Our Founding Fathers On Liberty and Tyranny

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose."

Janis Joplin

I feel like I have nothing left to loose if I have no planetary home worth living on to look forward to. Freedom is a responsibility that must be taken seriously and exercised regularly or we will loose it.

Hawkmang: I long for the say when liberty is once again as cherished as the cell phone and ipod.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this country it will be under the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
James Madison

How prescient to the point of being scary.

jubal: Thanks so much. I find you to be someone of infinite wisdom and appreciate your friendship here very much. I come from a long line of strong women as well. My grandmother birthed thirteen children watching half of them die at young ages, two tragically, and my mom fought cancer for much of her adult life and never gave into it until it ravaged her entire body and she couldn't fight it any longer. She was a woman of such strength and grace who taught me so much about inner strength even though I lost her at a young age. My best regards to your mother, may she find her way back. And yes, Laura Linney was inspirational as Abigail Adams. I'm hoping HBO will show John Adams again this weekend.

Jan: How right you are. Women did have a strong persuasion with their husbands, even though they personally didn't have the political power they do today.

I was inspired by Laura Linney in her portrayal of Adam's wife, she portrayed a woman worth learning from.

I have always loved strong women, I admire them. My grandmother was a very strong woman giving birth to ten children and raising several grandchildren. She died at 101. She was the most loving and kind and strong person I ever knew. Second would have to be my aunt who is no 82. She started a war in Ecuador with her poetry and essays that were read over the radio down there back in the late 80's. She was a revolutionary woman when women were not allowed to even go to University in her country. She wrote several books and hundreds of poems.

Another very strong woman was my mother, although she got lost somewhere a while back, but I hope she finds herself once again.

But back to you, you Jan are such a prolific woman, I admire you too. You feel like family to me.

Jubal: I am a Revolutionary...always have been, always will be. Kind of wish I had lived back then even though it was a harder life. I would have been a great friend to Abigail Adams. She was truly one of America's greatest citizens as well. It wasn't just the men who shaped this country. ;-).

Yes, they were prescient as well. They knew human nature and that sooner or later with progress would come the greater struggle to keep our Republic.

I know that they didn't have to worry about sound bites, spin control, and opinion polls. But let's admit it ,that this is prophetically spooky. Over two hundred and fifty years later their words are still relevent. I'll speculate that we are not hearing words from our modern era politicians that will ring as true in another another two hundred and fifty years. Thank you Jan. for putting us back on point.

Jan this is hot stuff. Revolutionary thought in this empire of lies we live in. Thanks so much for reminding us about the true meaning of the 4th of July and what a precious gift of freedom we have from our forefathers.

Damn the shadows that are eating away our freedom, the corporate shadows who are building their empire of lies; their house of cards. May it all tumble to the ground and pronto.

Thanks, Jan -- those guys are still inspiring, even to this day.

Its sad how far we have strayed from the original course of freedom and democracy.
Now we only have the freedom to buy what we want.

Now let's see how many politicians come out tomorrow including the "candidates" to give their phony speeches about freedom and Democracy. This as they continue to support Bush 's policies by voting for his FISA bills, and continue to bow down to corporate power over the people. Personally, they all make me ill with their photo op pretend patriotism.