Will Clinton supporters back Obama?

My husband and I are lifelong dems in our late 40's and both of us will vote for McCain this year. We can't find ONE SINGLE REASON to vote FOR Obama, but have countless reasons not to. There's nothing he can do or say that will get our votes. It's about associations, character, judgment, experience. This has nothing to do with anger or race. He has a one sheet resume and 20 sheets of associations with suspicious and corrupt individuals. How can anyone possibly think there's any reason to vote for him?:

As a die-hard Democrat, I thought I'd be able to transfer my allegiance to Obama, but I find myself uneasy at the prospect of voting for him. I am a second-wave feminist, but that's not why I was for Hillary. I honestly thought she was the best person for the job. She inspired confidence; Obama has yet to prove that there is anything behind his words, eloquent though they may be.

I don't really think that it matters how we vote because Obama is not going to win, no matter what. It's unfortunate that the candidate who DID have a shot at defeating McCain isn't going to get the nomination. I think the DNC has been fooling itself on this one.

I think I will just write in Hillary Clinton and see what happens. I definately don't want to vote for those two baboons!

I FIND IT MOST PRESUMPTIOUS THAT THE DNC, THE MEDIA AND OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE SO SURE THAT HILLARY SUPPORTERS WILL TAKE THIS OBVIOUS "SELECTION", NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH "ELECTION" WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN HANDLED LIKE CHILD'S PLAY. THE CANDIDATE OF CHOICE, MR. N'OBAMA, IS AS SHREWD AND CUNNING AS HIS STAFF AND THE PEOPLE WHO BACK HIM. HOWEVER, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE U.S. WHO STILL HOLD SOME THINGS SACRED AND WHO MAINTAIN A STANDARD OF VALUES THAT GOVERN THEM, AS WELL AS THEIR VOTE. I AM ONE OF THE 18 MILLION WHO SAW THE CREDENTIALS, COURAGE AND CARING SPIRIT OF SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON AND I WILL NOT...I SHALL NOT...I CANNOT BE SO CARELESS AS TO CAST MY VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO, IN MY OPINION, DOES NOT HAVE THE SKILLS, THE EXPERIENCE, NOR THE "HONEST" CREDENTIALS I DEEM PERTINENT TO THE TASK AT HAND. I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN, AND PROUD OF IT, BUT I AM NO FOOL, CANNOT BE FOOLED, AND WILL NOT VOTE LIKE A FOOL IN NOVEMBER! NOBAMA SAID, "GET OVER IT, SWEETIE," BUT I SAY, "I WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!"....AND YOU CAN TAKE THIS TO THE BANK!

Wow, by now I don't exactly know what to say. The fact that someone who covers politics in the media and on the Internet has been so unaware of the gravity of this movement within the Democratic party is almost mind boggling.

The rejection of BHO by a certain portion of the party started months ago. And sure, it may have started with women of a certain age, that were both Hillary supporters and immune to whatever it is some people see in Obama, reacting to the absurdness of it all.

Although we were all excited to see a fresh face in the party hopefuls, after the first few debates it was clear to us he was not ready to be taken seriously as a candidate. Add to that a creepy cultist logo, music videos as policy, thrills going up the media's legs and a online army of vile spewing thugs, and well we started to get scared.

We began gravitating towards any voice of reason in the ever darkening wilderness that was the Internet. And after a while, we began finding others who felt exactly as we did. But it wasn't just women and it wasn't just older voters. It wasn't just white voters. No, as far as we are concerned, it was anyone who followed politics that had any sense at all.

Are we angry about the way Hillary and her supporters were treated. Yes. Is that why we will not vote for Obama. NO.

Let me clue you in. I could have lived with any of the primary candidates accept Obama and Fred Thompson. What do they have in common? Neither one knows what the heck they're doing running for the most powerful office on earth.

We've had almost eight years of a puppet presidency and I'm not in the mood for eight more. So, not only will I be happy to vote for an experienced, rational thinking, if not always quite as liberal as I would like, John McCain, but I will do everything I can to see he is elected. I will also leave the Democratic Party after the convention if said party does not come to it's senses and nominate a real candidate.

I hope this helps you understand that when we say no, we really, really mean no.

your not fooling anyone whoever keeps getting new log in names to post their bs. get a life and get over it

lol , most of these people that have commented on this, must of just signed up because its the only story they have ever commented on.. too funny we are not stupid we can see your commenting history.
i'm rollin on my floor laughing, thanks for the comedy

Only if he choses Hillary as the Vice-President--if he doesn't need Hillary (as we ardently believe our country does) then he doesn't need us!

