News and Politics | July 08, 2008 | 35 comments

Innocent passenger held at gunpoint by armed police

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Armed police forced an innocent commuter to the ground and frogmarched him into a toilet cubicle, where his backpack was searched, before taking into custody... only to realise they had the wrong man.

Police have since apologised to the 21-year-old, who had traveled from Southampton to Bournemouth station, where the incident took place, and have allocated him a "dedicated family liaison officer" to help him get over the ordeal.

Witnesses said the incident "had the hallmarks of the case of Jean Charles de Menezes" - the innocent Brazilian shot dead by armed police on the London Underground in 2005.

Witness Dave Rogers said: 'The police told him to get on the ground and they pulled out their weapons. They then got him up quite slowly – he looked like was in a state of shock. He didn't put up a fight and hardly said anything.'
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35 comments // Innocent passenger held at gunpoint by armed police

  • cheakywillie
  • sherinas
    • 0
      sherinas  
    • say it was the right guy...
      rather be safe then sorry.
      and someones up here talking about no allowance for errors..
      go through out your day and your job seeing how many errors you make.
      no ones perfect.. its only human.

    • 3 years ago
  • frenchy_mec
    • 0
      frenchy_mec  
    • i was once stop by the cop i told him he got the wrong dude he started asking me how many times i've been to jail like every black men has been in jail and he was black moi je baisse l'etat nique les keufs sur les keufs qu'on crache

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
  • pressrecord
  • richjm
    • 0
      richjm  
    • pressrecord:

      Generally they don't. Your everyday normal police who walk the beat don't carry guns but we do have armed police in places like airports and on standby for situations involving weapons etc.

      Your average police here carry a baton and spray but no guns.

    • 3 years ago
  • CicatrizJCP
    • 0
      CicatrizJCP  
    • "Beautiful cartoon troopers
      Swallow brutal futility with a teaspoon full of sugar
      I rock ready aim fire, while y'all rock ready fire aim
      Then blame the stationary target WHILE the prey escapes the frame
      Merit badge marksman, OR poacher, it's all the same
      So I lay across the woods perpendicular to the grain"

    • 3 years ago
  • markyboi
  • CroatianPimp
  • pissedoffinarkansas
  • UWAZell
    • 0
      UWAZell  
    • "He didn't put up a fight or say anything." That is the mark of an intelligent person and an attorney's wet dream. This is going to make a great case, one mind you which I doubt will ever see a Court room because the police department will settle and request that he not discuss the situation with the media.

      Good on the bloke.

    • 3 years ago
  • rabidlemur
  • tanyetta
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      tanyetta  
    • To me there is no room for ERROR. Okay the police were doing their job. I still remember the old lady being shot dead in Atlanta at her house because the Police were doing their JOB!! The police are suppose to protect and serve, getting the wrong guy in my opinion is far from protecting and serving. You don't want to fear the police, so when the police got the wrong guy that put more fear out there for the public. It is telling the people we don't give a flying flip if you are an innocent bystander or not, If we think you did it then you DID IT! That makes every innocent person a criminal for no particular reason. But at the end of the day they get to apologize which will help with my shock of being an innocent criminal

    • 3 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • tanyetta
    • 0
      tanyetta  
    • tanyetta:

      Robo Cops would be great!! I never claimed anything you claimed it. I said there is no room for error which means try your best to make no errors and they should have that in their minds all the time. It is ridiculous that you can pinpoint one thing I said and get it wrong and not even read everything, and J_Jammer how did you conclude that I mean no one should care. I want to know your reasoning.

    • 3 years ago
  • squidteeth
    • 0
      squidteeth  
    • tanyetta:

      "there's no room for error" and "try your best not to make a mistake" are two TOTALLY different things.

      They thought they had the bad guy, so they treated this guy like he was the bad guy and handled it accordingly. When you're a cop, and somebody says, "thats him, he's dangerous, arrest him" you do it, because that's your job.

      Error on the side of caution and all that.

      When they realized he wasn't the guy, they let him go, said they were sorry, and made sure he had somebody with him to make sure he was ok.
      Error... and correction.

    • 3 years ago
  • merasyad
  • merasyad
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      merasyad  
    • merasyad:

      Colonial_Zombie,

      How do you know that I haven't, or someone I know, or someone I know who knows somebody hasn't been unlawfully harassed by a policeman or policewoman?

      This is not propaganda, this is called standing up to police brutality. You and I don't live in a totalitarian society, and we certainly have the right to stand up for our rights.

