and forced displacement.”

      You know that sounds a lot like genocide to me. So while I don’t necessarily agree with the actions of the Bush administration I can absolutely say that the UN can kiss my multiracial ass.

    • 3 years ago
  • mjsmith11
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      mjsmith11  
    • dgold0101

      Thank you. I agree with what you said. I am a little more moderate than liberal in my political views. You are right about people voting G.O.P. because the democrat part has been hijacked by people with such anti-American views.

    • 3 years ago
  • AnemicElitist
  • dgold0101
  • AnsonKindred
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      AnsonKindred  
    • dgold0101:

      Thank you for writing this. I couldn't believe the number of completely uninformed comments on this article. I really wish the people of the internet would take 3 seconds out of their hectic lives and visit wikipedia or google or god forbid an actual news website and gain some small amount of knowledge on a subject before attempting to pass judgement on it. Or better yet just don't pass judgement on something you don't understand.

      I think bush and 90% of the rest of the American government are morons as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean every single thing they do is instantly evil and backwards. Sometimes the government is just doing it's damn job. It's called politics.

    • 3 years ago
  • mjsmith11
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      mjsmith11  
    • I agree with Emperor. The United States leads the way for human rights in this world. To all of the people who think otherwise, learn the history of this planet. People were really considered underneath the government, until the United States formed a Government Of, For, and By the People. It was the United States that stood up to world tyranny as the "Arsenal of Democracy". I guess other countries feel the need t insult the United Sates of America as a way making up for there issues. Name one country that has done more for Human Rights on this planet ever than the United States of America has.

    • 3 years ago
  • AnemicElitist
  • mjsmith11
  • AnemicElitist
  • dkl165
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      dkl165  
    • mjsmith11:

      The main point of the article was to criticize the Bush adminstration, not the United States as a whole.

      You are going off on a tangent.

      The United States has done alot for Human Rights. Bush has not. Infact, any forward impetus as been put in reverse. That is all the article is trying to demonstate.

    • 3 years ago
  • PlatoTacius
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      PlatoTacius  
    • Leave it to this administration to thoughtlessly throw the baby out with the bathwater, instead of trying to create some reform in this world. Oh, that's right, reform isn't in their vocabulary...come to think of it, neither is accountability or responsibility or a whole slew of other reasonable terms and practices... profitable politics only...as usual...

    • 3 years ago
  • Emperor
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      Emperor  
    • if you think America is so bad, why don't you move to the middle-east or Africa.

      Israel is the only place that gives essential human rights to its citizens and even some non citizens.

      Why do middle-easten GAYS flock to Israel for assylum??http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/05/MNG5LNUTQG1.DTL

      What other nation in the area has women in the hightst part of govt??
      [[ Tzipi Livni ]]

      there are many other examples. the nation running the UNHR are doing the exact opposite.

    • 3 years ago
  • CISCO6060
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      CISCO6060  
    • Oh right about now we need Eleanor Roosevelt who helped the great effort of human rights! she once said: Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. We are all the ideas of a better and bright future! here here to PROGRESS!
      CHEERS

    • 3 years ago
  • ILiveonaClock
  • chris50
  • ascendtoasgard
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      ascendtoasgard  
    • I don't understand how this administration is just fine with disappointing citizens in the U.S. and all over the world over, over and over again. Another notch in the belt.

    • 3 years ago
  • AnemicElitist
  • riverdeer
  • J_Jammer
  • diode
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      diode  
    • if you take a look at the other countries on the list of that council you will see we are far from the evil americans the world seems to think we are when half the countries on that council have been committing infractions for decades

    • 3 years ago
  • AnemicElitist
  • AntiFacistCanuck
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      AntiFacistCanuck  
    • The USA being one of the biggest abusers of human rights on the planet is understandably distancing itself from the Human Rights Council, has Israel quit the council already or is it about to do so soon? It must be quite embarrassing to be representative of either of these countries at that council.