In a word: No.

I cannot support a candidate that flip-flops on every campaign promise, has 20 years of crooked, nefarious and divisive associations he has yet to explain and certainly cannot justify. He has advantaged himself by p[laying the race card and is by far the weaker candidate.

When HGillary Clinton legitimately won this thing by every sensible metric and yet Dean, Pelosi and Co. throw fair reflection out the window to hold on to their littie feifdom, what is apparent to me, and many other men and women I know, is that they fear Hillary would actually clean house in D.C. and their little party would be over.

I have hot news for you, Ms. Traister, their party will be over anyway because we will vote as many of those out who endorsed the fraud -- just as we will vote for anyone instead of him.

Rebecca, The REASON that people are so angered when you state that "they will come around in November" is because it is a complete INSULT to their INTELLIGENCE. Example: You are building a home and the builder that you choose has been building homes for over 35 years, but you are told he is NOT going to build your house instead the builder YOUR getting has been watching people build homes for about 8 yrs. But, you will get over it, after the house is built??? That IS of course if it dosen't fall down on your head! WE did not vote for Hillary Clinton because she IS a woman, nor did WE vote for Hillary because she IS a Democrat. WE voted for her because WE trusted her AND we KNOW that she CAN do the job. Millions of us have seen MANY candidates, AND Presidents AND we KNOW they ALL stretch the truth, thus, the ONLY way to KNOW what they are REALLY about is what they have DONE not what they "say" they WILL DO! Neither of the Clinton's NEEDED this campaign, they have been there, done that, and lord knows they do not need the money! What they WANTED was the CHANCE to come back and turn around a horrible mess left after two terms of another President who had "ideas" but NO EXPERIENCE. Did the Clinton's need to be trashed morning, noon, and night...we KNOW the answer. But what MILLIONS of US knew is that We trusted Bill Clinton and he came through, WE trusted Hillary Clinton and she came through. So, at a time when we are at our LOWEST in HISTORY, who should take over and try to get us back on track, the ANSWER is OBVIOUS, the ONES who KNOW HOW. So, many have tried just out of fairness to see some way, ANY way to understand how the Obama's could help this Country, and many of us can ONLY look at his past and in it we find nothing but a lack luster political career, and HORRIBLE JUDGEMENTS and even WORSE ASSOCIATIONS. We are NOT talking about a candidate that is equal, he does not even come close to anything that Hillary Clinton has achieved over the past 35 years. For me, I cannot understand on even a character level how two adults (Michele and Barac Obama) can stand in front of the American people and "claim" to be uniters, when they USED RACE at every turn in this campaign. They Used it to gain the black vote, they used it to gain the white guilt vote, and they used it to gain the sympathy vote, all the while they were TRASHING one of our former Presidents. Uniters? I just have one question, do YOU believe children are born racist? I will tell you, they are not, they LEARN RACISM, just like the Obama children when they were taken by two adults to listen to Wright's sermons. And speak of Audacity, Pelosi has the audacity to state "there are things my pastor has said that I disagree with" who is she kidding? What moron could even fathom that statement as an analogy? As a white woman, if I were in a church and the pastor stated that all Blacks were Skunks of the earth, and Goddam America, it would only take ME about 5 minutes to find the DOOR! Yet these two supposed PATRIOTIC ADULTS would sit there for 20 years and we are to believe they KNEW nothing? And did not AGREE with what was being said? I guess they only hoped that people were that stupid, and it appears that Many are! But then they are probably some of the SAME people who bought into these lies eight years ago. Finally, in closing all I can say is that WE THE PEOPLE are sickened by the very thought that this caliber of person MAY be permitted to represent OUR Country. Thank you for taking the time to read my comment.

Obama is inexperienced and appears to care more about his positioning for political expediency rather than the people.

His thin legislative record shows he is very similar to Bush, and that's the last thing we need right now. When Bush came to office we had a budget surplus, peace, all in all things were pretty good. What Bush has done to this country is irresponsible.

So, why do I consider Obama more of the same? Well, how could any responsible politician vote for the 2005 Bush/Cheney Energy Bill--a bill that throws billions at big oil and is bad for global warming and the environment? How could any responsible politician vote for legislation that makes it difficult for the average joe who is injured by a defective product to sue the company that produced the defective product? How could any responsible politician vote 'present' on bills to protect school children from guns and pornography? How could any responsible politician vote 'present' on a bill that gives rape vicitims the right to petition the court to have the records sealed? How could any responsible politician take credit for legislation they had nothing to do with? How could any responsible politician support unConstitutional disenfranchisement of voters in the primary and warrantless spying on the American people in FISA? How could you EVER expect me to vote Obama? I've voted Democrat for over 30 years. Not this time.

