Italy to fingerprint all to avoid discrimination

I guess they really want those gypsys' fingerprints.

I wonder if they're going to arrest everybody to avoid discrimination, too.

If you have ever crossed the US border, the US and EU already have your fingerprint.

I do not think it is wrong they store this data. If you do no harm then you will not have a single issue.

Some logic has to be used when using biometrics. (You shouldn't judge someone from Canada, about a murder in Italy and you have proof this person has never been in Italy) etc...

They have my finger prints, reluctantly

Which is it?
Avoiding discrimination or embracing assimilation?

Enormous group acceptance or simply across-the-board government interference? We are all suspect, but so are the powers that be.

That's what they should do in Iraq plus something like a social security number to weed out the scum. If they refuse they have something to hide.

i accidentally deleted my own comment , so here goes again - i'm not anti-gypsy , in principle , but having been robbed by them several times and never having been shown they aren't a public nuisance anywhere they happen to be ( not just in italy ) , i find it difficult to have much bleeding heart sympathy for them .
personally , they should just have their own little country , maybe in afghanistan , and those in the int'l community who want to help out should set them up .

This is just like the Communist concept, beautiful in theory and wretched in execution.
Blame it on human nature.

No one organisation should so much information about everybody

No way.
Isnt that illegal?

We see what you did there Italy... you still get your desired end result... Way to be fascist, racist douchebags...

I thought they kept pennies in circulation because a nickel would be a waste to put on a railroad track right before the train passes. Plus, what would we do with all the souvenir machines that squash our pennies and put pretty imprints on 'em?

Have you ever used a penny? Then the U.S. gov't has your fingerprints... Why do you think they keep them in circulation?

Not only would I not allow this to take place, if an officer came to my door to "take me in" because I haven't been fingerprinted, he better bring some fucking back-up, because as soon as something like that gets proposed in the USA, I'll be stockpiling the ammunition and building an artillery even Charlton Heston would be proud of.

I don't condone violence, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna be a sitting duck and then wait for some peace loving group to peacefully protest until I'm released for resisting.

I'm starting to think that "peaceful" demonstrations and protest gets a "bone" thrown at you, but it doesn't get the message through to the corrupt assholes running things. They pacify us with the waving of a pen, promises of change, and hands extended for a shake.

In the end they revert right back to their old ways once everyone has forgotten about their ugly past. I'm not gonna be a martyr for my cause, I'm gonna be the fucking horns on the "bull of change"!

No good.

wouldn't it be easier to demand none of its citizens be fingerprinted to defuse widespread criticism?

Mussolini lives.

What's strange is that anyone assumes that this actually might stop crime in any way. In fact, its just another way of intimidating a country's citizens.

We in the United Kingdom are not surprised by the Italian intent fingerprint the complete population to circmuvent human rights legislation in order to fingerprint ethnic minorites. I can understand the Italian lack of fear of their incompetent authorities, they couldn't catch a comotose mouse.
Italians have been immigrants to the United Kingdom since the 19th c. Would thy like their relatives in Britain to be fingerprinted?
That is why we are sceptical about European Union integration. The vast majority of countries within the EU have been either Nazi, or Fascist, in my lifeitme, and the Italians are the most likely to revert to that scenario.
Actions which should have seen European intervention to prevent atrocities in former Eastern Bloc countries saw Britain and the United States as the main protagonists, the rest of Europe hid behind non -interventionist policies.
This is mirrored in Afghanistan.
Italy is seen as the ' sick man' of Europe, with virtually a government a year since the Second World War, and a Prime Minister who is corrupt but is still voted in by the population. It seems that Benito Mussolini still lives in the hearts of the Italians in the 21st century. You Italians should bow your heads in shame for what you are.

Now the rest of Italy will see how the Italian Gypsies feel having their basic human rights taken away.

If the American government adopted a similar policy, it wouldn't sit well with me. I just don't trust big brother enough to let them have my fingerprints.

This is a very sketchy thing.

They want to have the fingerprints they want and if they have to do everyone to get what it is they want, then by golly they're gonna do it.

On the one hand I see how this has benefits. They will have the ability to scan through fingerprints to find matches should they lift any at a crime scene.

But I don't think I'd feel comfortable being labeled a suspect to future crimes when I have not been in trouble with the law before.

Laws are only created for those that don't follow them. Those that do well don't need laws to tell them how to go about being a productive citizen, they just do it.

Those that break the laws think they are above the law and therefore break the law knowingly so it really didn't prevent crime it only allows them to be punished should they get caught.

Bad idea. I have a bad feeling about what this domino has started.