      FYI Emperor: so those countries see human rights abuses in Israel, big deal anybody who can read a newspaper or watch a television knows that. And I also take issue with your statement to the effect those countries hate Israel, they probably don't it just looks that way. Do you know the word Apartheid? In the world today apartheid is generally spoken of as something that is happening in Israel. It started in South Africa and was transplanted to Israel, what was given in exchange I don't know but it could not have been worth it. Just look at the mess!

      I know that just cause the USA looks like it is turning into an Orwellian police state does not mean the citizens are all for it, quite the contrary I am happy to note, the majority of USAn's think and feel much as I do, they are absolutely opposed to the present course their country is on and find the present administration to be objectionably criminal. The majority of people in the USA do not hate the world. It just looks that way, judging by the actions of their government anyway.

    • 3 years ago
  • Emperor
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      Emperor  
    • AntiFacistCanuck:

      if you think America is so bad, why don't you move to the middle-east or Africa.

      Israel is the only place that gives essential human rights to its citizens and even some non citizens.

      Why do middle-easten GAYS flock to Israel for assylum??http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/05/MNG5LNUTQG1.DTL

      What other nation in the area has women in the hightst part of govt??
      [[ Tzipi Livni ]]

      there are many other examples. the nation running the UNHR are doing the exact opposite.

    • 3 years ago
  • AnemicElitist
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      AnemicElitist  
    • AntiFacistCanuck:

      Emperor, many people don't move because they can't afford to, or have family and friends in the U.S. that they do not wish to lose. Or, simply, they want to stay here and fight this abundant injustice.

      And yes, Israel is abso-fucking-lutely wonderful. Wonderful for all of the Palestinians who were forced to leave their homes, lives and land in order for Israel to exist.

    • 3 years ago
  • notonourwatch
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      notonourwatch  
    • Well, one can say that Bush and company are consistent in their lack of concern for humanity from influencing the lie that Global Warming is not a major planetary issue, to attacking a country that was not a threat to us, to ignoring the Geneva Conventions and promoting torture, to removing rights to legal access by individuals, to deregulating industries that pollute or that lend, to cordoning off and sidelining those of us that protest their policies. Very consistent, in deed. And in this light, it makes sense for this administration to not support human rights in any way - regardless, what 'we the people' think about it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Emperor
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      Emperor  
    • you guys aren't even looking at the big picture. Guess who rubs the Human rights council.

      Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Zimbabwe and Libya.

      What kind of council is that?? What do they all have in common??? THEY ALL HATE ISRAEL. These are the worst human rights abusers out there.

    • 3 years ago
  • primusluta
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      primusluta  
    • The Human Rights Council refused to observe any market-based solutions to the problem. How can we affectively treat all human beings equally if we cannot agree how they should be turned into profits.

    • 3 years ago
  • Dmitri_Molotov
  • phillyharper
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      phillyharper  
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    • It isn't necessarily true that they have totally quit the U.N Human Rights Council, but they have made it clear that they will now distance themselves from it.

      They stated that they will now only take part when there are "matters of deep national interest" and that they will now be taking a more "reserved approach".

      State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said that the decision was made by Condoleeza Rice and described the council as having a "rather pathetic record".

      "Instead of focusing on some of the real and deep human rights issues around the world, it has really turned into a forum that seems to be almost solely focused on bashing Israel."

      What do you make of McCormack's comments?

    • 3 years ago
  • ssppeencceerr
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      ssppeencceerr  
    • Someone commented that the HRC member states are some of the most egregious abusers of human rights in the world. Whoever you are, you are absolutely correct. But check it, I was talking to my cabbie(cab driver) one night about the current state of the world and he made some of the most eloquent and insightful points i've ever heard. He likened the US and other "egregious H.R. abusers" to highschool bullies. The US is probably the most influential nation on the planet today. Other nations look to our country for what to do next. There have been many good things that previous administrations have contributed to the WORLD. However, in order to remain at the top, you've gotta be a bully somewhere along the line. Now here's where i hope you will continue to read: Despite my cabbies accurate portrayal(which i haven't relayed that well) of US policy I DO NOT AGREE THAT THIS IS HOW WE SHOULD ACT!!
      I guess I'm kind of a wanna be hippy in that I think we should just treat each other with respect and empathy.
      i'm tired of typing.