POWER TO THE PUMAS

I’m not having a temper tantrum.
My conscience won’t let me vote for Barack Obama – ever.
If we just go along with this new method of selecting a nominee (the press and the DNC decide which candidate they want) it could have irreversible consequences. Especially since Obama is backing away from campaign finance reform. How could we ever get our voice back if the big money that owns the big media now owns the election process?

If they can prop up a candidate with one year of experience in the Senate; a candidate who offers his childhood experience in Indonesia as his “foreign policy experience”; a candidate who’s running on his ability to unite – but he has never actually done any uniting; and some unexplained vision of CHANGE – and he can win the nomination over someone with the incredible qualifications that Hillary Clinton has – we are in huge trouble.
We can get through four years of a John McCain presidency if we have a strong, Democratically-controlled Congress. I’m going to put all of my effort and money towards that goal.

Hi,

I was a big supporter of Hillary. I have already purchased two McCain stickers, and I will not vote for that man who was forced down our throats. My parents weren't going to vote at all, but now have decided to vote for McCain to ensure Obama doesn't get the nomination. We have always voted Democratic. I voted for Gore, Kerry and Bob Casey, but I refuse to vote for someone who is unqualifed and who has a very troubling background. His assoctions with terrorists (the Weather Underground) are the most troubling. He is also a very dishonest person and I don't trust him. I enjoy McCain's attacks against Obama. I certainly will not unite behind this man. This primary season was unlike any other primary season in history. Therefore, I don't think you can compare previous primary seasons with this one. You can't assume most of the Hillary supporters will eventually unite behind Obama based on past primary seasons.

I'm another HRC supporter who will not vote for Obama. Avote for Obama is a vote for hot-or-not-style politics, selective disenfranchisement, elitism, empty rhetoric, zero political courage, empty rhetoric, and the politics of guilt.

The popularity of Obama makes me fear for American democracy.

Be careful of write-in votes. For example, in Virginia only a small % of write-ins will actually count and will be discarted. Out of all those votes 2/3rds will be handed over to Obama. Many states have different policies so you MAY be casting a vote for Obama in any event. In several states write-ins are not permitted. It won't work for this election with changing laws?

I am not voting in protest, but otherwise as stated above, making the most intelligent choice I can with the CHOICES available to me. I do believe in Democracy and voting.

Sen. Clinton's supporters will not vote for Sen. Obama.

This is not a matter of TEMPERS cooling down.

We base our decision on cool-headed review of Obama's character and experience woes and the unjust treatment of the most electable choice between the two, Sen. Clinton.

We don't vote for McCain in her name--but we vote because a vote for the other is just unfathomable.

Rebecca - read this and listen. We are not just "angry". We are appalled at the farce of an elction the primary season was. I am 44 years old, and was never much interested in politics. So, you know, when all this primary stuff started a year ago, I really didn’t have much interest in any of the candidates specifically, only “let’s get anyone else in there other than Bush”. But, I started watching the debates and reading up on all the candidates. In a perfect, ideal world, we wouldn’t be voting for a person because of their “Party” and friends, we would be voting for that individual who has a track record of crossing those very lines and trying to get the important things we all want in life: health, wealth, harmony and happiness, regardless of, gasp, party affiliation. Quite quickly, I realized Senator Clinton was head and shoulders above Obama and the others, on every issue, on judgment, character and certainly experience. She frankly blew me away with her command of the issues. I found myself picking the person that has a track record of what I am looking for. That person is Senator Clinton. She has worked hard and diligently for all Americans, and spent years (35) building strong relationships because she has a passionate vision of what America can be. She became MY candidate. “Hill-R-We”, became my mantra.

When I read that the "party leaders were tired" of the Clinton campaign bringing up the FL & MI votes for the past few weeks, I thought: well, E-X-C-U-S-E ME! I am tired of not having a say in a Presidential election, I am tired of not having my vote count, I am tired of no insurance, I am tired of little business in a struggling economy, and I am REALLY tired of some out-of-touch, well-paid, Washington fatcats deciding they know more than their constituents! The straw that broke this voter’s back was the way the DNC mishandled the FL and MI votes. That is NOT democracy, NOT the values of the Democratic Party and certainly NOT my values! They are clueless if they think we will act like lemmings and "fall in line".