      I totally appreciate what the police force does for the society, but I'm not going to sit back and keep quiet when an incident such as the one mentioned in this article happens.

      A bully is a bully, whether he/she wears a uniform or not.

      I wonder how you would feel if you were in the victim's shoes!

    • 3 years ago
  • subversivelyhere
  • AreOh
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      AreOh  
    • Unfortunately, this seems to happening more and more. Still, policing is not an exact science. I would be more interested to know why he felt the need to pull his gun on the person. I don't see anywhere saying the suspect had a weapon of some sort, which would justify the use of such a drastic tactic. I would agree that we shouldn't over-react when we read stories such as this because the circumstances may not be fully revealed, but I don't feel police who feel the need to engage in this overly aggressive behavior should be given a free pass. It is good he apologized for the incident. He realizes he made a mistake and is attempting to make amends. That's more than I can say more most police. And is it just me, or do these incidents always seem to happen to minorities? Ha, that could be a discussion within itself.

    • 3 years ago
  • Ricky84
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      Ricky84  
    • AreOh:

      “The arrest happened after Dorset police was contacted by Hampshire Constabulary following an alleged armed incident in Basingstoke and a man being identified by a British Transport Police officer on a train travelling into Dorset.

    • 3 years ago
  • AreOh
    • 0
      AreOh  
    • AreOh:

      Thanks Rick. I must have missed that detail. Ha, I guess it was one of those 'Black male, medium build, between 5' and 7' feet tall with short hair' descriptions.

    • 3 years ago
  • Ricky84
    • 0
      Ricky84  
    • AreOh:

      LOL. Yeah you got that right. You can fight for equality all you want but if you don't socialize with those of another race then they're all going to look the same to you.

    • 3 years ago
  • huffamoose2k
  • Ricky84
    • 0
      Ricky84  
    • I don’t understand why people buy into this stuff. Seriously how do you expect a cop to detain a supposed armed robber? Like it or not that’s a situation where he is required to draw his gun.

      The only similarity between this situation and the De Menezes incident is that cops drew their guns. If I remember correctly the officers who attacked De Menezes were plain clothed and failed to identify themselves. On the other hand you can clearly tell that’s a police officer in the picture.

      Its unfortunate this individual freaked out when detained. Then again how do you expect him to act given he lives in a country where handguns are demonized by the government?

    • 3 years ago
  • J_Jammer
    • 0
      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • Police do their jobs, people whine.

      They don't, people whine.

      I suggest them not bother and let the bad guys take over.

      mistakes happen. So what. Yes I'd be mad it if happened to me but they apologized and what more do you want them to do? I'd rather them make mistakes while doing their job than miss one person while not doing their job.

      And before the alarmist run around the corner shouting the sky is falling, I am not stating that a police state is an awesome idea. I am stating that protection does come at a price for those that are being protected. It's a matter of what are you willing to sacrifice for such protection and what are you willing to lose to not have it at all?

    • 3 years ago
  • Mista_G
  • squidteeth
    • 0
      squidteeth  
    • J_Jammer:

      I agree.
      What happened to this poor guy would be really scary. I'd prolly piss myself and be really upset if I were him.

      But it was just a mistake, nobody got hurt (this time), and they did say sorry.

      WWwwwaddaya' gonna do? They were just doing their job.

    • 3 years ago
  • phillyharper
  • purplefox
    • 0
      purplefox  
    • this is scary - and the officer didn't look like a normal Metropolitan Police officer either.. I guess it's hard to know whether or not they might've got a tip-off or special intelligence, though it must've been a terrifying ordeal for the guy.

      I think I'll leave my rucksack at home...

    • 3 years ago
  • Midnight_DevilX
  • phillyharper
    • 0
      phillyharper  
    • This is really shocking. I hoped we had seen the last of this when De Menzes was shot, but evidently the culture of fear still has our Police force by the throat.

      If they can get this wrong, then they can also throw the wrong guy in jail for 42 days.

    • 3 years ago
  • admod
    • 0
      admod  
    • if he,you or,myself.
      was kept in jail for 42 days.

      it wouldnt be a case of the wrong person.

      you would sign any statement..

      if you could still write.?

      an besides. the cops cant stop graffiti on the trains.
      so what makes you think they can stop bombers.

    • 3 years ago
  • dandrews1969
    • 0
      dandrews1969  
    • And to think they could have kept him in jail for 42 days without charges, then realized they had the wrong guy. Maybe he got off lucky.

      Another case of the UK police state gone wrong.

    • 3 years ago
  • markyboi
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