    • 3 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • justher
  • patriotgames1
  • cerealforeal
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      cerealforeal  
    • Oh how I hope there is a calm during November so the elections go as planned... I hate to have to say that Obama is our last chance in returning our human rights and liberties.

    • 3 years ago
  • tomofnorthcal
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      tomofnorthcal  
    • More evidence of Bush Admin evil and that they have again, proven to be the anti-christs. Somewhere another baby angel is crying and somewhere another socialist is saying, "I told you so!"

    • 3 years ago
  • uroborus8
  • PoisonTheMonkey
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      PoisonTheMonkey  
    • Our government can't possibly spin itself as compassionate Christian anymore, or whatever they're calling themselves now. They've been torturing people, abusing privacy rights, jailing children and lying to start wars, and now they go public with their lack of caring about human rights. Despicable.

    • 3 years ago
  • huntre
  • guntown_kid82
  • bodhisalva
  • Eirianallt
  • cubbingabout
  • debbieclarke
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      debbieclarke  
    • Trouble is will it get cleared up, Think you assume Obama is going to win but i bet he doesnt, The powers that be prefer Mcain, more maleable

    • 3 years ago
  • jawnybnsc
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      jawnybnsc  
    • Of course the fact that the Human Rights Council's member states are some of the most egregious abusers of human rights in the world makes no difference . . . right? This has far less to do with the Bush Administration and far more to do with the absolute corruption and moral bankruptcy of the United Nations.

    • 3 years ago
  • cubbingabout
  • jubal
  • bodhisalva
  • Vierotchka
  • OneLuv
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      OneLuv  
    • jawnybnsc:

      You're right...the UN is a JOKE (and it's NOT very funny, either)...it's great how the United Nations sits around and "monitors" all the humanitarian crises that occur all over the world, but they don't do SHIT to intervene...they quite simple just DON'T DO SHIT!!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • dkl165
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      dkl165  
    • jawnybnsc:

      What are you talking about dude? You are not making any sense. Even if your bogus statement was true, bad behaviour does not excuse bad behaviour. I don't even see how this defends Bush in the slightest manner, if that is what you were attempting to do?

    • 3 years ago
  • shbhanda
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      shbhanda  
    • jawnybnsc:

      people should not lump all of the u.n.'s activities into one category. it has a lot of different programs, some of which work and help lots of people some of which like the security council and human rights council have no teeth. largely because china and russia are members and they believe in a country's right to do whatever they want to its people which sort of defeats the purpose of human rights in the first place.

    • 3 years ago
  • Conniepae
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      Conniepae  
    • jawnybnsc:

      Many times I have heard people say, 'if you don't like it leave'. I think if you guys want to destroy it, you should leave! Why should we let the 'few' ruin our country?

      Dick Cheney's answer to the concerns of the 'many', 'so'. Wrong answer! It's time you guys get some morals. If it has to be by a world court, it's okay! We have watched our jobs be outsourced, we can watch their punishment be outsourced.

      Maybe they can go to jail in one of the facilities they have set up in other parts of the world to serve their time. Our tax dollars paid for it. Our tax dollars at work.

    • 3 years ago
  • samanthadian
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      samanthadian  
    • WHAT?! This is really going out with a bang. Jon Stewart joked early on this year that the Bush administration will royally screw this country up in the last year just for sh**s and giggles. I really think he hit the nail on the head.

    • 3 years ago
  • poohkits
  • Stradius
  • merasyad
  • shelchak
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