Blame abounds: The media has mounted the most biased, blatant one-sided campaign for Obama that frankly reeks of more than just voter suppression. What happened to journalistic integrity? What happened to objective reporting and let the voters decide? The misogynistic, gender bias that exists in this country is deplorable (from pundits, party leaders, the media) and demanding Senator Clinton give in to the DNC and “follow their lead”, by backing Obama even after she won the popular vote, sends a message that it is Ok to trash talk a leading woman politician, to belittle her accomplishments as if she were “just someone’s wife”, and tells every man out there to pile it on, to ignore and expect every woman to “get in line” like a good girl, for the betterment of society. Even if that very woman is the most accomplished candidate out there, or the most qualified professional for the job. What kind of message is that to send to our mothers, sisters, daughters, and sons?

The MOST important point is this: This primary race has revealed a very flawed, twisted system and I for one am happily going back to my long-term Independent status, since Senator Clinton is not the nominee. I would love nothing more than for Hillary to run as an Independent candidate with 18+ million supporters strong. The Democratic Party is gone in my eyes. They have turned their back on the voters, on Senator Clinton, and on all that is good in this country. Manipulating the media, the voters, and the very “democratic” process itself has exposed our system as nothing better than any other country with flawed elections, tampering and propaganda. Shame on America, Shame on the Democrats, Shame on you DNC.

Our vote for her or McCain is based on the fact that this is about who I beleive can run this country, not run it into the ground. NOBama, noway!

Women = write-in vote... start a new party now!!! Be the change that you need! Revolution... change the world! Mobilize now!

Clinton supporters are often assumed to be devoid of intelligence. There are very strategic differences between the policies of Clinton and Obama even though the media chose to proclaim them as a hair apart. I will explain from a more issue based stance why McCain is a more logical choice and one NOT based in disappointment or denial?

1. Obama's economic policies of raising and lowering taxes on certain segments of the lower/middle and upper classes are inflationary in a time period where our economy is bordering on recession. His policies will heavily influence an already unstable stock market.

2. Tax increases on business leave little room for economic growth and are counter encouraging home-based (made in US) production.

3. Obama's health care plan is bottom to top where children are covered and the adult care givers receive little benefit. How does one guarantee that breaks will be spent on insurance in light of rising gas & food prices? Giving breaks to small business to insure its employees will NOT guarantee that monies will be expended on them vs. retained earnings put back into the business.

4. He has shown consistent lack of knowledge on sensitive international relationships especially between Israel and Palestine. He is clueless in the Afghan war zone. Rice has pulled off something today with N. Korea that shows you just can't talk but need to use effective diplomatic tools to make headway with terrorist nations.

5. From a legislative record Obama has nothing to show except some misquotes on bills that were not his as proof he has done something to defend the rights of women, protect workers in trade or national security. Moreover, one can only ASSUME where he will go on these issues as we hear one thing and his camp says another? McCain on the other hand has much to show and is willing to do what he feels is right vs. a party line. Roe vs. Wade could have been overthrown many times in a Republican climate but has not when the votes were there?
6. Obama has shown increased tendency to change his positions not because of "new knowledge" on the subject but due to what he will gain for his own political positioning--use of public campaign monies is one example. That represents the wishes of a Democratic Party that has put money over principle.

7. With respect to the War in Iraq, Obama will have to change his position if anyone is listening to Israel right now with respect to its relationship with Iran. Obama is playing the "Get Out" card without examination of current circumstances.

8. A President should be a person who shows above average character and strength as he or she represents the core values of the US. Obama has not shown such character either in his approach during the primary, nor in how he chose to raise in political power to the position he now holds. Where are the American values in this man beyond misstatements about having mid-west ties that he has never known and wearing a lapel pin when it became politically expedient? Yet, in Virginia we see a commercial that tells about his old fashioned, come from the bottom life, when all his associations through his 40+ years say otherwise?

From an logical point of view when given the choice between McCain vs. Obama + A Democratic Party that saw $$$ signs in his fund raising capability, there is one sensible thing to do if you desire to exercise a right that doesn't seem to be a right any more--vote, and vote McCain.

If women vote for Obama, what does society at large take as a lesson from this campaign? How can women complain about mistreatment and then turn around and vote for Obama and effectively the Democratic Party?

The reality is that Obama, the Democratic Party officials and the DNC remained perfectly silent as the message about the value of women in politics and government was broadcast daily by the media. How can we expect them to care about what happens to women's bodies and whether or not they bring home equal pay when the party and Obama don't even value women enough to speak out against the blatant and repeated attacks against women that occurred in the media every day during this election?

Tucker Carlson says it best, why should anyone be disappointed that women aren't equally represented in government when the country is composed of 52% women and women are the ones who are most likely to vote? At this point, whose fault is it that women aren't represented fairly? It's not men, it's women. Were there major barriers in the past? Yes, no doubt. Are there still barriers? Yes, no doubt. Yet, if women won't do anything about it, then why should we expect men to do so? I hate to even cite him because of how evil he was toward Hillary during the election, but Michael Moore references this concept in his book Stupid White Men. Women choose to be the minority.
HRC supporters are probably the most inclined to advocate for women's equality and yet, after essentially being drug over the coals for the last 16 months, they are going to get right on board with the Democratic Party like good girls should? How can we blame the women who don't believe they deserve equal rights when the ones that do are willing to acquiesce following the same old threats of Roe v. Wade.

It's like a domestic violence relationship-the woman gets beat up, but in the end stays because she doesn't have her own apartment and she relies so heavily on her significant other's income that in order for her to leave, she'd have to suffer for a while. Yet, despite having to suffer in the short term, in the long term, she has finally gained her independence from the abuse. Not to mention, because she now has more self esteem and has been empowered by her own decision to take her independence, she's more likely to make even greater strides in her life-ones that she never imagined possible before leaving the abusive relationship. I guess women should be extremely sympathetic as to why women stay in abusive relationships. Women should also not be surprised that homicide is the number one cause of death for pregnant women.
Women will never be respected until they get over the Roe v. Wade carrot that hangs over their heads in EVERY SINGLE election. It's paralyzed them. Maybe empowering women would help those young people make better choices about having sex and getting pregnant. Maybe empowering women would make perpetrators less inclined to view them as an easy target for things like rape and molestation. Maybe in the end, women would not only succeed further than ever expected, but as a result, Roe v. Wade would become less and less of an issue. Instead of focusing so much on the result of the problem, maybe we should focus more on eliminating the problem in the first place.

Roe v. Wade isn't going anywhere and at this point, neither is the progression of women.

Don't think it matters, this video will remind you why it does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IrhRSwF9U&feature=related

I have been a lifelong Democrat and have countless reasons why I will not vote for Obama. Here's my (partial) list:

1. He has scant experience for this most awesome job of POTUS.

2. He claims to be an outsider, as if that in and of itself is something necessary or good. The President of the United States needs to be deserving of the job and able do the job in an excellent fashion.

3. He has no history of being a “uniter”. His voting records reveal a pattern of digging in or not voting.

4. He flip flops on issues as is politically convenient.

5. He obscures the truth, minimizes relationships, and blatantly lies. He either claims innocence or minimizes relationships with questionable characters, including Wright and Khalidi, to name a couple.

6. He has a history of developing relationships with individuals who express through their words and actions profoundly anti-American sentiments, including Bill Ayers, a terrorist who built bombs that killed fellow Americans and who, to this day, remains unrepentant.

7. He routinely expresses a confused understanding of history, including his own personal history, noting that he is the product of the march on Selma, despite the fact that he was born 4 years prior to the march.

8. He holds himself above the fray, undeserving of scrutiny, despite applying for the job of the highest office in the country.

9. He is willing to sit down with leaders of enemy nations, a dangerously naive and/or stupid notion.

10. The press and the DNC anointed him. They did this despite Hillary Clinton winning key Democratic states, being far outspent by Obama, and bucking a biased media. They did this in back room deals regarding Florida and Michigan and by tripping over themselves so as not to appear in the least bit racist, while misogyny was perfectly acceptable.

How much lower can we set the bar?

Between now and November I have no doubt my resolve will remain strong, if not further strengthened as I watch Obama continue to prove what a gutless wonder he is.

I cannot imagine a Democrat and/or Hillary supporter being so dissappointed with Obama's nomination that they would rather McCain win (or throw their vote away). Have they been out of the country for the last 8 years? I can respect others decisions but we must keep history in mind for voting for the future.

I wanted Hillary, but, in reality there is no candidate that is running that can and will make the changes that we need to protect life on earth! They all fall short into the gamut of money controls... We need to look at every issue and make changes based on the common good, not based on corporate profit margins or standards controlled by special interests groups. Our old ways need to fade. We need sustainable technologies that do not harm us or the environment. All of our efforts should be spent on new ways to promote life! No company should be allowed to profit from a product that has proved to be harmful to life. Why would we allow such evil entities to profit from our deaths... Yet our industries are rampant with death promoting residuals! What the hell is wrong with us? I don't know who I can vote for... I might do a write-in vote and vote for JanforGore... She seems to know more than any of our politicians regarding the safety of our planet!